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  • Originally posted by wantomake View Post
    Digits10,
    All help is welcomed here. I follow what Clarence is putting together. He's working on the toriod secondary winding as far as I've read. I don't know if this still is necessary anymore or not, but check your area geomagnetic nT values. Just Google it and take note of the area you live in. With the old setup I was able to get some, not much, return from the ground rods I have in place so far. I only have a few like 4 input rods and 1 return rod. I could light a low watt cfl and power the smart battery charger over night and only lost a few tenths of a volt from my solar battery bank. Of course I removed the B & L setup from the loop and found that it will do the same with just the inverter connected to the rods.

    Just word of caution, be careful with this setup. Make sure it's off before adding or touching any ground rods. I know cause this is same rods used to grid ground homes. Inverter has same danger as mains power lines. Has made me dance a few times myself. Lol.

    Of course we are trying a different setup per Clarence and his instructions.

    wantomake
    Wantomake,

    My purchases came in so I finished the toroid secondary Bifilar revision
    this afternoon. Tomorrow will be testing day. Will use the MAINS method
    first as that's what the revision is all about.
    So I want everyone to give me some time space while I go over the results.
    They may be good, half good, no good - time will tell. Thanks.

    Thanks wantomake,

    Clarence

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    • Clarence,
      I have my finger on the order button for the magnet wire. But will wait to see your results. Then maybe I can help test and understand with a toroid setup as you have. Cause one thing important to get good test with results is everyone be on same replication blue print.

      With respect and patience,
      wantomake

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      • Originally posted by wantomake View Post
        Clarence,
        I have my finger on the order button for the magnet wire. But will wait to see your results. Then maybe I can help test and understand with a toroid setup as you have. Cause one thing important to get good test with results is everyone be on same replication blue print.

        With respect and patience,
        wantomake
        Wantomake,

        You can take your finger off the order button.
        So far That did not make a difference .
        The question still is how to effect the connection to ground without having the secondary throwing its load ability back on the primary coil. When the primary gets loaded by the secondary that's when the utility meter starts registering energy used. Their units primary never was loaded by their secondary at all. It always showed 0.10 amps. How they managed to do that is what we are trying to find out here.

        Everyone gets themselves sidetracked about the damn ground voltage.
        That is the least thing to be concerned with. EVERY Utility PUMPS it into the ground every second of every day. If it wasn't there they would not be in business. Again the total effort to be concerned with is H O W D I D
        T H E Y E X T R A C T I T !
        That's what I am working on. It was real simple for sure and the only equipment the used was simple and so basic it shoots right over everybody's
        heads. All the mishmash about other components and different frequency's
        and this thing and that thing are wasted thoughts.
        The only items to be focused on are the ones they had in their little boxes.

        The little diagram I showed you is what I am using right now and other than the secondary still back loading the primary I'm still at it.
        The one thing I have noticed so far is that the grounding being attached in that circuit sure put some brilliance in the CFLs and heat bulbs I used. Back at it.
        Much later on I'm pretty sure.

        Thanks,

        Clarence
        Last edited by clarence; 04-05-2017, 01:22 AM.

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        • Originally posted by clarence View Post
          Wantomake,

          You can take your finger off the order button.
          So far That did not make a difference .
          The question still is how to effect the connection to ground without having the secondary throwing its load ability back on the primary coil. When the primary gets loaded by the secondary that's when the utility meter starts registering energy used. Their units primary never was loaded by their secondary at all. It always showed 0.10 amps. How they managed to do that is what we are trying to find out here.

          Everyone gets themselves sidetracked about the damn ground voltage.
          That is the least thing to be concerned with. EVERY Utility PUMPS it into the ground every second of every day. If it wasn't there they would not be in business. Again the total effort to be concerned with is H O W D I D
          T H E Y E X T R A C T I T !
          That's what I am working on. It was real simple for sure and the only equipment the used was simple and so basic it shoots right over everybody's
          heads. All the mishmash about other components and different frequency's
          and this thing and that thing are wasted thoughts.
          The only items to be focused on are the ones they had in their little boxes.

          The little diagram I showed you is what I am using right now and other than the secondary still back loading the primary I'm still at it.
          The one thing I have noticed so far is that the grounding being attached in that circuit sure put some brilliance in the CFLs and heat bulbs I used. Back at it.
          Much later on I'm pretty sure.

          Thanks,

          Clarence
          Hey Clarence,
          Well I was ready to order but ok.
          Different note same subject. I was unaware of the SWER system in other countries and I think in parts of the US. That would be very easy to build a transformer with ground return to "harvest" the return because the SWER sends the hot side down into the earth and all they need to do is reclaim it with many rods and transform it back into usable energy. Sorry Clarence I'm slow sometmes in my studying all these many aspects of FREE Energy.

          Thanks for your e-mail on that by the way. So all those on overunity didn't catch that fact? So can we still "extract" anything? I really need to look at this differently than my first understanding of "earth energy".

          I still want to understand more,
          wantomake

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          • Originally posted by wantomake View Post
            Hey Clarence,

            I still want to understand more,
            wantomake
            Wantomake,

            Understand.
            Have to take a break for a day or two to catch up on home,farm,animals and
            tons of all other things.

            The answer to all of the mystery of this unit lies in the method of using and connecting their DIY toroid transformer which has a primary wind AND a secondary wind.
            I have learned that NEITHER ONE can be used as an inductive transfer devise
            as doing that would back load that wind. That wind would then require more amperage to handle the back load.
            The meter reading for amps on their toroid power input ALWAYS remained constant at 0,i amps. THE-ONLY -WAY-That-CAN-HAPPEN-IS-NO-BACK-LOAD!
            NEVER-EVER!
            So then how do you prevent the possibility of a back load? Answer is super simple - power BOTH WINDS. (please do not say that makes makes them
            bucking coils - I TOTALLY DESPISE that dumb ass terminology).
            In this particular instance it makes them BOTH inductive winds by means of the transformer core.
            So now we have a really nice induction means - what to do with it? (AND NOT INCREASE
            THE AMPERAGE on EITHER WIND).
            Well here comes that big ole black 1 ought wire poking ONE time through that inductive core!!!

            More later - I really have to get to work here or I just get farther behind.

            Thanks for listening Wantomake.

            Regards,

            Clarence
            Last edited by clarence; 04-06-2017, 04:08 AM.

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            • toroid wind

              Hello Mr Clarence and All.

              The construction of the toroid look complicate but what I can see after long time decoding that picture is on top of the primary is two bucking coils, when you see the toroid picture from the center left two wire connected together and look one wire only for left and only one wire for right, the end two wires one is connected to blue?? going to load ,and other?? big question. They do the winding to be confuse whit bifilar coils but I don't thing so. Best wish.
              Last edited by fer123; 04-06-2017, 03:27 PM.

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              • Originally posted by fer123 View Post
                Hello Mr Clarence and All.

                The construction of the toroid look complicate but what I can see after long time decoding that picture is on top of the primary is two bucking coils, when you see the toroid picture from the center left two wire connected together and look one wire only for left and only one wire for right, the end two wires one is connected to blue?? going to load ,and other?? big question. They do the winding to be confuse whit bifilar coils but I don't thing so. Best wish.
                Hello,

                Please read my post again - I said they are NOT BUCKING COILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                THANK YOU!

                Regards

                Clarence

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                • Wasn't looking for it but I came across an article written in Portuguese. Figured it may add some information.


                  Marcelo Trindade: Destaque

                  Here is a quote from the article.
                  According to Cleriston Leal, the ground wire always negatively charged causes repulsion, and attraction if connected to the equipment. The captor draws the electrons of the earth through the wires, producing energy in the scale of 1x100, consumption equal to one and capture equal to 100. All consumption returns to the cycle or, depending on ....
                  Don't recall that in the patent but it's been awhile for me. Hope it helps, good luck gents.

                  Core

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                  • Here is another quote from the article.

                    "In our equipment, we were able to break the resistance of the conductor, which would only support 200 amps, and went on to withstand 400 amperes of power at normal temperature. The current circulating inside the captor is apparent and real. In this current there is no loss because there is no transformation and the power is equal to the current, "explained Nilson Barbosa.
                    In the mode of capture of energy from the air, the principle of the captors is the same, only taking into account that it is mobile. It is not connected to grounding.

                    Has anyone come across these quotes?

                    Core

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                    • There are no quotes in the box

                      Originally posted by Core View Post
                      Here is another quote from the article.




                      Has anyone come across these quotes?

                      Core
                      There are no quotes in the box. Only wires, wound toroid,and connections.
                      If it doesn't work with just those - then what should it be called: ? ..

                      Thanks any way.

                      Regards,

                      Clarence

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                      • Originally posted by Core View Post
                        Wasn't looking for it but I came across an article written in Portuguese. Figured it may add some information.


                        Marcelo Trindade: Destaque

                        Here is a quote from the article.


                        Don't recall that in the patent but it's been awhile for me. Hope it helps, good luck gents.

                        Core
                        Core,
                        Thanks for the very interesting quotes. Can provide the link for the entire article in english?

                        Very interesting and want to know for sure if there's more to this or not.

                        Thanks if you can,
                        wantomake

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                        • Originally posted by wantomake View Post
                          Core,
                          Thanks for the very interesting quotes. Can provide the link for the entire article in english?

                          Very interesting and want to know for sure if there's more to this or not.

                          Thanks if you can,
                          wantomake

                          Wantomake ,

                          Check your E-mail the translation is already there.

                          Still nothing as far as good results - will still be working at it.
                          Thanks!

                          Good reading.

                          Regards,

                          Clarence

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                          • Originally posted by wantomake View Post
                            Hey Clarence,
                            I still want to understand more,
                            wantomake
                            Wantomake,

                            Have been at it for a while now - made lots of different conceivable
                            connections and I mean bunches.
                            All with no good results. This devise was said to get its energy from the ground
                            and also said to be self running. So far it's definite neither one of those things are happening.

                            Sooooooooo I am going to back off for awhile (how long? who knows?) and take some time and do a lot of review and added research till I can find the
                            answer. Just missing it somewhere, maybe location after all?, just really need to find out.

                            Much later on!

                            Respectfuly,

                            Clarence

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                            • Need anything?

                              Is there anything you need that would help with your research and progress? I might be able to help.

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                              • Time needed-nohelp

                                Originally posted by digits10 View Post
                                Is there anything you need that would help with your research and progress? I might be able to help.
                                Hello,

                                No I don't need help.
                                Thanks for the offer for sure!
                                All I need is the time to correct some
                                big ass mistakes.
                                BY that that I mean that ALL posts made
                                by me from beginning of thread time contain
                                lots of info that will soon be made obsolete.
                                So either hang on or do as you wish.
                                Also no offense meant either - to me straight truth
                                should prevail -some like it and some don't.

                                Respectfully,

                                Clarence

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