Motor Generators

[SkyWatcher]

Hi all, Hi bromikey, good to see you still working at it.

I've been relaxing a bit, rejuvenating my connection with spirit/home.

I just recently built a thermal mass heater, which is surprisingly effective and efficient.

What I am seeing with the thermal mass heater, is a correlation in my mind, with the flywheel amplifiers, that you brought up on the previous page bromikey.

At the moment, i think those flywheel devices require a strong impulse drive, to extract gain, which is mentioned by some working on those devices.

Whether an electromagnet is used to pulse a flywheel, or a loose belt, or a friction drive wheel, that gives it a kick intermittently, the key is a high magnitude torque impulse.

I think their is a solid state analogue for that flywheel gain mechanism.

My heater is not pulsed, though it does use high magnitude heating elements.

Each heating element uses low power, though has high potential, so it is similar to a high value impulse, for brief moments.

So it may take a little longer to heat up the 30 lbs. of thermal mass, which is a medium sized terracotta flower pot, filled with pea gravel.

The high magnitude heating elements are removed from 120 vac 30 watt solder pens and they are buried in the top of the pea gravel,

The thermal mass, just like the inertial mass, wants to keep moving in the direction it is kicked and I think if enough mass is charged up, at some point it will provide gain.

It will become like a freight train and it can maintain a certain load gain, based upon the impulse magnitude and if too much torque load is extracted, it will start to slow down.

Or if the air space load, the thermal mass heater is immersed in, is too large, then the thermal mass will move below its stable neutral point, based upon the impulse value, where it will move out of the window of gain.

Joe Newman's giant eureka machine, derived gain from the pulsed inertial mass, in addition to the large mass of copper, which allowed a high magnetic impulse, for a low power input.

Will be watching this site more often now.

peace love light

[BroMikey]

using a calculator is important

[BroMikey]

I forgot how

oil pumping and oil producers have no clue, teaching your dog this material will prove more successful. all oil companies know is dumping huge vats of tar and degreaser spraying plus hydrogen sulfide contamination

oil Barron's can never understand a purely intellectual discussion.

[BroMikey]

iPhone,this is the view of a company that tried hard to commercialise Thane.

[jim glinski]

Hello guys I've seen something in DC motor designs that give me a question its why in the hell don't they use both poles in the motors they only use one mostly north .if your creating a electro magnet to push against a north pole and leave the south just dangling in mid air ??.granted its a engineering head acke but still loose half the power ? If the main shaft was hollow you could run wires inside .I've heard of a guy that used both poles and doubled the output .

[Quantum_well]

I forgot how

[Quantum_well]

iPhone,this is the view of a company that tried hard to commercialise Thane.

[Memphis]

Thank you Turion, I think I will use a 12 inch rotor for now as a prototype because my lathe is the best it can work, otherwise I have to go to a friend and make a bigger one, I'm undecided, for now I know I have 6 very powerful cylindrical N52 rare earth magnets with measurements: height 3cm, width 6cm. Of course it would be better to run the rotor at a lower speed because there would be fewer balancing problems, background noise and vibrations, .... What rotor diameter would you recommend?

[BroMikey]

Start with the original Thane setup in 2007, I believe new ideas are going to supersede the old.

[BroMikey]

Looks like Thane posted another set of videos (4 of them).

For the record, here is my response to one of them, the last one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzqgLlJIGS8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH26U-lnCvs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOA57TdSDUI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1y176L6e1U&t=1s

I posted a comment on his last video and he responded with another video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY5Yoz9HpT8

I responded to that video as well clearly showing that his battery is not charging but discharging. Clearly is stuff doesn't work.


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where is your setup? Many of Thanes 10-15 tests only claim extended range. Do you have a comparable generator setup which proves Thane is lying thru his teeth, because that is what you just said. There are very few demo's with enough coils to break even and that is impossible.

Until then we will have to wait for real proof for or against but just talking about video's out of context show a malicious intent. Pride is a big problem for guys like you with a popcorn peanut education. Yes you may heve paid alot for your schooling but no one can force another person to gulp the koolaid of misinfo. Global warming and so forth

Am I right, you wear a mask everywhere and are worried when your vaccines are not updated? Humm? Yup I am right again and can see right thru you super hero ultra smart guys who got a diploma looks like out of a cracker jacks box. But hey, that's just me, what do you care?

[pmgriphone]

I have never heard of your successful replication of flywheel energy. Did you get half way through the project and deem it obsolete too?

These devices are energy multipliers

No they are not. They are current multipliers and energy storage devices, not energy multipliers.

[pmgriphone]

Looks like Thane posted another set of videos (4 of them).

For the record, here is my response to one of them, the last one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzqgLlJIGS8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH26U-lnCvs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOA57TdSDUI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1y176L6e1U&t=1s

I posted a comment on his last video and he responded with another video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY5Yoz9HpT8

I responded to that video as well clearly showing that his battery is not charging but discharging. Clearly is stuff doesn't work.


thane.JPG

[BroMikey]

I am sorry Dave. I am with my young children now and I would feel bad if we were apart. Many family relationships are not this good but if you have good times this is important. I find it harder to travel now in my old age.

I wish you could find a way. to see the grand's too. Time is short so collect up a small basket of gifts and mail them

I can't afford two trips to AZ right now and I really miss my three kids. Not being there for Christmas with them is a real bummer. So I am very unhappy with the progress that is being made, but it is out of my control right now.

[Turion]

Memphis,
I will get back to you on the info about the coils. I honestly don't remember, and I wound 12 of them!! We were experimenting with so many different coil configurations that I do not remember which one we settled on. And my machine is in Sacramento until next Wednesday.There main thing you have to remember is the relationship between core material, core MASS, wire length rotor diameter and rpm. The slower (under 2800 rpm) you are going to run the machine (with a 10-11" rotor) the more the other variables will have to be adjusted. 1,000 feet of #23 wire on a coil at 2800 rpm with an 11" rotor, using a standard coil bobbin filled with permalloy, allowing it to stick out 1/4" from the bobbin, I know EXACTLY what you need to do. Change ANYTHING, and everything changes.

Bi,
No, I haven't given up on the black generator. According to my partners in Sacramento, it will be done at the machinist's on Wednesday. Then they have to get it to me or I have to go pick it up, and it will take a couple days to assemble at LEAST. I did not get to go see my children or grandchildren for Christmas since I wanted to wait to have a working machine to take to AZ to meet with someone who is interested in buying us out if it actually works. So I am quite anxious to get it up and running too. Not to sell it, but because I can't afford two trips to AZ right now and I really miss my three kids. Not being there for Christmas with them is a real bummer. So I am very unhappy with the progress that is being made, but it is out of my control right now.

[BroMikey]

What's happening? Well let's see, young families are out shopping and planning to get home from work in time to wrap presents. Everything else will have to wait a couple of days. Be realistic. The black box is hard to repair now that it must be checked and rechecked for .001 tolerance. this takes time and great patience. One error in recut could set back it's recreation.

The way I see the box is that each half should have some sort of pilot to join them. Without that 1 degree out will change the angle of the rotor and rub.

Hi Turion,

Have you given up on the big black generator? It's been a long time and seemingly no progress. What's happening?
bi