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  • tachyoncatcher
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    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Hello to All,
    TESTING POWER STROKE
    Well, above is a video about my concept on Power Stroke...plus where I am at this point on the project...Mack, please feel free to make any constructive criticism as you like, it would not discourage me at all...
    All others... just stay AWAY and very quiet...I mean, shut up...
    Just kidding...But hey, guys...show your darn videos !!...it is the only way Mack could see them and tell us what is wrong...then we could evolve here!!
    Regards
    Ufopolitics
    Ufo,
    You are so close. I see two tweaks to try that could put you over the edge. Put the bottom ramp that you had in the first video back on. Exactly as you had it. You were getting great acceleration from that ramp on the repulsion node. Take the top ramp from the second video and bring the tine ends down, closer to the rotor. Mack did say 0 force vector. That would be 90 degrees from the face of the rotor magnet. Think of the force as lines parallel to the center line of the magnet, 90 degrees to that. Said another way, beside the face. Also, you will want the arc to get closer to the rotor until you reach the stator then match the circumference of the rotor until the end.

    You are so close Buddy! I don't think you have to have different lengths of ramps as the contributions to motion happen at different times. The attraction node is first, then the repulsion node at about 2/3 down the ramp and past the end. Counter intuitive I know, but that is the way it looks to me. I think our traveling South fields is messing with the rotor fields to give it that little extra oomph at the end.

    As I said, I'm a wage slave, so I have very little precious time for this. No time for waiting on Youtube uploads. I'll throw some snapshots up later for you.

    Back to the shop,

    Randy

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  • BenChatman
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    Ufo

    You are doing a awesome job, I'm hoping to get a test rig up next week


    Regards Ben

    omg i made a post so soon after joining

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Testing Power Stroke Video

    Hello to All,

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtMZpDSCFEI&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]

    TESTING POWER STROKE

    Well, above is a video about my concept on Power Stroke...plus where I am at this point on the project...Mack, please feel free to make any constructive criticism as you like, it would not discourage me at all...

    All others... just stay AWAY and very quiet...I mean, shut up...


    Just kidding...But hey, guys...show your darn videos !!...it is the only way Mack could see them and tell us what is wrong...then we could evolve here!!


    Regards


    Ufopolitics

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  • lorinrandone
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    Originally posted by MadMack View Post
    Glad to see you are still with us Cristian. I have no doubt there is more than one way to build the ramps. If anyone has positive results with anything related to this motor, please share. What I know must surely be only the tip of the iceberg. We may end up building a much better one before we are through here.

    Regards,
    Mack
    Mack Thanks for your optimism, but do not think there yet another improvement in the construction of its engine. I was referring to your model ramps, thinking it uncomfortable to have 6 ramps (for a 6-pole motor). I believe you to find it combined the system for only 3 combo ramps, one for 2 opposite poles.
    This is my opinion, but if I'm wrong, is because there are still many things to free interpretation by each.
    regard. Cristian

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  • sprocket
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    Originally posted by MadMack View Post
    Good. Not such an abrupt drop on the tines, take longer to reduce it smoothly.
    This is on the attraction node (I like that term).

    Regards,
    Mack
    Yeah, figured as much, I'm just not much of an artist, particularly when doodling with just a mouse.
    Last edited by sprocket; 10-12-2015, 08:47 PM.

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  • boguslaw
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    To download videos from youtube under linux I usually use keepvid.com service

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  • MadMack
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    Originally posted by SlickDick View Post
    Thank you. Now I know where to get the latest version. I have this so mine must be outdated.

    Regards,
    Mack

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  • MadMack
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    Originally posted by lorinrandone View Post
    Gentlemen
    As you know I do not control the English, but there are important things to say. I, such as you have imagined, I have not abandoned this project, so I
    tests and tests with different materials to achieve the optimal ramps. I personally believe that the final ramp is incomplete.
    I also believe that the ramp repulsion, not very different from the ramp of attraction but both are united in a kind of X, placed between stators north and south by neighboring pairs
    Thus the management of the force vectors explained, just acting the X ramp, also explained that at this time we can
    determining the extent as said rotor had Mack, considering the extent of the rampe combo. I can be wrong and the master Mack, you can correct me. Good luck in getting this engine.
    best regards....
    Glad to see you are still with us Cristian. I have no doubt there is more than one way to build the ramps. If anyone has positive results with anything related to this motor, please share. What I know must surely be only the tip of the iceberg. We may end up building a much better one before we are through here.

    Regards,
    Mack

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  • SlickDick
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    Originally posted by MadMack View Post
    Off topic but how can I download those Youtube videos? I use Linux.

    Thanks,
    Mack
    Hi Mack,

    Try https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/

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  • MadMack
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    Originally posted by sprocket View Post
    I may be way off but this is the way I interpret what MadMack is saying - once the ramp has done its job and at its closest point to the rotor, reduce the tine cross-section but continued along the rotor's arc of travel. The plan view would show it similarly being reduced to form a point.
    Good. Not such an abrupt drop on the tines, take longer to reduce it smoothly.
    This is on the attraction node (I like that term).

    Regards,
    Mack

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  • MadMack
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    Originally posted by tachyoncatcher View Post
    Dear Mack,
    With the North facing rotors, we are chasing a South field down the ramps on both ends. On the repelling side based on Ufo's positioning of the ramp on the stator magnet, I would say the added length is needed to provide a place for that south field to move to. This then gives us the attraction seen that pulls the repelling rotor toward the end of the ramp. His ramp design and placement does not allow for inductive kick and this can be seen in the video. So, I don't believe the moving South field disappears, but gets moved to the bottom of the ramp where the opposing north field is weaker. Then moves to the end to create the pull we see of the rotor magnet to the repelling stator magnet. Yum, yum, my words taste good. Lol. So polarity IS used as a tool to further bias the nodes at the stator magnets.

    Now with that said the attracting side is wholly different. The ramp has an inductive kick in front of the stator, but that moving South field is still present in the ramp. With ramps, as Ufo has them, this would amplify the South field of the stator and extend it past the stator magnet giving us the seen braking. So my take aways are such:
    Attracting side-
    The attracting ramp must end ~ the middle of the attracting stator magnet to end that moving field even with the magnet, for now. The ramp should terminate in such a way that the force vectors are as close to zero as possible and the mass is minimized at the center line of the stator magnet. I believe the ramp should also be near the face of the stator magnet.

    Repulsion side-
    The ramps should extend beyond the repulsive stator magnet. The end should be blunt and not too close to the face of the magnet. Mass at the end for the moving field to travel to. See Ufo's video of bottom ramp.

    Thanks you Ufopolitics for the excellent video. It has been a great learning tool when used in slow motion. The process I use to view Youtube video in slow motion is by downloading the video, then viewing it with VLC media player. This allows you to slow the motion down as slow as you like. Something Youtube lacks.

    Thanks All,

    Randy
    Randy,
    I really appreciate the technical analysis you bring to the discussion. I think you understand what these fields are doing better than I do. My theories are based more on "Hey if I do this, then that happens." Like the nail experiment.

    Off topic but how can I download those Youtube videos? I use Linux.

    Thanks,
    Mack

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  • MadMack
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    Originally posted by Siggi1974 View Post
    Hi Mack,

    thanks for that. This was pretty clear. However my question then would be, why we cannot use repelling stators only and tune all ramps identical

    Best regards
    Siggi

    That is a good question Siggi. You can do that and that is just what Bedini did.
    That design requires a heavy shunt to partially block the repulsion of the approaching magnet and a different type of ramp. There is still a repulsion loss even with that shunt.
    The balanced design we are working with here is better partly because it allows a lossless approach for the magnets without shunts.

    Mack

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  • sprocket
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    I may be way off but this is the way I interpret what MadMack is saying - once the ramp has done its job and at its closest point to the rotor, reduce the tine cross-section but continued along the rotor's arc of travel. The plan view would show it similarly being reduced to form a point.
    Attached Files

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  • BroMikey
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    One more for the road.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by aguy View Post
    food 4 thought
    it seems to me that a magnet on acceleration away from like pole should pull next magnet through gate a if it cant then the rotor should be linked[geared?] to outer dia magnets so that can be flipped changing pole
    Hello aguy

    Can I make a statement? I have needed to say this for 1 month. Not just for

    you aguy but for everyone. I am going to ask you some questions. When you

    answer these questions, you will understand. Is this okay?

    Here we go.

    Question #1
    Do the people coming here know who started this thread?

    Question #2
    Do the people understand that Mack has 40 years of professional
    experience in the industrial engineering field???

    Question #3
    Do the people understand that this motor with it's parts, as we are showing,
    come from old patents or what is called "PRIOR ART"????

    Question #4
    Do the people understand that this build has been done several times and
    other more advanced motors besides????

    Question #5
    Do the people realize that they keep making comments that suggest
    that this motor might not work unless we hear their input, when this
    motor we are building has been built before and is running using
    the basic principles from Prior art.

    Question #6
    Do the people understand that Mack is only giving hints from day to day
    as a means of helping us to be recipients of a first hand step by step
    investigation into a worth while direction??????

    Question #7
    Do the people passing by even read the beginning of the thread?

    This is not a guessing game in the respect that no one knows how,
    it is a hinting method so that we may use out minds as we proceed to
    actually understand the motor we are building.

    This investigation is being handled in a way so that we may have
    time to throw out all of the dogma surrounding the lies that magnet
    motors are worthless. The method you see of daily hints and coaching
    is done so that success will take place at the same time we get
    why that it works, not the other way around.

    The way most people get messed up is that they try to figure it out
    first and use some math to back it up and then they know it doesn't work.

    This process is only for those who are willing to put their hand to a
    project who's course has already been charted by a man who has them
    running on many levels.

    We are not waiting for anyone else, just MACK and Mack is not waiting
    for everyone to come by to correct his motor, that has already been done.
    Mack is waiting for a few of us serious builders to complete the steps
    laid out by him.

    Of course we are not trying to be hateful so we want to you to understand
    these questions. We thank you for your kind words of concern and your
    offering in the form of knowledge you have gathered over the years.

    Thank you for your interest. I hope you can understand my questions and
    will consider this project for yourself and your friends. This is a done did deal
    not a fake/guessing of what might be in the sweet by and by.

    I hope everyone is clear on these facts and I have written these words
    to encourage you. Start this build today.
    Last edited by BroMikey; 10-12-2015, 06:21 AM.

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