Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[BroMikey]

Hello BroMikey,

I really like the way you cover all the in's and out's about the information you pass!

It lets the members easily wrap their noodles around what is being put across!
also points outs advantages and disadvantages when trying to do things!!

NEAT BRO! really neat!
thanks again, as Always!

Respects,

Clarence

Thanks Again Clarence

Look at this latest post from Marc B. on resonant coils like what Don
Smith did as it relates to Tesla's tuning work. I don't know how this
may apply to tuning other coils but it hit home for me.

http://www.energeticforum.com/286021-post10617.html

[clarence]

Good info explanation for all to understand

Hello BroMikey,

I really like the way you cover all the in's and out's about the information you pass!

It lets the members easily wrap their noodles around what is being put across!
also points outs advantages and disadvantages when trying to do things!!

NEAT BRO! really neat!
thanks again, as Always!

Respects,

Clarence

[BroMikey]

Hello Bro,

parts will be ordered 2/17 for the Fast diodes and PWM that we discussed - shipping time ?, who knows !
may post results by 2/24? as always - depends!
will see.

thanks Bro,

Respects,

Clarence

Hello Clarence

I see you are getting it all tuned up and fitted with better diodes.
Nice work, I can't wait to see your progress. That PWM is cool
it is a switch mode device for charging batteries.

The new battery charger and charge controllers for solar are
everywhere, glad you could find and off the shelf unit that
saves on power for zapping your batteries.

Those new off the shelf chargers for charging batteries will
step down the voltage a little so you can keep a happy battery.
This is called a "BUCK CONVERTER". All your solar panels
put out only 17vdc and you put two of them in series that would
be 34vdc but on a cloudy day it might not put out enough so
converters save the day.

I know you are not using solar panels or scooter parts but if
people want to find these converter they can do a search
in the solar stuff called "CHARGE CONTROLLER" this will get
you to where you want. Or you could search for scooter
converters and there you will find battery charging converters
that don't work off the AC grid tie.

So while I know you are not connecting any solar panels up
to your rig if people want to replicate what is coming, they
can search in solar battery chargers or controllers.

I knew these modules were there but could not find them
every time I went to look because I didn't use the right
search terms.

"DC to DC" step down converters" let you take DC voltage
like 80vdc and send it down lower without wasting. Another
important detail for buying converter or inverter modules is that
after you find where they are, make sure you buy one big enough
so that you only use 30-40 percent of the chargers MAX
capacity, this will give you the greatest efficiency conversion
factor. Not to mention longevity.

I hope this disspells any confusion about the notion that Clarence
has now hooked up solar panels to his rig. He has not, I just
wanted everyone to know that many of our science projects need
circuits to help with juggling energy and the section on solar
at the EBAY stores carry these converters.

In your case you are not using this converter for the sun, rather
to converter some power off your unit sending it to this
converter to charge batteries.


You say the TBC puts out 41vac then you will rectify to dc
sending that to your "DC to DC" charge controller? That sounds
like a perfect fix.

This is a good advancement and everyone who is building
these can easily replicate.

[clarence]

Hello Bro,

parts will be ordered 2/17 for the Fast diodes and PWM that we discussed - shipping time ?, who knows !
may post results by 2/24? as always - depends!
will see.

thanks Bro,

Respects,

Clarence

[BroMikey]

Also I am including the same diagram with description.

There are so few parts to perform this battery charging
function that even I can do it.

[BroMikey]

Hey Clarence

Thanks for the update on your progress and how you are
charging a large battery with a radiant TBC open circuit
of course is always way high but that energy self regulates
but if I leave my battery unattended she smokes.

I started with this crowbar circuit that they teach in 8th grade
electronics. I almost forgot about it. All it does is take out my
resistor when I get to the right battery volts. No zener on this one.

I hope you like my caveman controller.

I hate sub miniature digital boards.

[BroMikey]

Hello BroMikey,

Been a while for sure!

I then hooked the output of the rectified dc 10.9 vdc
into the batt circuit ( in the meantime it was recharged back to
it's same previous dc voltage value) and restarted the unit again
watching the batt voltage and run time. when the batt voltage
dropped to 11 volts dc again I stopped the unit the second time.
the difference in run time was about 3-4 minutes longer with the
added rectified 10.9 vdc.
not much - but I believe it shows that the method that I am
after is definitely viable.

so for now I simply need to perfect the resistor values to give a
14.5 to 15 vdc steady rectified voltage supply and run everything
again.

All in all, still pushing forward! I also attach a photo to show how
I wound all the coils I use. the pvc pipe for the wire coil is 3/4 "
ID but the pvc pipe for the coil to wind around needs to be 1 " ID.

Thanks for listening BRO!

Respectfully,

Clarence

Wow, that is great progress MAN!!! Yes I agree and understand
that you did some dividers and got positive results, so now you
need a different resistor and or divider to get the voltage up.

That is awesome progress Clarence.

Your picture today finally made clear how you lay all of your
coils flat having so many leads on them.

Extended runtime hey it's gonna bee a sweet deal.

[clarence]

Info

Hello BroMikey,

Been a while for sure!

I have attached a couple of photos of all the coil units STACKED as they should be.
you should notice that the two inner red & black wires on the TESLA PANCAKE COIL and the TESLA BIFILAR COIL pass up through the center of the VERY TOP TBC coil which enables all of them to set perfectly flat on each other and get the full benefit of the magnetic flux energizing them. The underneath TBC coil center wires do not pose any problem so they run straight out underneath everything and connect as needed.

with respect to my work on the intended battery voltage circuit using the smaller TBC coil and its output of 50 vac to accomplish this, that work was slow and back and forth at times. the first thing I found out is that using a voltage reducing method whether by my DIY or the regular voltage divider
resistor scenario is totally undependable when applied straight to an acv
source. ACV has so damn many direction paths going on at the same time
it will work good for a while and then it abruptly changes back and forth through the added circuit components to a pathway that it likes better and then you are screwed.

I finally just went ahead and rectified the voltage and THEN added the voltage divider components. I knew that DC has ONE direction and takes the path of least resistance so I figured I could deal with that a hell of a lot easier and it proved true.

At this point I need to pass on some new information to you about rectifying
TESLA type components - coils in particular!
This particular TBC with its output of 50 vac when rectified by my valued high dollar high voltage high frequency Diodes properly FWBR connected
gave an output of 92 VDC. I am sure the conventional crowd reading this are about to have s***hemorrhage. according to their old school values it should only show 70.7 . HA HA ! Tesla always gave extra.
Oh Well.

For the voltage divider I laid aside my DIY components and decided to use the commercial high Mega ohm high watt Ohmite brand resisters since all the other forum members would have to go that route anyway.
after using several voltage divider calculators with their recommended resistor values the the RUN results would ALWAYS turn out a lower value DC output than expected. finally on the last run with a 10.9 vdc result I decided to go ahead and use DC system any way to see if it would possibly help in any way to battery - inverter system in operation. I used my 300 watt GoPower inverehooked to a 7ah 12v small battery powering a small CFL.
I checked the batt voltage and noted it and then turned the unit on and watched the batt voltage and run time. when the batt voltage dropped to 11 vdc I stopped the unit. I then hooked the output of the rectified dc 10.9 vdc
into the batt circuit ( in the meantime it was recharged back to it's same previous dc voltage value) and restarted the unit again watching the batt voltage and run time. when the batt voltage dropped to 11 volts dc again I stopped the unit the second time. the difference in run time was about 3-4 minutes longer with the added rectified 10.9 vdc.
not much - but I believe it shows that the method that I am after is definitely viable.

so for now I simply need to perfect the resistor values to give a 14.5 to 15 vdc steady rectified voltage supply and run everything again.

All in all, still pushing forward! I also attach a photo to show how I wound all the coils I use. the pvc pipe for the wire coil is 3/4 " ID but the pvc pipe for the coil to wind around needs to be 1 " ID.

Thanks for listening BRO!

Respectfully,

Clarence

[CANGAS]

Hello CANGAS,

the answer is quite simple and comes from years of experience with all three
mediums.

I dealt with grounding rod systems for many years on the farm pertaining to the miles of electric fence needed to keep the cattle and especially large bulls
contained within the multi-acre spread out pastures. I did try the Iron first and it did deteriorate a lot quicker than I thought it should and lost effectiveness.
I also tried the aluminum rod and it didn't do as good as the plain iron. it quickly made a thick coating of oxide and lost it's effectiveness also. the cooper
coated iron was the most effective and long lasting one out of them all and are still in service after many years of use'

I never used the galvanized iron rod, so that's one that I don't have experience on at all.

I personally don't like to have to use ground rods at all! to damn much effort and AND expense involved for certain and 60 of them was a GIANT pain in the butt!
that is just another one of the reasons why I have been working within the scope of the whole unit to eliminate the need for EVERYONE of them.
I already know the HOW and the DIRECTION and the METHOD to accomplish all of this but I live in the REAL WORLD and reality takes MY TIME which is limited the same as everyone! I have mounds of other work to do which is why you don't see many posts from me.

I have also learned NOT to divulge everything I know and have accomplished
because of the members on the forum who JUST CAN"T WAIT to jump on the
toilet and drop their load! their LOAD being just what you know it is!

not this week but maybe mid next week I hope to have a few more results to
post and info to give out.

Thanks for listening!

respectfully,

Clarence

Many thanks for your response. You don't know how much it encourages me.

My natural field being physical mechanisms, I quickly and easily get in over my head regarding electronic devices. I still don't even have a hazy understanding of the fundamental principle of your good work, BUT THAT DOES NOT MATTER. Results speak for themself!

I probably read but did not remember, your explanation of different ground system materials you have used and I wanted to possibly be helpful with the little bit of knowledge I have about electrochemistry and such. But you are already more than one step ahead of me. Happily so. One of the first things to come into my mind was use of copper coated iron, and you already did that, very good.

Very good to hear that your theoretical principle may not be bound to a ground system, at least not of the large scale used so far. You have my prayers and good wishes for your work in that direction. My own work, involving most often purely mechanical devices, has substantially been satisfactorily completed for a little while, awaiting now for assessment of world financial and political conditions to appear to provide a relatively safe window of opportunity and of course a clear signal from The Man that I have the green light to start to try to deliver it to humanity.

News of your work has been a delight to me because there are many circumstances in which I imagine yours to be lighter (if a ground system is not essential) and therefore more convenient to carry about. I assume that you foresee your technology could possibly be portable and mobile? (Don't give away any secrets. I can subdue my curiosity.)


Most respectfully
CANGAS

[clarence]

Past experience

Hello CANGAS,

the answer is quite simple and comes from years of experience with all three
mediums.

I dealt with grounding rod systems for many years on the farm pertaining to the miles of electric fence needed to keep the cattle and especially large bulls
contained within the multi-acre spread out pastures. I did try the Iron first and it did deteriorate a lot quicker than I thought it should and lost effectiveness.
I also tried the aluminum rod and it didn't do as good as the plain iron. it quickly made a thick coating of oxide and lost it's effectiveness also. the cooper
coated iron was the most effective and long lasting one out of them all and are still in service after many years of use'

I never used the galvanized iron rod, so that's one that I don't have experience on at all.

I personally don't like to have to use ground rods at all! to damn much effort and AND expense involved for certain and 60 of them was a GIANT pain in the butt!
that is just another one of the reasons why I have been working within the scope of the whole unit to eliminate the need for EVERYONE of them.
I already know the HOW and the DIRECTION and the METHOD to accomplish all of this but I live in the REAL WORLD and reality takes MY TIME which is limited the same as everyone! I have mounds of other work to do which is why you don't see many posts from me.

I have also learned NOT to divulge everything I know and have accomplished
because of the members on the forum who JUST CAN"T WAIT to jump on the
toilet and drop their load! their LOAD being just what you know it is!

not this week but maybe mid next week I hope to have a few more results to
post and info to give out.

Thanks for listening!

respectfully,

Clarence

[CANGAS]

Don't forget the large copper lead wire on the 60 copper rods
when you are figuring the price tag. Better go to the bank
or pray that your ship comes in.

Remind me why the ground system cannot be composed of cheaper iron or aluminum.


Your welcome
CANGAS

[BroMikey]

Shelling Out the Green Stamps

Don't forget the large copper lead wire on the 60 copper rods
when you are figuring the price tag. Better go to the bank
or pray that your ship comes in.

[fer123]

Lot of work and time invest, congratulation. Mr clarence must invest years. I will be connected and intrigue at the same time how everything will surprise us. Thanks.

[BroMikey]

Really good post, love every single parts on it, when yo talk about the 2 TPC induction coil, and 2 TBC the wire size is 10 AWG or 6AWG? I have question how will connected to the captor, I hope this altruist man will find the way. Best wish for you.

I have some additional information for all Captor Builders.
This device taps AMPS on one end and VOLTS on the other side
contrary to what we have been taught as a good power burning
topology.

The actual input voltage to the coils is a steady input of
4.17 volts to each of all the coils. the input to the large
TPC coil is 41.7 vac + from the ZVS to each of it's two sets
of 10 turn windings which makes it's magnetic flux pass
4.17 vac to all of the coils that are placed near it.



I have some pictures here for you that shows how much time
and effort this unit has taken. I have other pictures but this is
all you get today.

I really love this build

The first 3 are known as TESLA BIFILAR COILS or TBC

The very small TBC is being used as a battery charger loop.
If I have more time I would tell you about the special charging
network to lower the Battery Charing small TBC voltage so
as to regulate energy back to the source.

That is all specialized and a completely different subject to
tackle. But ya know me, I ain't-a-gonna let up.














This one is TPC or TESLA PANCAKE COIL




ALL COILS FOR STACKING

[fer123]

Really good post, love every single parts on it, when yo talk about the 2 TPC induction coil, and 2 TBC the wire size is 10 AWG or 6AWG? I still have the same question how will connected to the captor, I hope this altruistic man will find the way. Best wish for you.