Motor Generators

[Quantum_well]

Bro' I bet you couldn't give me one working example from the dozens of people who've got working OU. that actually works.

[BroMikey]

This is Tina,she's helping me prepare lunch for the farm workers last Sunday. She's considering using a Kibble balance to weigh the ingredients for a salad.
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Nice expose on the farm. Stick to the barn yard and you'll be good to go. I forgot to tell you dozens of people have various versions of both running way OU so buckle up we can't have grown men busting out into weeping.

[Quantum_well]

There is zero chance that poor old Turion's generator would do anything like he was claiming. The bottom line is that people just don't know how to measure and calculate, it's as simple as that.
With Thane what's the point of having a bike frame? Absolutely nothing, it's just a means of confusing people.
This is Tina,she's helping me prepare lunch for the farm workers last Sunday. She's considering using a Kibble balance to weigh the ingredients for a salad.
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[BroMikey]

Under $1000 for the back rim and hub motor. Put up or shut up

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12410064364...0db0b2f1d7eede

[BroMikey]

I have been following Matt and Dave's abusive ramblings since 2012

06-15-2013, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by erfinder View Post
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Like Matt's motor mine generates a (forgive the term...) transient like phenomena which like in the 3BGS goes off the scope in both directions, regardless of zoom....(this is not the collapsing field transient....I have that transient suppressed, doing measurable work!!!) when this wave manifests, everything electronic in the working area of the device and beyond if sensitive enough stops working....LOL....




Its a Scalar. Put it in an old microwave, the spike will come through.

Matt

ADD BROMIKEY TO YOUR IGNORE LIST He is a saboteur bent on the systematic distraction of every good topic on this forum and since he has been here most working threads have shut down. He is the enemy. If you have blocked him already add this to your signature and encourage others to block him as well. His onslaught of rambling in large text and his constant attempts to misinform at the excuse of being stupid should no longer be tolerated.

USER CP/Ignore list.

[BroMikey]

Wonder what happened to Turion.
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It is hard to say with all of the deaths caused by the vaccines. Dave has 3 masters degrees and is a mainstream fella. Some say he got an offer he couldn't refuse but not with that incomplete mess.It can only run 10 minutes while Thane has a continuous running unit with no issues.

Dave has worked himself sick doing to much at his age and then a shot of the bio-weapon operating system vax could have set him back. just an educated guess, I hope he didn't get that shot, but he probably did knowing he was going to travel north. He wants to do everything by the book. I remember his words during the 2020 pandemic, he thinks we are living in a safe reality going to the medical field of practitioners who advocate so they get the big money.

I have tried to reason with Dave privately and he ignores all of the warnings like many do. More people have already died from this experimental jab than all other previous vaccines combined in the last few decades.

[BroMikey]

Wonder what happened to Turion.
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Basic Free Energy Device

I can barely stand to come to this forum anymore. Most of the builders I have worked with for so many years have given up and moved on, although I am in contact with MANY of them by email or phone on occasion. All we are left with now are a bunch of folks who jump from thread to thread posting videos they have seen on YouTube that they believe are "for real" and a bunch of others who feel compelled to share how the "THEORY" they have come up with applies to every possible thread on the forum.

That was NEVER the purpose of this forum. NEVER.

I read yesterday that John Bedini doesn't come here because of all the nasty things that people here say to each other. Obviously this person knows John Bedini personally and John has confided in him right? I doubt it. Perhaps John doesn't post anymore because he got sick and tired of trying to tell us exactly how to do something and then having everyone do it their own way, or posting all kinds of crap theories about how it works without ever having built a single thing themselves. YEARS of that can wear you down. Do I know this for sure? No. Because I don't know John personally. But then I am not CLAIMING to know WHAT John thinks. I simply made a suggestion as to a POSSIBLE motive. Unless you DO know John and he does confide in you, I DOUBT you know why he doesn't post here very often either. But John already said his piece. We just need to LISTEN.

So here is what I propose. Let us begin with a basic concept for THAT free energy device. EVERYONE who contributes to the thread must first show that they have built the basic prototype or their comments will be completely ignored and we will ask that they just leave.

If you have an idea, great…build it. If you have a theory, great, implement it. If you have a suggestion, modify your OWN build and THEN report the results. DONT come on here with half assed ideas you expect others to implement because you had a wet dream about how something should be constructed or it came to you in a vision because you ate some mushrooms you grew in your back yard. Don't give us theories on how it should work or why it should work. Build the thing and show us that it DOES work and THEN tell us what you DID, not what you're "GOING to do." We don't want theories, we want action. A theory is not something you should share. It is something you should APPY to your own build, and IF it is successful and produces free energy, THEN you share it. Otherwise, keep it to yourself.

Building
Experimentation
Trial and Error
Presentation of FACTS NOT THEORIES. Let YOUR theories influence YOUR build not everyone else's
Replication of successful builds.
THAT'S the foundation this forum was built on.

John showed us what he said was a working free energy device and stated that we had everything we needed to make it work.

It consisted of:
A battery
A motor
An energizer or generator
A flywheel
A control circuit to pulse the motor and charge the battery during the off time between pulses.

Oh, and by the way…John showed how to build the device. He did not spend pages and pages going into the theory of why or how it worked. He just explained how to BUILD it. If you build it and it works, then we will figure out the why and the how so we can apply the concepts to other models.


How many of you who claim to be builders have actually taken the time to build this simple device and see the results? And then modify your device. And then modify it again. And discuss your results with others who are also building. That is what I am asking that we get back to on this thread. If you want to talk theory, go find another thread.

I have built such a device. It produces more out than in. I built a small prototype and then spent a few thousand dollars developing a larger prototype which I was sure would be "it." I have come to understand enough that I will have to build yet a third prototype. But I have gone back to working with a small unit to perfect it before I go to the expense of building another 12 coil unit

But I am NOT done experimenting. Length of coil. Distance of winds from magnet. Size of magnet. Distance between magnet and core. Core material. Size of wire. Length of wire. Number of coils vs number of magnets on rotor. One rotor, or rotors at both ends of coil. Universal motor or pulse motor. Motor run in standard configuration or 3BGS configuration. Standard winding on stock motor or rewound motor that uses far less amps to run. Weight of flywheel. Distance of weights from center axis. Pulse length. Position of magnet to coil when pulse is initiated. These are some of the things I am experimenting with. It would go way faster if I had some others working with me, but make no mistake. I WILL keep improving this design.

A simple two coil device should put out TWICE the power that the motor consumes in running and 80-85% of what the motor uses should be recoverable. That is the basic unit. Just two coils and a rotor run by a motor with a flywheel.
Build it. Show it. Let us see your results. THEN lets figure out how to make some history.

Oh, and before I forget to mention it…..the device I have built, while it would seem to be a replication of John B's device, it really is NOT. John never gave specifics as to size of coil, size of wire, length of wire, size of magnet, etc. He just gave the basics. The specs I quoted above are for my replication of ANOTHER builder's device. His name is Matt Jones. All the "specifics" are his, based on a whole heck of a lot of actual BUILDING and EXPERIMENTING.

Dave

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[BroMikey]

Originally posted by Turion View Post
John showed us what he said was a working free energy device and stated that we had everything we needed to make it work.
Dave




The FACT that you and 1000s of other INTELLIGENT folks have attempt to produce John B. "simple" device and failed is not proof of your failure,......
rather that John is full OF IT.


Sorry to offend anyone, but the premise that the Ether , an ORANGE, can be SQUEEZED for some juice......, without actually squeezing it, is a premise Id call bull cookies.


There are only 3 possibles for getting same

1. tapping static field torque, in which case you apply ONE squeeze and keep draining the juice
2. Tapping field pressures, movement and flow already present everywhere MUCH more efficiently.
3. Praying to god , or Satan, or whoever for a "miracle"

Theres already enough momentum inside a handful of dust, the atoms, to fuel a WHOLE TOWN for a week. The so called atom bomb is not, its an inertia releasing device. No matter is converted into energy at all.

As to this forum being "rude", hell, this forum is INCREDIBLY tame compared to most Ive been on.


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[bistander]

Blind man who thinks everyone is lying. Okay I knew that. Anyway lets go back to the original demo. Thane tells us that his calculations show that the motor is a hub motor part of the factory e-bike package and that the unit is drawing 375 watts of power.

Then while that process continues with the decline of battery voltage down to 74v in a matter of seconds our focus is redirected to another process that will generator power back to the battery.

The blade switches (3) are thrown. The output of the regenX generator coils is 397 watts and the battery voltage that was declining quickly recovers. At the same time system kinetic is increased as per the RPM speed. A speed increase from 3300 rpm on up to 3600 rpm. Also in other test we see the prime mower watts drop by 30 watts.

Maybe a hidden power source or faulty this or that? oh wicked and faithless generation how long will you be given an open door?

Show that data. Link to the video to which you refer, give screenshots or timestamps of the data points. It's obvious that you and Thane can't differentiate charge from discharge. So your argument stands meaningless without proof, or at least real data. Everyone doesn't lie about things like this, just Thane, you, and Turion.

Wonder what happened to Turion.
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[BroMikey]

You believe an idiot on you tube who doesn't know his butt from a hole in the ground.

Blind man who thinks everyone is lying. Okay I knew that. Anyway lets go back to the original demo. Thane tells us that his calculations show that the motor is a hub motor part of the factory e-bike package and that the unit is drawing 375 watts of power.

Then while that process continues with the decline of battery voltage down to 74v in a matter of seconds our focus is redirected to another process that will generator power back to the battery.

The blade switches (3) are thrown. The output of the regenX generator coils is 397 watts and the battery voltage that was declining quickly recovers. At the same time system kinetic is increased as per the RPM speed. A speed increase from 3300 rpm on up to 3600 rpm. Also in other test we see the prime mower watts drop by 30 watts.

Maybe a hidden power source or faulty this or that? oh wicked and faithless generation how long will you be given an open door?

[bistander]

Grow up and build Thane's setup, don't post silly grade school adventures of your past stick to the facts. battery voltage does not decline. watch video and weep.

You won't lift a finger to learn, will you? Happy to be and remain ignorant. So easy to read a book chapter, or informative web page or do a 20 minute experiment. But no. You believe an idiot on you tube who doesn't know his butt from a hole in the ground. The battery voltage is declining but his instruments aren't sensitive enough to show it that soon. As I said before, hours will easily show the voltage declining. Even in the short time he stays focused on the voltmeter, it flirts with going from 75.1 to 75.0. Then he quickly ends the test. Wonder why?
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[BroMikey]

Grow up and build Thane's setup, don't post silly grade school adventures of your past stick to the facts. battery voltage does not decline. watch video and weep.

[bistander]

min 8 the battery voltage will not go down. E-bike motor 5a, RegenX 5.3a 75v the battery voltage will not go down, repeat the battery voltage is shown and will not go down. Why all meter readings vary is unknown but it is clearly not discharging. I think using one meter for so many measurements is just for the video.

Better watch again and weep. The proof is the sustained 75.1v during operations. Did you see that extra cord? Thane must have hidden a secret battery? That rascal.

75 volts is less than 76.9 volts, the open circuit (resting) voltage of the battery after he opens the switch disconnecting the load. The battery was discharging. The 75 volt reading is the battery terminal voltage which is equal to the open circuit voltage minus the current times the internal resistance. Look it up. That is proof that the battery was definitely discharging.

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Ref. http://oer2go.org/mods/en-boundless/...104/index.html

Do the test which I suggested. Learn something.
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[BroMikey]

min 8 the battery voltage will not go down. E-bike motor 5a, RegenX 5.3a 75v the battery voltage will not go down, repeat the battery voltage is shown and will not go down. Why all meter readings vary is unknown but it is clearly not discharging. I think using one meter for so many measurements is just for the video.

Better watch again and weep. The proof is the sustained 75.1v during operations. Did you see that extra cord? Thane must have hidden a secret battery? That rascal.

[bistander]

Same ole game of liar liar, second guessing. Trolling with a made up mind sees ghosts and goblins. Still won't address the never ending ebike. No response to the real facts of the video just make up your own. the goal of all three video's were stated. Not one of you watched and hear what that goal was. Can any of you point out the goal in the first video? Or the second? I act like I don't know the goal as stated to see if it goes right over little fruitless talks. Yes it does. It(the goal) was stated in the start of the video. All this shows is that you are not hearing or seeing what is being said in the video's. The meters read when switches are thrown. Then you want to say the red scooter is the same as the e-bike. All these machines have advanced circuits connected such as a rectifier with caps. You are making up figures based on switches that are disengaged and calling out liar liar. You are mental. Course we already knew that, just ignore the video explanation and put out fuzzy pictures of meter readings with the intent to get minds to wonder.

The blade switches disconnect the generator coils but we don't know where and how much of the processing circuit is being read by the meter. One trick question after another grasping. So unskilled in the art.

What a load of BS. Battery voltage and battery current. You can see the displays and read the values. Pretty straightforward. What's the problem? As far as goal, it is obviously to convince his audience of his lie. He is such an idiot that he doesn't even realize his instruments disprove his claims as he is delivering the falsehoods. He stands there stating the voltage is rising while the camera is focused on the voltmeter and the value is not rising.

I don't know the exact battery in the ebike, but could be rated at 50-60 Ah. So at 5-6 amp discharge, would take like 10 hours to fully discharge. The terminal voltage for the few minutes the camera is focused on the meter is too small a period for the decrease in voltage to be noticed. He claims it will run forever without charging. How about 10 hours?

Tell us what you think his goal is and how exactly the presentation supports that.

You think you're skilled in the art? Run the battery charge and discharge test which I described and describe the behavior at shutdown comparing to the shutdown of Thane's ebike where I snapped those screenshots. Does the behavior seen on Thane's video more closely resemble what you see on charge or on discharge? Or is that beyond your skill level in the art?
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