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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
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    Everything listed is standard EE practice for calculating coil eff.
    ...
    you just pull this out of your butt. Show me this "standard EE practice for calculating coil eff" where it is "listed".

    You can't.
    bi

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post

    Repeating a lie doesn't make it any less false. It is totally false. And there is no data showing "0 watts additional in to get 1,000,000 watts output". That is also a lie.
    You were told that these 1 liners do not qualify as an intelligent response. You must prove or show HOW it is wrong.

    "stupid comment"

    "Utter nonsense"

    "Drinking that Kool-Aid"

    "BS Thane Heinz spits out" .

    "so and so is an idiot"

    "it's a lie" or
    "That's all BS" is on the level of a chimp. Everything listed is standard EE practice for calculating coil eff. Don't blame me for your ignorance.

    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post

    Not all of his demo systems are all exactly the same. Taking the variac system we must listen for the goal of the demo presented in each video. As an example in Thanes beginning he would plug a power cord directly into the wall socket and from there to the Variac. The Variac is fed into the universal bench grinder motor. This Variac can lower voltages for starting up the rotors with the magnets on them to cause the generating process.

    The universal grinder motor is a quick easy way to get a set of heavy duty bearing on a large shaft sticking out where normally a huge grinding wheel would be mounted. In this case the rotor with magnets.

    The system I am describing and will continue doing so is nothing like the E-Bike demo's that do not use a Variac because the stock bike motor is a 75vDC motor powered by the onboard batteries. We can see it break even with 3 RegenX coils on the generator side with just the weight of the drive wheel (not a persons weight)

    Continuing with the first demo's and how they were set up. From the variac to the AC bench grinder motor a power analyzer is placed. This number would be like 75v-85v at 4-5Amps coming in at 300w-400w drive motor input and this is called rotational equilibrium. This number is "0" and is not considered part of the generator efficiency calculation of any given coil.

    Remember this is a test bed to calculate generator coil efficiency not a completed practical application including looping and 100's of other possible variables that might effect overall output.

    So in the case of the AC plug to Variac the rotor and magnets start turning and we now can introduce a coil with core. So lets say the core and coil were mounted on the bench grinder drive motor (quick/easy) and the input reads 300w. That 300w is not yet counted so this is a "0" . Next the coil (conventional) is connected to a load. Let's say we are getting 70w output at the load but the drive energy side for the bench grinder went up 100w. This is what we can expect which is a 70% efficient generating coil. Or if we were getting 80w output the efficiency is 80%.

    That is all Thane is doing, he is finding out how much power ADDITIONALLY is needed adding that figure to the 300w REQ. We started out with 300w REQ then adding 100w more the reading is 400w. Now we loaded the coil to 500w and the input goes up ADDITIONALLY to say 700w? Something like that. Or let's go to a load that pulls 8000w then our input to the drive motor will go up to an additional 10,000w + 300wREQ. This is standard Eff.

    Or a 1,000,000w + 300w. You see how the 300w REQ is not worth talking out?

    Not so in the case of the new coils. The input never goes up
    .
    Last edited by BroMikey; 08-02-2021, 04:42 AM.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post

    Not all of his demo systems are all exactly the same. Taking the variac system we must listen for the goal of the demo presented in each video. As an example in Thanes beginning he would plug a power cord directly into the wall socket and from there to the Variac. The Variac is fed into the universal bench grinder motor. This Variac can lower voltages for starting up the rotors with the magnets on them to cause the generating process.

    The universal grinder motor is a quick easy way to get a set of heavy duty bearing on a large shaft sticking out where normally a huge grinding wheel would be mounted. In this case the rotor with magnets.

    The system I am describing and will continue doing so is nothing like the E-Bike demo's that do not use a Variac because the stock bike motor is a 75vDC motor powered by the onboard batteries. We can see it break even with 3 RegenX coils on the generator side with just the weight of the drive wheel (not a persons weight)

    Continuing with the first demo's and how they were set up. From the variac to the AC bench grinder motor a power analyzer is placed. This number would be like 75v-85v at 4-5Amps coming in at 300w-400w drive motor input and this is called rotational equilibrium. This number is "0" and is not considered part of the generator efficiency calculation of any given coil.

    Remember this is a test bed to calculate generator coil efficiency not a completed practical application including looping and 100's of other possible variables that might effect overall output.

    So in the case of the AC plug to Variac the rotor and magnets start turning and we now can introduce a coil with core. So lets say the core and coil were mounted and the bench grinder drive motor (quick/easy) and the input reads 300w. That 300w is not yet counted so this is a "0" . Next the coil (conventional) is connected to a load. Let's say we are getting 70w output at the load but the drive energy side for the bench grinder went up 100w. This is what we can expect which is a 70% efficient generating coil. Or if we were getting 80w output the efficiency is 80%.

    That is all Thane is doing, he is finding out how much power ADDITIONALLY is needed adding that figure to the 300w REQ. We started out with 300w REQ then adding 100w more the reading is 400w. Now we loaded the coil to 500w and to input goes up to say 700w? Something like that. Or let's go to a load that pulls 8000w then our input to the drive motor will go up to 10,000w. This is standard Eff.

    Not so in the case of the new coils. The input never goes up.
    That's all BS. Just his fantasy, just his BS, and yours also. But truth is that output never exceeds input power. Never once in all the years has Thane Heinz, or you, or Turion shown real power output exceeding input power. Never.

    And the following is a huge error on the part of Thane Heinz which is never done in machine efficiency calculation. "equilibrium. This number is "0" and is not considered part of the generator efficiency calculation of any given coil."

    Look up the definition of "efficiency" and "equilibrium". Equilibrium means forces are balanced, NOT zero. I mentioned many times where he starts with this false premise in his videos. Torque on the shaft from the motor to the generator is NOT zero, as he claims.
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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Quantum_well View Post
    Why has he always had to use a variac?
    Not all of his demo systems are all exactly the same. Taking the variac system we must listen for the goal of the demo presented in each video. As an example in Thanes beginning he would plug a power cord directly into the wall socket and from there to the Variac. The Variac is fed into the universal bench grinder motor. This Variac can lower voltages for starting up the rotors with the magnets on them to cause the generating process.

    The universal grinder motor is a quick easy way to get a set of heavy duty bearing on a large shaft sticking out where normally a huge grinding wheel would be mounted. In this case the rotor with magnets.

    The system I am describing and will continue doing so is nothing like the E-Bike demo's that do not use a Variac because the stock bike motor is a 75vDC motor powered by the onboard batteries. We can see it break even with 3 RegenX coils on the generator side with just the weight of the drive wheel (not a persons weight)

    Continuing with the first demo's and how they were set up. From the variac to the AC bench grinder motor a power analyzer is placed. This number would be like 75v-85v at 4-5Amps coming in at 300w-400w drive motor input and this is called rotational equilibrium. This number is "0" and is not considered part of the generator efficiency calculation of any given coil.

    Remember this is a test bed to calculate generator coil efficiency not a completed practical application including looping and 100's of other possible variables that might effect overall output.

    So in the case of the AC plug to Variac the rotor and magnets start turning and we now can introduce a coil with core. So lets say the core and coil were mounted on the bench grinder drive motor (quick/easy) and the input reads 300w. That 300w is not yet counted so this is a "0" . Next the coil (conventional) is connected to a load. Let's say we are getting 70w output at the load but the drive energy side for the bench grinder went up 100w. This is what we can expect which is a 70% efficient generating coil. Or if we were getting 80w output the efficiency is 80%.

    That is all Thane is doing, he is finding out how much power ADDITIONALLY is needed adding that figure to the 300w REQ. We started out with 300w REQ then adding 100w more the reading is 400w. Now we loaded the coil to 500w and to input goes up to say 700w? Something like that. Or let's go to a load that pulls 8000w then our input to the drive motor will go up to an additional 10,000w + 300wREQ. This is standard Eff.

    Or a 1,000,000w + 300w. You see how the 300w REQ is not worth talking out?

    Not so in the case of the new coils. The input never goes up.
    Last edited by BroMikey; 08-02-2021, 03:57 AM.

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  • Quantum_well
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    Why has he always had to use a variac? It doesn't take much energy to turn a freewheeling wheel does it? A decent battery would keep a wheel with no load on it going for many hours. A screaming motor isn't making efficient use of its input energy and that is fact.
    Last edited by Quantum_well; 08-01-2021, 09:16 PM.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post

    No not completely free. You will have to build the machine and then the input is FREE.

    Conventional = 1,000,000watts in to get 650,000watts out under high demand

    RegenX = 0 watts additional in to get 1,000,000 watts output

    The data you are ignoring/looking for is 200 years old.
    Repeating a lie doesn't make it any less false. It is totally false. And there is no data showing "0 watts additional in to get 1,000,000 watts output". That is also a lie.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post

    This is not data. It is a lie. It is false.
    No not completely free. You will have to build the machine and then the input is FREE.

    Conventional = 1,000,000watts in to get 650,000watts out under high demand

    RegenX = 0 watts additional in to get 1,000,000 watts output

    The data you are ignoring/looking for is 200 years old.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
    ...
    With the RegenX coils no extra input is required to produce another 1,000,000 watts ...
    This is not data. It is a lie. It is false.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post



    I see no data in your reply. What "posted data" are you referring to? I'm not interested in your fantasy, make-believe, guessed numbers and stupid comments about a field of which you are ignorant. Show me data. Real data. And how about replies to the bullet points? You can't answer direct sensible questions. All you do is regurgitate the BS Thane Heinz spits out. Utter nonsense. Drinking that Kool-Aid again?
    bi
    Exactly, i rest my case


    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post


    Those not understanding standard EE calculation format can not be considered
    "Skilled in the art? All utility generators produce millions of watts of power
    With the RegenX coils no extra input is required to produce another 1,000,000 watts which is infinite efficiency.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post

    What "posted data"?
    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post

    Those not understanding standard EE calculation format can not be considered
    "Skilled in the art? All utility generators produce millions of watts of power. An open circuit condition with the rotor free wheeling may be sustained at say 5000 watts is irrelevant when considering a full load condition.

    So much in and so much output. 10,000w input to get 6500w output, these are the facts. 1,000,000 watts input to get 650,000 watt output during heavy grid usage.

    With the RegenX coils no extra input is required to produce another 1,000,000 watts which is infinite efficiency. Another 2 million generated, costs zero on the input.

    So while you focus on the 5000watt cost to freewheel a rotor the EE is looking at the over all big picture. Not the .005%
    I see no data in your reply. What "posted data" are you referring to? I'm not interested in your fantasy, make-believe, guessed numbers and stupid comments about a field of which you are ignorant. Show me data. Real data. And how about replies to the bullet points? You can't answer direct sensible questions. All you do is regurgitate the BS Thane Heinz spits out. Utter nonsense. Drinking that Kool-Aid again?
    bi

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post

    What "posted data"?
    Those not understanding standard EE calculation format can not be considered
    "Skilled in the art? All utility generators produce millions of watts of power. An open circuit condition with the rotor free wheeling may be sustained at say 5000 watts is irrelevant when considering a full load condition.

    So much in and so much output. 10,000w input to get 6500w output, these are the facts. 1,000,000 watts input to get 650,000 watt output during heavy grid usage.

    With the RegenX coils no extra input is required to produce another 1,000,000 watts which is infinite efficiency. Another 2 million generated, costs zero on the input.

    So while you focus on the 5000watt cost to freewheel a rotor the EE is looking at the over all big picture. Not the .005%
    Last edited by BroMikey; 07-31-2021, 01:52 AM.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
    Again you ignore the posted data from real people doing hands on testing. ...
    What "posted data"?

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  • BroMikey
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    ReGenX Generator Innovation

    The ReGenX Generator is a new US Patented Electric Generator innovation that requires zero Mechanical Input Energy when performing Electrical and Mechnical Work - outputting Electrical Power at Infinite Efficiency.

    In addition, the ReGenX Generator also simultaneously performs Positive Mechanical Work at Infinite Efficiency (accelerating and increasing the Kinetic Energy of both the generator and prime mover system) without requiring any Externally Supplied Input Energy. ReGen-X

    Quantum Motor Innovation

    The ReGen-X Quantum Motor is a new US Patented Electric Motor innovation that also requires zero Electrical Input Energy when it performs Mechanical Work at Infinite Efficiency - increasing the system's Kinetic Energy. A "New" Energy Source Discovery for Humanity - Harnessing Sub-Atomically Created Quantum Electron Energy Both the ReGenX Generator and ReGen-X Motor have the unique ability to harness Sub-Atomically Created Quantum Electron Energy while performing Positive Mechanical Work (accelerating and increasing the system's Kinetic Energy).

    Interestingly enough all conventional electric generators also harness the same Sub-Atomically Created Quantum Electron Energy, but they perform Negative Work with this energy (decelerating and reducing the Kinetic Energy of the generator prime mover system). Generator Armature Reaction, EV regenerative braking, Counter-Electromagnetic-Torque, Negative Work.

    Thane C. Heins

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  • BroMikey
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    Again you ignore the posted data from real people doing hands on testing. Blatant obstinate behavior that can't even acknowledge 200 years of science showing the direct relationships of input vs output. Without a clear thinking process which can address the standards used today, no further discussion is possible as all other invention is compared to the old rules.

    For those who think the core material is to blame is an entirely baseless suggestion. or that open circuit coils on the same cores drag the rotor down worse than another by 20X. Insanity.

    This only serves to show that you do not understand the process that the coils offer. These coils are often wound to both assist rotor action and produce electrical current at the same time.

    The old equal and opposite coils drag the rotor slower while making a few joules.

    The one liner man "Show me a working OU machine right now this minute or I am going to poop my pants"

    Only those skilled in the art will grasp these new effects. Stay frosty and don't take any wooden nickels.
    Last edited by BroMikey; 07-31-2021, 01:37 AM.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
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    With these RegenX type coils a 5000watts of produced output costs no increase to the drive motor turning the rotor. A 20,000 watt output does not raise the drive motor input.
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    What a bunch of BS. False. No proof. Just fantasy. Show a single case of sustained real output power exceeding input power, measured, simultaneously, without using stored energy in a flywheel or battery or such.

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