Motor Generators

[Turion]

alexelectric,

The patent that covers magnetic neutralization as well as Tesla’s patent on parallel windings to increase coil capacitance have long expired and the info is part of the public domain. Plus I have released it all here. That pretty much leaves it wide open for anyone to use the information any way they like.

[Sawt2]

Pendulum.

Hey guys. Dave's generator has always been interesting, but it keeps getting better by the day.

Thanks for posting that video with the transmission of power, BroMikey...going the right direction.

Here's a video of my tiny pendulum: https://youtu.be/8Ex82ljKv7w

It's charging the same battery from before (105Ah marine battery, 500CCA, 12v) and is drawing 200mA of 37-38v off the open voltage of 24v solar. The device will sit in the palm of your hand. The coil is less than an inch in diameter and 1.5 inches tall and has a 24AWG for the power wire and a 26AWG for the trigger wire. Anything close will work fine. Skinnier wire draws less amps.

The circuit is a standard Bedini SSG. I added a million ohm resistor to an LED put them in parallel with the base resistance to act as an OFF/ON indicator. It uses nothing and changes nothing...just indicates that the trigger is ON.

As I am posting this, the battery is over 13.20v (having charged for less than 6 hours starting at 12.47v) and being charged radiantly, without amperage to speak of. This is good for the battery and can be done with very small solar panels (two 12v panels in series, mine are 15W each).

Take care,

Bob

That very cool Bob

[BobFrench]

Pendulum.

Hey guys. Dave's generator has always been interesting, but it keeps getting better by the day.

Thanks for posting that video with the transmission of power, BroMikey...going the right direction.

Here's a video of my tiny pendulum: https://youtu.be/8Ex82ljKv7w

It's charging the same battery from before (105Ah marine battery, 500CCA, 12v) and is drawing 200mA of 37-38v off the open voltage of 24v solar. The device will sit in the palm of your hand. The coil is less than an inch in diameter and 1.5 inches tall and has a 24AWG for the power wire and a 26AWG for the trigger wire. Anything close will work fine. Skinnier wire draws less amps.

The circuit is a standard Bedini SSG. I added a million ohm resistor to an LED put them in parallel with the base resistance to act as an OFF/ON indicator. It uses nothing and changes nothing...just indicates that the trigger is ON.

As I am posting this, the battery is over 13.20v (having charged for less than 6 hours starting at 12.47v) and being charged radiantly, without amperage to speak of. This is good for the battery and can be done with very small solar panels (two 12v panels in series, mine are 15W each).

Take care,

Bob

[alexelectric]

Good, you're going to have a meeting with an engine manufacturer.

I want to comment on an opinion, you should register your project, an author's registry, to protect your project so that some company believes itself rights and can patent it and want to take advantage of it, it is already known as consortiums, it is an opinion, value it is your decision.

Although here in this forum there are records of your work is a background that validates you as the author of the project, free.

Thank you for what you will share later, the videos and information.

I continue with the simple project, and I wait for the construction of 12 magnets, since you can give us more details.

Thanks Turion, you studied and put into practice a research of Tesla, on the capacitance in the coils and how to take advantage of its effect.

[Turion]

I am taking videos step by step as I put this machine back together. After the conference I will make sure all those videos are available in order so that anyone who want to can see the steps in replicating this thing.

I heard from my machinist this afternoon. He is doing a BUNCH of work on the machine he has that I did not know about until today. It includes truing up the rotor so that the air gap between rotor and magnet is reduced. I know from experience that the tighter the air gap, the greater the output of the coils, so I am looking forward to the testing. He is also moving the bearing holder closer to the coil holder so there is less chance of wobble in the shaft.

I will be meeting with the owner of a motor manufacturing company who is interested in manufacturing the generators to be run by his motors. We will see what happens with that. Could be interesting, since it is not possible to paten this because I have open sourced everything.

[alexelectric]

Of course we believe you Dave, although we are few.
I comment on my experience, when I already had a motor, magnet disk 6, and a coil, the attraction of the coil core to the magnet is tremendous, I could not move the rotor easily, the motor did not start it, I needed it to give it a push .

Install the magnet that would prevent dragging, and with this installed I could move the rotor easily, the engine started without help.

Well whoever doubts it, just to test it, put the rotor with the inductor magnets, and the reel only with the core (so that it does not work so much in winding), do not put the drag suppression magnet and it will be given count, then put the magnetic drag suppression magnet, and you will see the difference.

Dave has given examples and described his project with all patience, and he repeats how many times he has been asked for information, he has learned a lot, Dave has spent many hours of work and tests, it is not easy to be installing and desistling, rewinding reels, estimate and test results, all the valuable information you have obtained from the threads of the reels and their effects has a lot of value.

I simply that I am doing a replica of Dave's project, simple and practical, has taken me hours to assemble and that I have the data that Dave has provided.

For the recognition of Dave's work, I express my admiration and respect for the kindness of sharing.

[BroMikey]

My machinist has yet to call me

12 and 14 amps, I am going to call that good enough

since 80% of THAT can be recovered anyway.

I know nobody believes THAT either,

Need to spend the morning on my house remodel project. Fun times.

I believe you Dave. Someday down the road you will have succeeded with a practical motor gen, well not just a motor generator, it is much more than the standard claims for motor generator at around 1:1 cop and sheet like that. And if others get 1:2 cop they think they have the holy grail and the world by the neck.

Let me remind everyone that anything we can think of has already been done inside the military tech. Military tech is 100 years into the future so you can bet your booty that THEY see the Tesla patents.

Dave and a few others going public will force the hand to release new tech that has been there for decades.

Other nations are depending on it first.

[alexelectric]

Dave comments
I know nobody believes that either, but I know what I know

Whoever does not believe it, do so to realize that it works.
Of course, if you put more weight on a moving object you will need more force to move it.
But in the case of the magnetic retention of the coil core, it is suppressed and nullified with the magnets that prevent dragging, that if it works within an operating range, this is as if you take the brake off a car at a given acceleration , the car will move more.

Now, if you put more weight on the rotor, the engine that moves it will need more power.
It's a matter of doing it and trying it, it's more than believing,
I already made it simple and it works.

around here we keep moving slowly but surely

[Turion]

My machinist has yet to call me with the results of trying to get the amp draw down to the 12 amps of my original build, but having thought about it for a couple weeks now, I am not sure how close he is going to be able to get. The rotor he is currently using is heavier than my original rotor so it may require more amps to turn it. It’s weight is almost double. That increased weight is because the magnets are twice as thick, but they SHOULD also put out more power than I have claimed because of it. So if he can get it down to anywhere between 12 and 14 amps, I am going to call that good enough and get on with the testing. It’s really the output that matters and I will live with a couple hundred watts more input than I claimed, since 80% of THAT can be recovered anyway. I know nobody believes THAT either, but I know what I know. If I haven’t heard from him by this evening I’ll call for an update. As for what I am putting back together, I’ll be working on it later today. Need to spend the morning on my house remodel project. Fun times.

[Turion]

If they pull my drivers license for six months like they did LAST time, I won’t be happy. It makes my life very complicated.

[BroMikey]

You two keep trying to kill yourselves and there won’t be anybody left to replicate this thing.

My machinist called yesterday. He got the parts made and is putting it all back together to see if he can get the amp draw down. If so, I will go down sometime in the next week or so to finish testing. Working on getting one of mine back together also.

I hope you feel up to it after your last set back.

[Turion]

You two keep trying to kill yourselves and there won’t be anybody left to replicate this thing.

My machinist called yesterday. He got the parts made and is putting it all back together to see if he can get the amp draw down. If so, I will go down sometime in the next week or so to finish testing. Working on getting one of mine back together also.

[BroMikey]

You think that is bad I accidentally bumped my coil that runs 800vac at 50-100ma about knocked me on my azz.

[alexelectric]

Connect all 12 threads in series, measure a voltage of 400 volts, I am at 1500 rpm, I need more revolutions, I have already ordered the motor 36 v 800 w,
When I was doing the test, I touched the wires of the 400 volt coil, and it scared me, the good thing was that there was not enough amperage to damage me, hahahaha what experience, I will be more careful.
This is how to make various configurations, I will connect less in series and more in parallel to obtain more amperage, and I think it should work at less rpm, since at higher current more repulsion

[BroMikey]

Oh I see it now. Sure 4 channels of 3 or 3 channels of 4, got it. The new rotors are a much safer proposition to run a few r's over the past builds. Not a problem. It will work.

Using a 24 strand is a whole new effort. Any inklings that lower RPM's might be possible with lots of power output? Your main man went down to 1100?