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  • clarence
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    Added photo and information for b&l schematic

    Hello BroMikey,

    this is one of the actual pizzeo current transducers that send their values to the amp and volt meters on the inside of the panel door.



    below is an actual photo of the POWER ON indicator light/SAFETY DEVICE that was used and is represented by the circle with the two black arrows and black dot inside it.






    just more information for members knowledge and use.
    after awhile EVERYTHING will be known about the device under study and some members are building.

    Respects

    Clarence
    Last edited by clarence; 03-28-2016, 07:37 AM.

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  • luc2010
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    Hello Mr Clarence,

    Thank You Very much on this INFORMATION FOR CONSTRUCTION OF SINGLE TOROID with SINGLE CAPTOR COIL!! SIR, i am sure many members will appriciate it!

    I am so busy with my primary coil winding process for the moment!! Sorry

    again Thank You So much!!

    back to work

    Best Regards
    luc2010
    Last edited by luc2010; 03-28-2016, 01:36 AM.

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  • luc2010
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    Originally posted by clarence View Post
    Hello luc2010,

    you are one of the reasons why I put this information out there.
    many have been asking about how to do the one toroid with the one Barbosa & Leal Captor Coil and THIS is not my setup. It is strictly the same thing they built and used and are STILL using.
    SO be SURE to always refer back to this information and build and construct
    every thing exactly as you see it! do NOT deviate from their method or you will screw up.

    I am aware that you are in the process of building your own toroid with the same type of blank salvaged stator as they used. I also know that you are doing things this way because the cost and availability in your country of
    Africa are prohibitive . my hat is off to you SIR and the many others just like you.
    I do also hope that the location you are in is beneficial to this type of unit
    and also to you.
    My location did not turn out so good . However I have been working to overcome that deficiency for a good while now and will continue to do so.

    I will always wish the VERY BEST to you!!!! keep doing the good things and it will happen!

    thanks for you comments!

    Respectfully,

    Clarence
    Hello Clarence and All,

    just an update:

    this is my toroid core exactly as Clarence describe it!! the photo is taken before i start the winding process.. i am using 0.315mm in diameter of copper wire, that just what i have.

    I will report you my adventure!! this definitly encourage me Sir.


    Thank You So much!!

    Best Regards
    luc2010
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  • clarence
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    Toroid amps always are the same

    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post

    Hey Clarence

    My pleasure Sir.

    Okay I see 109 amps. That is a huge figure. I am not as
    close to this work as you are Clarence so when I look at
    this with a conventional mind I immediately say that this
    circuit is very bizarre.

    But when I look at this circuit outside the box I think that
    YOU see what the 109 amps represents in terms of available
    energy as you have done a Captor before other ways.

    I assume these numbers are idling amps for the TOROID.

    The larger awg wire circling the outer Dia. of the toroid.

    Wow this is very different. I'll have to give this some thought.

    Thanks for being so open share.



    HelloBroMikey,

    with respect to the toroid amperage BOTH of my toroids TOGETHER are ALWAYS at idle and only consume .08 to .3+- amps ( the variation
    depending upon whether or not they are in or out of saturation - and they do that off and on continually while in use) . they NEVER go over that amount
    regardless of whatever the rest of the unit is doing. never.

    once they start doing their job they are CONTENT to just sit there forever
    as if they were on vacation. that I have always liked about them.
    small but powerful!
    ALSO BRO. the reason I was so adamant about making only ONE WRAP around the blank part of the toroid is because I tried making my usual 2 1/2 wraps
    as I did on my unit and when I eventually turned the unit on with my AMP meter clamped in place the amperage on the clamp meter immediately went to 280 AMPS!
    and the cable went HOT BIGTIME ALSO!!!!! so I shut it off and re worked the cable through the center of the toroid !
    So if you think 109 + amps is HUGH think again, and still only at .o8 amp to the toroid!

    thanks again for listening!

    respectfully,

    Clarence
    Last edited by clarence; 03-26-2016, 11:20 PM.

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  • clarence
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    You are one of the reasons

    Originally posted by luc2010 View Post
    Hello,

    luc2010 from West Africa here!!

    NICE PHOTOS Sir!!

    I will give it a try and see...

    using 500gram of copper wire 0.315 mm in diameter for the primary coil?



    Best Regards
    luc2010
    luc2010
    Hello luc2010,

    you are one of the reasons why I put this information out there.
    many have been asking about how to do the one toroid with the one Barbosa & Leal Captor Coil and THIS is not my setup. It is strictly the same thing they built and used and are STILL using.
    SO be SURE to always refer back to this information and build and construct
    every thing exactly as you see it! do NOT deviate from their method or you will screw up.

    I am aware that you are in the process of building your own toroid with the same type of blank salvaged stator as they used. I also know that you are doing things this way because the cost and availability in your country of
    Africa are prohibitive . my hat is off to you SIR and the many others just like you.
    I do also hope that the location you are in is beneficial to this type of unit
    and also to you.
    My location did not turn out so good . However I have been working to overcome that deficiency for a good while now and will continue to do so.

    I will always wish the VERY BEST to you!!!! keep doing the good things and it will happen!

    thanks for you comments!

    Respectfully,

    Clarence
    Last edited by clarence; 03-26-2016, 10:04 PM.

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  • BroMikey
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    I am digging around and saw I missed these also. Wow that
    is a bunch of beautiful ART WORK.


    You may now delete your online stash.














    Last edited by BroMikey; 03-26-2016, 10:04 PM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by clarence View Post
    Hello BroMikey,

    that's awesome with those pics doing like that ,
    thanks as always! Clarence

    Hey Clarence

    My pleasure Sir.

    Okay I see 109 amps. That is a huge figure. I am not as
    close to this work as you are Clarence so when I look at
    this with a conventional mind I immediately say that this
    circuit is very bizarre.

    But when I look at this circuit outside the box I think that
    YOU see what the 109 amps represents in terms of available
    energy as you have done a Captor before other ways.

    I assume these numbers are idling amps for the TOROID.

    The larger awg wire circling the outer Dia. of the toroid.

    Wow this is very different. I'll have to give this some thought.

    Thanks for being so open share.



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  • clarence
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    Hello BroMikey,

    that's awesome with those pics doing like that ,
    thanks as always! Clarence

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  • BroMikey
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    Hi Clarence

    I have been running around again like a chicken
    with his head cut off and it was good o see all of
    your hard core experimenting.

    I will comment in time. First let me upload your pictures
    to my website. Okay it is done. You can delete your stash
    as it will only hold a few pictures but my tiny website
    will handle every bodies.

    I had promised to do that for those who have foto's
    of their work and don't want to have to delete all
    of their other work.

    I forget what I got for free, it was something like
    a couple dozen shots and if the file size was not
    crunched down I filled my stash right away.

    Now I just dump everything on my site so it is not
    lost. Large of small, I have a huge area that will never
    be used up. Then you have to do other things.

    Never mind that just let me know when you want it done.

    Her she is, links can be manipulated to print text in between.

    At your service
































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  • luc2010
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    Originally posted by clarence View Post
    Hello BroMikey ,

    here's the rest of the photos.

    Thanks,

    Clarence
    Hello,

    luc2010 from West Africa here!!

    NICE PHOTOS Sir!!

    I will give it a try and see...

    using 500gram of copper wire 0.315 mm in diameter for the primary coil?



    Best Regards
    luc2010
    luc2010

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  • clarence
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    More info

    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
    Hey Clarence

    Thanks for the nice foto,

    Right click on the picture and select "COPY IMAGE LOCATION"

    Tell me more.

    Hello BroMikey ,

    here's the rest of the photos.

    Thanks,

    Clarence
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  • clarence
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    INFORMATION FOR CONSTRUCTION OF SINGLE TOROID with SINGLE CAPTOR COIL

    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
    Hey Clarence

    Thanks for the nice foto,

    Right click on the picture and select "COPY IMAGE LOCATION"

    Tell me more.

    Hello BroMikey,

    still did not understand your CLICK AND COPY to have a photo to stay at the TOP and visible to see ABOVE all the message words?? but OH WELL -
    since you have already done it here I will go ahead and use it to the members and your advantage!!!! pull up a chair and get comfy - it's a long SOB! and eleven Photos. only six on this reply as that' all allowed on this posting - rest immediately following on another posting (Forum rules)!

    Here goes:
    1. in the schematic the Black and Blue input wires you see would be coming
    from the SMALL size CAPTOR which I have! 12KW unit (if I had the
    magnetic ground potential anomaly to enable it - which I don't have because of my location) which is the initial unit B&L used to POWER the OTHER TWO
    LARGER units. a 25KW and a 50 to 100KW unit. the 25KW unit is the one I am explaining now! onward.
    2. the first thing you see at the end of the BLACK input lead is just a normal type household circuit breaker! it is rated for ONLY HALF of the maximum
    output amperage the unit is capable of producing. they used this value
    rating so as not to OVERLOAD their unit!
    3.the next thing you see attached to the RED lead and located NEXT to the circuit breaker is a GDT( gas discharge tube)/VARACTER/LIGHTNING SURGE SUPPRESSOR. either of the three will serve the same purpose.
    4. the next thing you see is the SMALL green lead connected to the GDT/etc.
    this actually does supply HOT voltage to the LARGE GREEN GROUND WIRE
    and also serves as the POLARIZING wire for the circuit AND a NEUTRAL
    EARTH GROUND ROD SYSTEM RETURN line for the circuit - ALL at the same time. Busy! in the event of a SURGE from the EARTH - everything shuts down. NEAT!
    5. the next thing you see is the LARGE GREEN EARTH GROUND wire make a SINGLE WRAP around ONLY ONE of the (close to center turn) turns of the CAPTOR COIL. the CAPTOR COIL induces it AMPERAGE ABILITY HERE
    at this point!
    6. the next thing you see connected to the RED LEAD wire is the connection to the TOROID PRIMARY connection AND THEN ON TO SERVE AS THE CAPTOR HOT OUTPUT.
    7. the BLUE INPUT LEAD IS CONNECTED TO THE TOROID NEUTRAL wire.
    8. the next thing you will see is the CAPTOR WINDINGS. it is 7 (seven)
    feet of # 1 ought tinned stranded copper cable( from PACERGROUP ).
    it is five to six turns (closer to six) and the ends are connected by a COPPER SPLIT BOLT connector.
    the BOTTOM TURN is the ONLY one that passes THROUGH the TOROID
    CENTER ( does NOT WRAP - IF any silly so-and-so starts making WPAPS
    the WHOLE COIL will VAPORIZE! be WARNED! DO NOT DO THAT!)
    NOTE: the TORoid only uses .08 amps which will turn the CAPTOR COIL
    with ONLY that mere amps into a coil that bcan produce 1000 to 2000
    amps and you damn well won't like it! P-O-O-F!!!
    9. the CT marking near the CAPTOR COIL end connection denotes TWO
    separate pizzeo transducers (available on line) . one sends its values to a
    digital amp meter (available on line) and the other sends it values to a
    voltage meter ( available on line ).
    10. as you can see, each of the meters are powered by the BLACK and BLUE
    source leads at the top of the schematic.
    11. POINT OF INTEREST: I used a 40 watt refrigerator bulb to purposely demonstrate the minute amperage that is needed to energize the particular CAPTOR COIL UNIT. the kil-a-watt meter in the photo shows .38 amps
    for the WHOLE CIRCUIT! the 40 watt bulb uses .30 amps - that means that the TOROID only uses .08 amps to produce (in this case) 109+- amps.
    and that will NOT INCREASE no matter how much amperage the the CAPTOR COIL induces into the GROUND ROD SYSTEM!

    Now I will attach only six of the photos I made. Forum allows only that many at this time. rest will immediately follow.

    Thanks for listening!
    ENJOY!

    respectfully,

    Clarence
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    Last edited by clarence; 03-26-2016, 04:21 PM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Hey Clarence

    Thanks for the nice foto,

    Right click on the picture and select "COPY IMAGE LOCATION"

    Tell me more.

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  • BroMikey
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    Tbc

    Man experiments with TBC a.k.a. (TESLA BIFILAR COIL)
    by inducting energy from an induction cooker at 20khz

    He says he used a smaller version that operated at 140 volts
    but the one you see in this video is a little bigger operates
    at 1500 volts.

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zlBsDE4rEs[/VIDEO]

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  • BroMikey
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    Nicely done coil set and thanks again for the experimental
    update on what have found, step by step.

    It seems like tuning experiments will teach us all something.
    The TPC and the TBC are very interest yet different. One is
    centered on voltage? And the other amps?

    Well I thought these coils word all about getting up to a
    high voltage fast with only a few turns. There really is so much
    to evaluate with the GEGENE. The original GEGENE uses a
    higher toggling voltage on the ZVS with computer controls
    of course.

    And it seems only light bulbs were used and resistance so that
    when the high voltage hit a bank of lights all strung up in series
    the TPC that produced the dramatic increased voltage from 20vdc
    ZVS was able to produce a higher output than input.

    I was thinking that this increase in output was due to the HV
    that reduced losses because large amp flows were not present.

    The advantage is the reduced losses using HV causing the
    lights to burn very brightly, just as bright as when running
    on conventional power yet costing far less on the input.

    To accomplish the original HV a thinner wire but longer
    was used, maybe to reach 1000 volts? Not sure on that
    however it would have to be very high voltage so watch
    out for those putting that on a scope.

    Some maintain that only lights show the increase.

    Not to say that a little bit smaller voltage out put does not
    deserve just as much experimental attention as other designs
    have revealed.
    Last edited by BroMikey; 03-21-2016, 01:39 AM.

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