Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[clarence]

Current transducer

I would say CT stands for Current Transformer (since it leads directly to an ammeter). Not sure of the rating for it though. I know there are 1:10 and 1:50 etc....but it really depends on your ammeter that you are ataching, and how many amps you plan to meter.

Hello kenssurplus,

you are correct in your assumption. they are a piezoelectric transducer
and one of them used by B&L is shown in this photo by Ariovaldo before
he destroyed the captor that he had purchased because he assumed it was a failure and was not worth having.

Actually it was a VALID unit as they ALL are, however neither B&L nor himself were aware at that time that it was the LOCATION in Florida
that was defeating it's usage!!!!

Florida's MAGNETIC MAP anomaly color code is mainly the same color as MINE! LOUSY!!!!

[kenssurplus]

I would say CT stands for Current Transformer (since it leads directly to an ammeter). Not sure of the rating for it though. I know there are 1:10 and 1:50 etc....but it really depends on your ammeter that you are ataching, and how many amps you plan to meter.

[djarno]

[QUOTE=clarence;287677]

Hello Clarence,

thanks for good work and information posted. I am trying to replicate your setup but its not clear for me where to place that spark gap or gas discharge tube. May be you have it posted but I did not see it?

Is it for the version with 2 symmetrical toroids or only the one with one toroid in place?

Thanks.

Vitalie.[/QUOTE)

Hello Vitalie,

YOU SEE IT IN THIS SCHEMATIC:



it is in the place where you see the exact same symbol as the BOURNS
two electrode GDT .

it is a plasma type device that POLARIZES the ground return system with the
HOT input wire thus enabling the ground return and the HOT input to operate as an in phase circuit and draw its amperage by means of the complete green wire (two turns) around the large BLACK wire of the CAPTOR LOOP.
It also serves as a safety device for the rest of the components that PRECEDE it !! it will BLOW OUT at 600-900 surge volts according to it's rating.

Regards,

Clarence

Where does ct stand for on the right in the picture, as an secondary toroid or?

Also just gotten 10 75v ac discharge tubes, and 230 volt is coming as well.
Gonna wire the system up, saw it working before perhaps the charged discharge tubes keeps it looping\running.

I've noticed with 9 rods I could pull 6,6 amps without pulling amps from inverter only potential (voltage ⚡)

Sincerely.

[clarence]

This one

[QUOTE=bugaian;287667]Hello Clarence,

thanks for good work and information posted. I am trying to replicate your setup but its not clear for me where to place that spark gap or gas discharge tube. May be you have it posted but I did not see it?

Is it for the version with 2 symmetrical toroids or only the one with one toroid in place?

Thanks.

Vitalie.[/QUOTE)

Hello Vitalie,

YOU SEE IT IN THIS SCHEMATIC:



it is in the place where you see the exact same symbol as the BOURNS
two electrode GDT .

it is a plasma type device that POLARIZES the ground return system with the
HOT input wire thus enabling the ground return and the HOT input to operate as an in phase circuit and draw its amperage by means of the complete green wire (two turns) around the large BLACK wire of the CAPTOR LOOP.
It also serves as a safety device for the rest of the components that PRECEDE it !! it will BLOW OUT at 600-900 surge volts according to it's rating.

Regards,

Clarence

[bugaian]

Hello luc2010,

[URL=http://s328.photobucket.com/user/Clarenc/media/GDT-GAS%20DISCHARGE%20TUBE_zpsu0xabnag.jpg.html][/URLthis is where I
get mine.

notice the symbol for a GDT is the same as the previous schematic shows!

best info source I can give for in my country!

Suggest you try same in your country!

Respectfully,

Clarence

Hello Clarence,

thanks for good work and information posted. I am trying to replicate your setup but its not clear for me where to place that spark gap or gas discharge tube. May be you have it posted but I did not see it?

Is it for the version with 2 symmetrical toroids or only the one with one toroid in place?

Thanks.

Vitalie.

[clarence]

Thanks for support

Hello Mr Clarence, It feels good to be tutored for somebody, Hope you can find something good and help us and teach that will be excellent, Wish the best and hope you find what are you looking for.

Hello fer123,

yes, learning IS good when the source of the learning comes from very
dedicated and valued fellow members.

looking forward to success no matter how long it takes.

respectfully,

Clarence

[fer123]

Hello Mr Clarence, It feels good to be tutored for somebody, Hope you can find something good and help us and teach that will be excellent, Wish the best and hope you find what are you looking for.

[clarence]

Frequency

Hello @ ALL

Have been working on method to resolve high frequency issue!

may take two to three weeks more.

Being completely tutored and instructed by a HIGHLY knowledgeable and MOST VALUED Forum member!!!!!

will get there!


Regards!

Clarence

[clarence]

Gdt

Hello Mr Clarence,

Thanks for sharing!!

i am still waiting to find before powering the unit: GDT( gas discharge tube)or VARACTER or LIGHTNING SURGE SUPPRESSOR?



Best Regards
luc2010

Hello luc2010,

[URL=http://s328.photobucket.com/user/Clarenc/media/GDT-GAS%20DISCHARGE%20TUBE_zpsu0xabnag.jpg.html][/URLthis is where I
get mine.

notice the symbol for a GDT is the same as the previous schematic shows!

best info source I can give for in my country!

Suggest you try same in your country!

Respectfully,

Clarence

[luc2010]

Hello Mr Clarence,

Thanks for sharing!!

i am still waiting to find before powering the unit: GDT( gas discharge tube)or VARACTER or LIGHTNING SURGE SUPPRESSOR?



Best Regards
luc2010

[djarno]

Hello @ ALL


I have been made aware that some member builders of the SINGLE TOROID & SINGLE CAPTOR are not using the before mentioned small N2-EH type miniature floresent bulb with it being directly connected to the GROUND ROD RETURN system
and the HOT LEG INPUT!







without that bulb or a 60 volt GDT (Gas Discharge Tube) FAILURE IS CERTAIN!
the reason being that either of those small devises IS what provides the
NECESSARY POLARIZING to the GROUND RETURN and the HOT LEG INPUT!

ANY CIRCUIT has to have a COMMON ORIGIN PATH - this is what this small device provides - B&L only put it there BECAUSE THEY FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY that it was needed!

the florescent bulb has a strike voltage of 90 volts and then quickly falls off to 61.5 volts - NO AMPERAGE - and a follow thru voltage of 0.2 volts which enables frequency and polarization!

if you want to use a GDT maybe try one with a strike voltage of 60-90 volts.
don't know about their amperage involved or follow thru voltage would be,
so you would have to look up their datasheet for that.

BEST REGARDS!

Respectfuly ,

Clarence

So with this setup you're can melt the return cables, from ground ?

[clarence]

No success without it

Hello @ ALL


I have been made aware that some member builders of the SINGLE TOROID & SINGLE CAPTOR are not using the before mentioned small N2-EH type miniature floresent bulb with it being directly connected to the GROUND ROD RETURN system
and the HOT LEG INPUT!







without that bulb or a 60 volt GDT (Gas Discharge Tube) FAILURE IS CERTAIN!
the reason being that either of those small devises IS what provides the
NECESSARY POLARIZING to the GROUND RETURN and the HOT LEG INPUT!

ANY CIRCUIT has to have a COMMON ORIGIN PATH - this is what this small device provides - B&L only put it there BECAUSE THEY FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY that it was needed!

the florescent bulb has a strike voltage of 90 volts and then quickly falls off to 61.5 volts - NO AMPERAGE - and a follow thru voltage of 0.2 volts which enables frequency and polarization!

if you want to use a GDT maybe try one with a strike voltage of 60-90 volts.
don't know about their amperage involved or follow thru voltage would be,
so you would have to look up their datasheet for that.

BEST REGARDS!

Respectfuly ,

Clarence

[BroMikey]

Hello BroMikey,

this is one of the actual pizzeo current transducers that send their values to the amp and volt meters on the inside of the panel door.



below is an actual photo of the POWER ON indicator light/SAFETY DEVICE that was used and is represented by the circle with the two black arrows and black dot inside it.






just more information for members knowledge and use.
after awhile EVERYTHING will be known about the device under study and some members are building.

Respects

Clarence

Hello Clarence and friends

This is a great plan to test for the hot spot. I see you have a
photo bucket. I remember reading that you said
something to the effect that the current/power does not
increase in the idling components regardless of how much
power you run out the other end. I love that statement.

You got a tiger by the tail there. Take it slow and cover all
points with care. I see finding the best wiring pattern for
your circuit came the hard way once or twice.

Please be careful with that awesome rig.

This is the transmission of energy wire-lessly.

Very exciting progress. Even if you have to add back the other
types of coils into the mix you are learning (And sharing it) how
these flat one respond and what their best suited for.

Of course we know that high voltage is quickly and easily produced
and your amps come in to the captor. Double captor?

3 toroids?3 toroids and huge awg wire?

I don't know. You are way out there, I love it. Let me think.

[BroMikey]

Nice!

Randy

Hey Randy

Have you ever used this idea in your experiments? I been gone lately
and a friend in the hood just died age 60 years, feeling pretty rough
myself. All my sins are catching up.

I hope you are well.





Hello Bro,

collected some more photos for information
( Don held the resistor end between his thumb and forefinger
and touched the other end to the metal coil L 2 windings running it up and
down as he did so, and the brightest point the lamp would GLOW was the EXACT
point of RESONANCE!)
and possibly to the Forum ( thecircle with the dot in the schematic
is actually just this N2-EH neon lamp used as a POWER ON indicator
light and safety feature at the same time!)
I leave it up to you to do with them as you feel fit to do!
you have good judgement so stick them where YOU please!


adios for now,


respects,


Clarence

[clarence]

Hello Clarence,

I am in, you have done lots of nice job. Thanks for information.

Hello Marius and Fam Members,

I remember you. nice to hear from you!

always my pleasure Sir!

Respectfully ,

Clarence