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  • Originally posted by clarence View Post
    Wantomake,

    This is the finished product.
    Will do some tests on it tomorrow
    to see if it was worth the effort.

    Hope yours is easy to get done brother!
    Hope the same for you too fer123.

    Sincerely,

    Clarence
    Clarence,
    Me too on the effort part. I've been disappointed many times with builds that didn't produce. But I guess it's part of this FE journey to set us all free.

    Thanks for the encouragement I hope so too.

    I'll have this Kindle tablet close so I can check in.
    wantomake
    Last edited by wantomake; 05-11-2017, 12:24 PM.

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    • Small tests

      Originally posted by wantomake View Post
      Clarence,
      Me too on the effort part. I've been disappointed many times with builds that didn't produce. But I guess it's part of this FE journey to set us all free.

      Thanks for the encouragement I hope so too.

      I'll have this Kindle tablet close so I can check in.
      wantomake
      Wantomake,

      Checked coil continuity and was good.
      Checked coil ohms and was 2.9 ohms - the unit Arivaldo broke down
      and made measurements on years back - his coil ohm reading was 3 ohms
      with 600 turns so don't see any earth shaking difference in that.
      Checked the coils inductance reading and it was .154 Henry .
      The Arivaldo unit was .21 Henry and B&L told him it should be tween .060
      to .080 Henry. The difference in all is due to the particular metal and shape and dimensions of the core - mine is somewhere in the middle so I'm not
      upset about that reading either.

      When I started to set the toroid unit in place to get my whole unit ready for testing I saw that I will have stabilize and strengthen the input and output
      leads with # 10 wire and strong heat shrink tube cause the 20 AWG mag wire wont handle much abuse for sure.

      A lot more other daily needs and farm work have priority right now so testing and results will take back seat at present.

      Till Later,

      Clarence

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      • Update

        Originally posted by clarence View Post
        Wantomake,

        Checked coil continuity and was good.
        Checked coil ohms and was 2.9 ohms - the unit Arivaldo broke down
        and made measurements on years back - his coil ohm reading was 3 ohms
        with 600 turns so don't see any earth shaking difference in that.
        Checked the coils inductance reading and it was .154 Henry .
        The Arivaldo unit was .21 Henry and B&L told him it should be tween .060
        to .080 Henry. The difference in all is due to the particular metal and shape and dimensions of the core - mine is somewhere in the middle so I'm not
        upset about that reading either.

        When I started to set the toroid unit in place to get my whole unit ready for testing I saw that I will have stabilize and strengthen the input and output
        leads with # 10 wire and strong heat shrink tube cause the 20 AWG mag wire wont handle much abuse for sure.

        A lot more other daily needs and farm work have priority right now so testing and results will take back seat at present.

        Till Later,

        Clarence
        Clarence,
        Will post all these readings as soon as I can. Need to wrap the toroid and see what happens.

        So we are pulsing low voltage dc or hv dc. Do need to test and find out. I guess the same setup as before using the ground grid input and output.

        I totally have so many life things holding me back also. Really is easiest to stay in experimental mindset and continue building day to day. That's why I keep notes. I must to not repeat myself.

        Still at it,
        wantomake

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        • Information

          Originally posted by wantomake View Post
          Clarence,
          Will post all these readings as soon as I can. Need to wrap the toroid and see what happens.

          So we are pulsing low voltage dc or hv dc. Do need to test and find out. I guess the same setup as before using the ground grid input and output.

          I totally have so many life things holding me back also. Really is easiest to stay in experimental mindset and continue building day to day. That's why I keep notes. I must to not repeat myself.

          Still at it,
          wantomake
          Wantomake,

          Your main work right now is to get the 660 turns on the toroid core. Do not attempt to get in a hurry with it - it will teach you how to do it as you go.
          And please..please..at the 330 turn point DO NOT FAIL TO MAKE THE SMALL
          LOOP IN THE WIRE at that point !!! I have not elaborated on that as yet
          but it is/and will be very important.
          Some people might say that they don't see any thing like that in previous photo views of the actual wound toroid coil built by Barbosa & leal (referring to the Arivaldo tear down photos). ........ Well it IS THERE LOOKING
          THEM RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!! It is also referred to indirectly by Barbosa
          & Leal In their Sales Demo presentation wording in the TRANSLATION LINK
          INFO I sent to you by E-mail. More on that latter when it becomes appropriate.

          Also forget about the pulsing of DC voltage for now.
          Have Spent the Last week and more going back and documenting all the steps and components needed and involved in the Initial start up and
          subsequent full time running of the unit as a complete system.
          It is totally different than most believe.
          I will send you an e-mail late tonight or tomorrow night showing a complete
          number by number outline of the steps involved in an Initial thru Full time
          run outline.
          When you get it save and print it.

          Also their is no input and output to the ground rod system. The voltage that is in the earth is ALREADY there - this system only DRAWS it out.
          (Translation Statement in the Thumbnail)

          As you said brother - no time for dilly or dally (time wasting twins).

          Clarence
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          • Outstanding !!!

            Originally posted by clarence View Post
            Wantomake,

            Your main work right now is to get the 660 turns on the toroid core. Do not attempt to get in a hurry with it - it will teach you how to do it as you go.
            And please..please..at the 330 turn point DO NOT FAIL TO MAKE THE SMALL
            LOOP IN THE WIRE at that point !!! I have not elaborated on that as yet
            but it is/and will be very important.
            Some people might say that they don't see any thing like that in previous photo views of the actual wound toroid coil built by Barbosa & leal (referring to the Arivaldo tear down photos). ........ Well it IS THERE LOOKING
            THEM RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!! It is also referred to indirectly by Barbosa
            & Leal In their Sales Demo presentation wording in the TRANSLATION LINK
            INFO I sent to you by E-mail. More on that latter when it becomes appropriate.

            Also forget about the pulsing of DC voltage for now.
            Have Spent the Last week and more going back and documenting all the steps and components needed and involved in the Initial start up and
            subsequent full time running of the unit as a complete system.
            It is totally different than most believe.
            I will send you an e-mail late tonight or tomorrow night showing a complete
            number by number outline of the steps involved in an Initial thru Full time
            run outline.
            When you get it save and print it.

            Also their is no input and output to the ground rod system. The voltage that is in the earth is ALREADY there - this system only DRAWS it out.
            (Translation Statement in the Thumbnail)

            As you said brother - no time for dilly or dally (time wasting twins).

            Clarence
            Clarence,
            Yes I will start the winding today. Finally got the wire in. I do have everything we email on my tablet. So can refer back to your notes.

            I can't see that in those photos either, but those tear down photos are hard to make out to me.

            I've always thought this system draws out energy from mother earth as I look at it.

            Will focus on steps before me and will keep eye out for your E this evening or tomorrow.

            At work so can't post much. Those twins always get me in trouble.......
            wantomake

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            • Take a look at the yellow circles

              Originally posted by wantomake View Post
              Clarence,
              Yes I will start the winding today. Finally got the wire in. I do have everything we email on my tablet. So can refer back to your notes.

              I can't see that in those photos either, but those tear down photos are hard to make out to me.

              I've always thought this system draws out energy from mother earth as I look at it.

              Will focus on steps before me and will keep eye out for your E this evening or tomorrow.

              At work so can't post much. Those twins always get me in trouble.......
              wantomake
              Wantomake,

              In the two thumbnails below the yellow circles show the coil connections
              to the # 20 mag wire of their coil. one set of connections used spiral
              twist lock connectors and the other set was solder with black heat shrink.

              No biggy but things are there if you know what to look for.
              Best wishes on the winding brother.

              Later,

              Clarence
              Attached Files

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              • Pic

                Clarence,
                This is the first layer. All I can do for now.

                IMG_0600.JPG

                wantomake
                PS: Really want to finish this. Only got 260 turns on first layer. But did make the loop at the end. Will look at your pics you just posted.
                Last edited by wantomake; 05-13-2017, 12:33 AM.

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                • Originally posted by clarence View Post
                  Wantomake,

                  In the two thumbnails below the yellow circles show the coil connections
                  to the # 20 mag wire of their coil. one set of connections used spiral
                  twist lock connectors and the other set was solder with black heat shrink.

                  No biggy but things are there if you know what to look for.
                  Best wishes on the winding brother.

                  Later,

                  Clarence
                  Clarence,
                  What I see in that pic of the coil is several bifilar wires. Across on the other side of the coil. Enlarge the picture and you can see them. Opposite the place you circled.

                  Or my eyes are bad,
                  wantomake

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                  • That is a bifilar connection

                    Originally posted by wantomake View Post
                    Clarence,
                    What I see in that pic of the coil is several bifilar wires. Across on the other side of the coil. Enlarge the picture and you can see them. Opposite the place you circled.

                    Or my eyes are bad,
                    wantomake
                    Wantomake ,

                    That IS a bifilar connection of TWQ wires.
                    That is the mid point of their 660 turns this - is why
                    you need to make the loop I told you about. Later the loop will be cut and the bifilar connections made involving the start an finish ends of the whole coil.

                    PLEASE NOTE that the LOOP must be made at MID POINT!!!! Which is 330
                    TURNS - NOT 206 turns!!!!
                    Do not be concerned WHERE THE LOOP IS LOCATED! That is immaterial.

                    Thanks,

                    Clarence

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                    • Originally posted by clarence View Post
                      Wantomake ,

                      That IS a bifilar connection of TWQ wires.
                      That is the mid point of their 660 turns this - is why
                      you need to make the loop I told you about. Later the loop will be cut and the bifilar connections made involving the start an finish ends of the whole coil.

                      PLEASE NOTE that the LOOP must be made at MID POINT!!!! Which is 330
                      TURNS - NOT 206 turns!!!!
                      Do not be concerned WHERE THE LOOP IS LOCATED! That is immaterial.

                      Thanks,

                      Clarence
                      Clarence,
                      So I start layer #2 in opposite direction until I get to 330 turns, then make loop there ? Then continue winding back and forth until 660 turns?

                      My first layer was 260 turns not 206.
                      wantomake

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                      • Reason for bifilar connection

                        Wantomake,

                        Even though this coil will only be pulsed by DC VOLTAGE - It is necessary to have the voltage characteristic KILLED in order to leave ONLY THE AMPERAGE
                        characteristic still available!
                        It is called removing the LENZ effect (BEMF) from the coil circuit.
                        In the Translation dialogue of the Demo they made they referred to it as
                        "BREAK THE RESISTANCE" and enable them to have higher amperage output by their devices.

                        Did not intend to get into all the discussion now but Cat's out of the bag
                        so might as well get it on.

                        What other questions you got That I might answer? I'm Ready.

                        BTW: you do some NICE WINDING yourself !!!!

                        Thanks,

                        Clarence
                        Last edited by clarence; 05-13-2017, 02:20 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by wantomake View Post
                          Clarence,
                          So I start layer #2 in opposite direction until I get to 330 turns, then make loop there ? Then continue winding back and forth until 660 turns?

                          My first layer was 260 turns not 206.
                          wantomake
                          Wantomake,


                          Yep! MY BAD on the numbers but yes - continue on till the 330 and then make the loop.

                          As I said in the BTW you do some nice winding brother!
                          Hope it gets easier for you!
                          When you get thru with all turns - might as well do the bifilar connecting
                          before final Lead make up!
                          When you reach the 660 turns position (wherever it winds up) please leave
                          enough extra wire length to get back to the loop position and be able to
                          make a solder connection (best way). Probably add heat shrink for EXTRA
                          insulation (I think that that was what the orange looking stuff was?)

                          Thanks,

                          Clarence
                          Last edited by clarence; 05-13-2017, 02:52 AM.

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                          • Ready to install

                            Wantomake,


                            Made the Bifilar connections and the lead connections.
                            Ready to install.

                            How Ya doin?

                            Later,

                            Clarence
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                            • Originally posted by clarence View Post
                              Wantomake,


                              Made the Bifilar connections and the lead connections.
                              Ready to install.

                              How Ya doin?

                              Later,

                              Clarence
                              Clarence,
                              Somebody's burning midnight oil !! Looks too good to use. I'm very excited to see what happens.

                              Just coffeeing my brains awake planning the day. If I get home early am, will finish core by this afternoon.

                              So you connected the core series bifilar. Very interesting.

                              wantomake

                              Will you make the big reveal here or by e-mail?

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                              • Finished the core

                                Clarence,
                                Just finished winding the core. I sent you an e-mail with pictures cause my brains and hands are tired and don't want to post pictures here tonight.

                                Got 3.8 ohms on it. My core is longer at 2" so more wire. It worked out good with the 660 turns and bifilar series connected.

                                Will try to post pictures tomorrow but will be very busy with it being Mother's Day and all.

                                wantomake

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