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  • BroMikey
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    Hey Dave I thought you were sound asleep, keep the evolution going on modified zero's and super-zero's that no one has ever seen or heard of. My bat-hat is more tangible evidence than heresy, you can see my Bat-hat.

    The mod motor burns out brushes, that was the one flaw pointed out by the inventor so go ahead build it instead. COP 1 was what the inventor said, not 8.6. Now what was your point?

    You have mod mtr #2? That's special but again no actual record just somebody said?

    BTW//All those circuits I posted from 2018 were approved by you at the time. I still have the basic boosters and inverters hooked up. I need to go thru a pile of converters to see which one works as a motor and a generator.

    So the circuit is 99.9% so 95% of all the generated can be sent back to the run batt 2v higher and 80% goes to batt 3. That's enough and then some.

    Did bye get it working?

    Dave you need to show something. Isolated or non-isolated converters? You probably don't know, you burnt up 30 converters and then found a good one right? Anyway.
    Last edited by BroMikey; 04-10-2022, 06:51 AM.

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  • Turion
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    You just don't pay attention. You read what you want to read instead of what is actually written. The Zero force motor works great. The MODIFIED Zero Force Motor that we called the Superpole motor ALSO works great. But each has LIMITATIONS. When you are working to achieve a specific goal, you use the tool that best achieves your goal.

    Matt's "simple motor" is NOT the "Matt modified razor scooter motor." They are two far, far different things. Each was built for a specific purpose. And the "simple motor" was designed to produce large amounts of magnetic flux which means large amounts of CEMF. The large amounts of flux are used to create EXTREME torque, while the CEMF, along with the coil collapse, is channeled to produce OUTPUT POWER. I believe more output power than the Lindemann attraction motor because the Lindemann motor HAS NO CEMF and all you can recover is the coil collapse.

    I don't need a Bat-Hat. My circuits produce.

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  • BroMikey
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    People say I'm bats for this latest design

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  • BroMikey
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    I guess all these old motor has inspired Bob F. The zero motor must have been a dead end so he is hard up for a scooter motor that burns brushes and over heats at 1.5amp

    How did you all like "The 3Bat-Hat"? It's for batty circuit builders that never seem to produce.

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  • Turion
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    The GOAL is to build a circuit that runs the load on the positives so you can not only generate power, but RECOVER some of the power you used. The circuit below was designed so that you run off one capacitor (battery) while filling the opposite capacitor (battery)with power, which allows THAT circuit to run and fill the capacitor on the PRIMARY circuit. Once it is up and running, each side supplies the opposing circuit with power. The key is that RECOVERED power + generated power from EACH CIRCUIT must exceed the power actually expended to run each PULSE motor.

    We like Matt's simple motor for this because of the pulses it sends to the second capacitor (battery) combination. When trying to build a device that produces some excess power while running off a battery, you are beating your head against a wall to some extent. A battery takes MUCH more to charge back up than the power you have taken out of it. If you have doubts of that, charge a battery to full, attach a kilowatt meter to it and run it down. Then attach the kilowatt meter to the wall and run your battery charger to charge the battery back up. Want to guess how may times the energy it takes to overcome the battery resistance to charge to actually charge that battery back up? The schematic I have shown allows you to run "over the top" of the batteries. You are really only running on battery power to get started IF your generator is producing adequate power.

    I have been working on a solid state version of this for a while now, which is why working on the generator holds so little interest for me.

    As to the generator... three small rotors will be here on the 18th so I can test my original magnets, the 3/4 x 3/4 magnets and 3/4 x 1" magnets to compare power output and it will give me an idea of what to do with my machine as we move forward.

    And as for the "toy" circuit that you don't like bro, I have a new rotor on the way for that one with some generator coils so I can build something actually worth talking about.

    Also, Bob French has a working replication of the Matt "simple motor", and he says he is happier with it than with ANY motor he has EVER built, which would be most of the things on the internet with the exception of the Lindemann attraction motor. We're having larger versions of that motor built with aluminum rotors, high speed bearings, and some larger magnets.

    So lots of things in progress.

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  • BroMikey
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    This guy is book smart too. I have posted part 1 up until now. See part 2 five requirements

    COP 1.5




    Last edited by BroMikey; 04-10-2022, 01:46 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    This is my 3 battery hat

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post

    Adding a rotor to that motor with a couple of Lenz free generator coils would certainly improve results


    This has a Thane generator

    Last edited by BroMikey; 04-09-2022, 10:26 PM.

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  • Turion
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    NONE of these circuits (except MAYBE the last one) are OU. They will give you extended run times. Until you incorporate a source of ENERGY GENERATION into the system, that is the best you will get. The last circuit shows the motor turning a generator. I have never wired anything the way it is wired in the last circuit, so I have no idea what the results would be, but all the components needed are there. ALL I showed as a "One battery circuit" is below, and it was just to show a simple electrical loop. It is NOT OU. It was simply shared to show that electricity can be run in a circle back to the source. The output of the boost module needs to be such that the voltage hitting the battery is two volts over its standing voltage. Results are ENTIRELY dependent on the efficiency of the boost module. Adding a rotor to that motor with a couple of Lenz free generator coils would certainly improve results, since in the circuit I show below there is NO SOURCE of energy generation. It wasn't shared as an OU circuit. But if a rotor and coils ARE added, their output needs to be rectified, bucked down, and run THROUGH a load back to the primary battery, hitting the battery at two volts over standing voltage. That would be the simplest Mechanical COP>1 system I know of that would actually work. Its would depend on the TYPE of motor used (pulse motor) the coils wound, and the efficiency of the buck and boost modules.



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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    You gotta have some diodes in there somewhere to control direction of current flow. This drawing did not come from ME.
    These circuits are the best I could do with the partial information. Not sure what they do.

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  • Turion
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    You gotta have some diodes in there somewhere to control direction of current flow. This drawing did not come from ME.
    Last edited by Turion; 04-09-2022, 08:46 AM.

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