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  • clarence
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    Improvement

    [QUOTE=wantomake;
    wantomake[/QUOTE]

    Wantomake

    I just made an improvement regarding the Two toroid in phase shorted loop shown in previous PIC'S as the Blue # 12 AWG wire wrapped around the toroid winds.

    Instead of it just being a touch connection with the ground return I instead connected it with a short section of the ground return wire. This lets it still remain as a shorted loop but allows the alternating hertz frequency of the shorted loop to actually "PUMP" electrons through the ground wire and really does "ENHANCE THE GROUND RETURN" Action.

    I confirmed this by using my clamp meter. Before the change with or without
    loads on the system the shorted in phase blue wire loop always showed a steady amp reading of .4-.5 amps.
    Now with it connected with part of the ground return wire as part of it's shorted loop the amp reading drops to .2 amps.
    This shows that the ground return electrons are easing the current strain
    on the shorted loop while it is pumping them through (alternation wise) .
    May sound strange the way I put it but hopefully you get the idea anyway.

    Thumbnail attached.

    Clarence
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  • Hotdog
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    Congratulations

    Congratulations on your successful efforts and on a topic thread which illustrates what this forum is all about - shared experience with respect and support. I both appreciate and admire what I have read here. Best wishes to you, Clarence, and to all who seek to replicate what you have accomplished!

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  • digits10
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    Ground rods

    Clarence,
    With your success, it gave me the inspiration I needed to put in 3 8' ground rods tonight. I'm waiting for the 150v GDT's to come in. Can't wait to try this thing! I've got a pure sine wave inverter, so I'm very interested in trying it with that also.

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  • digits10
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    Toroids

    Ok, thanks for the clarification. I just didn't know what the number of loops was on those toroids. To help anyone else, it's the:
    "TD300-1120-P, 300VA, 60Hz, Primary 120V, 160 degrees winding on toroid surface, no secondary winding" available from Bridgeport Magnetics.

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  • Cadman
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    Congrats Clarence!

    The blue #12 coils are really the electron trap then?

    Ha, I confess. I bought two of these toroid transformers from Bridgeport Magnetics way back when and when I finally admitted to myself that I didn't have what it takes to solve this B&L patent, I used them on another project, destroying one in the process.

    I'll definitely have to try again now.

    Thank you for persevering until you solved it and my hat's off to you sir for sharing your work.

    Respectfully,
    Cadman

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  • wantomake
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    No picture please

    Originally posted by clarence View Post
    Wantomake,

    Use the 250 one - you have to use a GDT rated at HIGHER voltage than the mains or inverter voltage or the GDT WILL BLITZ the voltage straight thru and trip breakers!

    The toroids are BUTT to Butt - found that if you place them face to face then
    the input leads get in the way.

    Face toFace Or ass to ass -makes no difference as long as they MATCH !
    Nose to Ass doesn't work ! HA! HA!

    Clarence
    Clarence,
    Please don't paint that picture in my mind!!!



    I just ate !!!!
    wantomake

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  • clarence
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    Gdt

    Originally posted by wantomake View Post
    Clarence,
    Looks good and simple enough that I should be testing by this afternoon. Hopefully.

    I noticed you added the GDT since your last E-pics to me. What size? I have the 90 and 250 volt ones.

    Are your toroid (primary) windings same direction on the face to face configuration? Or opposite?

    After sandwich will head to shop. And yes I'll be trying the inverter/battery setup but after this runs off the mains.

    wantomake
    Wantomake,

    Use the 250 one - you have to use a GDT rated at HIGHER voltage than the mains or inverter voltage or the GDT WILL BLITZ the voltage straight thru and trip breakers!

    The toroids are BUTT to Butt - found that if you place them face to face then
    the input leads get in the way.

    Face toFace Or ass to ass -makes no difference as long as they MATCH !
    Nose to Ass doesn't work ! HA! HA!

    Clarence

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  • wantomake
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    Looks good

    Clarence,
    Looks good and simple enough that I should be testing by this afternoon. Hopefully.

    I noticed you added the GDT since your last E-pics to me. What size? I have the 90 and 250 volt ones.

    Are your toroid (primary) windings same direction on the face to face configuration? Or opposite?

    After sandwich will head to shop. And yes I'll be trying the inverter/battery setup but after this runs off the mains.

    wantomake

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  • clarence
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    Toroids

    Originally posted by digits10 View Post
    on the toroids, [ATTACH]19722[/ATTACH] are the 330 windings just on the top side (in red), or are they wound all the way around the toroid?
    digits10,

    you answer is looking at you in the above post!

    Clarence

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  • clarence
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    Torroids

    [QUOTE=digits10;303441]Clarence,
    I don't want to overwhelm you, since a lot of people are probably going to start asking questions. I had picked up the 90v GDT's, but apparently I'll need larger ones? Do you have a link to the one's you ordered (from Mouser if I remember right).

    You're using two toroids, right? I've got the two I had ordered for the original design (back in the day - like January I haven't done any winding yet as I was waiting for your breakthrough. Do I understand correctly that they need 330 turns of 20 gauge? Anything special to that winding? Just on one side, (like what I ordered in Dec/Jan), or do these 330 winds use all 360 degrees of the toroid?

    Can't wait to start trying this thing![/QUOTTE]

    digits10

    In the attachment are the two coils from back in the day. They are the same ones yo see in my photo post Previous.

    cheers,

    Clarence
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  • digits10
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    Toroids

    on the toroids, Image 61.png are the 330 windings just on the top side (in red), or are they wound all the way around the toroid?

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  • clarence
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    Photos

    Originally posted by wantomake View Post
    Digits10,
    I'm not answering for Clarence, but if you got the ones from post #6 then yes I believe is the correct ones. The primary is wound on the one side like 180 it seems.

    Clarence knows the GDT better then me.
    wantomake
    Wantomake ,


    I need to explain briefly the setup you see in the thumbnail attachment.

    First, it is an (Almost) exact duplicate of Ariovaldo's schematic. I even followed the color code on the wires as close as possible.

    Second, most people would just say that's only a damn ground loop to avoid the meter. In a way it is and in a way it ISN"T.
    B&L's method was to use the utility input on the toroid side only and then complete the power of the circuit through the ground (earth) as a return/neutral . The purpose of utility power to the toroids gave the system the hertz frequency needed for ALTERNATING elictricity. They were willing to pay for that small-small usage but not for any thing that was dumped into the ground. Whatever was freely dumped in the ground was also freely available for them to retrieve. So they came up with a system to do just that.
    HOWEVER - NOT ONLY THAT ELECTRICITY but also every OTHER FORM that was there also- Natural earth charges- Lightning discharges into the earth - mainly whatever was available BELONGED TO THEM and they wanted it
    big time. They also found out that the same system could be applied in a non Utility CO fashion, namely Solar/Battery/inverter and also just battery/ inverter.

    Any way, each member can look at it the way they want and make their own decision.
    EDIT: The two coils as shown DO replace the OLD DO NOTHING SHORTED # 1.0 Ought Loop. These two coils are looped ALSO AS A SHORTED LOOP as you can plainly see - HOWEVER the are a LENZ-LESS loop That DOES continualy ALTERNATE WITHIN ITSELF in efect enhancing the PULLING/PUMPING effect on the ground electrons - in that respect it DOES work like a charm!

    On with the photos as shown below.

    Cheers to ALL,

    Clarence
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    Last edited by clarence; 08-08-2017, 03:57 PM. Reason: need to know

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  • clarence
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    Gdt ------ mouser

    Originally posted by wantomake View Post
    Digits10,
    I'm not answering for Clarence, but if you got the ones from post #6 then yes I believe is the correct ones. The primary is wound on the one side like 180 it seems.

    Clarence knows the GDT better then me.
    wantomake
    Yes the GDT was a 150 volt AXIAL from mouser - Mouser part#
    871-B88069X2840S102.

    Thanks J

    Clarence

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  • wantomake
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    Originally posted by digits10 View Post
    Clarence,
    I don't want to overwhelm you, since a lot of people are probably going to start asking questions. I had picked up the 90v GDT's, but apparently I'll need larger ones? Do you have a link to the one's you ordered (from Mouser if I remember right).

    You're using two toroids, right? I've got the two I had ordered for the original design (back in the day - like January I haven't done any winding yet as I was waiting for your breakthrough. Do I understand correctly that they need 330 turns of 20 gauge? Anything special to that winding? Just on one side, (like what I ordered in Dec/Jan), or do these 330 winds use all 360 degrees of the toroid?

    Can't wait to start trying this thing!
    Digits10,
    I'm not answering for Clarence, but if you got the ones from post #6 then yes I believe is the correct ones. The primary is wound on the one side like 160 it seems.

    Clarence knows the GDT better then me.
    wantomake
    Edit: was 160 not 180.
    Last edited by wantomake; 08-08-2017, 07:08 PM.

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  • digits10
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    How to start

    Clarence,
    I don't want to overwhelm you, since a lot of people are probably going to start asking questions. I had picked up the 90v GDT's, but apparently I'll need larger ones? Do you have a link to the one's you ordered (from Mouser if I remember right).

    You're using two toroids, right? I've got the two I had ordered for the original design (back in the day - like January I haven't done any winding yet as I was waiting for your breakthrough. Do I understand correctly that they need 330 turns of 20 gauge? Anything special to that winding? Just on one side, (like what I ordered in Dec/Jan), or do these 330 winds use all 360 degrees of the toroid?

    Can't wait to start trying this thing!

    Leave a comment:

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