Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[wantomake]

One more test

Vrand,
Any new findings with your B&L setup?

Today I'll dig out my setup and try it with a UPS unit I have. One last try with a pure sine wave unit can't hurt. I just can't afford a psw inverter at this time. Hope the UPS works while connected to my modified sine wave inverter. There's no mains power at my shop unless I run a very long drop cord. But have plenty of solar power.

Let me know your results if any and I'll do the same. Clarence got his to work without mains power in spite of what some post here.

wantomake

[level]

Vrand,
Clarence got his to work without mains power in spite of what some post here.

From the info which Clarence has posted here, that is simply not accurate. By 'working', I mean producing over unity.

Clarence's description here of his last setup using an inverter made it clear that it was not over unity. The current limiting in his inverter was kicking in because it was being overloaded. Obviously all the power was coming from his battery and inverter. Wantomake, I know you mean well, but you are not helping anything by making claims that can't be backed up with facts.

In Clarence's last setup he said he had only a small current draw from the mains but was getting a very large power output to the loads he was powering. That all seems to have disappeared when he tried his setup again using his battery and inverter, where he could then only power a smaller load and it was overloading his inverter. I am not trying to give anyone a hard time here, but from what I have seen so far no one has been able to demonstrate one of these B&L setups doing anything unusual when using a battery and inverter.

From a response I got in an email exchange with B&L back in August 2017, they seemed to acknowledge to me that their previous captor devices did not produce over unity, and said they stopped working with those captor devices in Oct. 2013. They replied very briefly with "Not yet" (Ainda não) when I asked if their captor devices could produce over unity when using a battery and inverter to avoid the mains ground loop problem.

They said they are currently working on a new idea for a "photon-emitting electron-capturing circuit". Since it was a private email exchange with them, I won't post the actual email exchange. I am only posting this bit of info from the email exchange because I see some people are still spending quite a bit of money and time on trying to replicate the B&L electron captor loop devices. People can believe me or not. If someone wants to continue experimenting with these B&L setups anyway, then that is up to them. At least they have been informed that the prognosis is not looking good on these B&L captor loop setups.

[clarence]

Still using mine daily

@ ALL,

I still use mine many times daily.
The load Amperage comes via ground - It is NOT provided by the
HOT connection through the 20 amp rated wall socket - that is why
HIGH AMP loads can be achieved WITHOUT going through the Mains
METER.

As it was said , you can't "catch a cat " that can't be caught.
The cat Hides in the GROUND and simply waits for the " ...here kitty- Kitty... "
call.

I'm still just listening in and won't answer post questions so don't waste your time.

Clarence

[BroMikey]

@ ALL,

I still use mine many times daily.
The load Amperage comes via ground - It is NOT provided by the
HOT connection through the 20 amp rated wall socket - that is why
HIGH AMP loads can be achieved WITHOUT going through the Mains
METER.

As it was said , you can"t "catch a cat " that can"t be caught.
The cat Hides in the GROUND and simply waits for the " ...here kitty- Kitty... "
call.

I'm still just listing in and won't answer post questions so don't waste you time.

Clarence

Nice to hear about your success after so much hard work to verify that
the energy is coming from the ground and not the utility company. The
patent would not have been granted if the local power company and
the scientist running the patent office could show otherwise.

As we know guys like level and others who make setups that draw right
from the pole backwards can not be compared with ground energy
collection.

I forget the name of that power company out there that said that the
energy was not coming from their system but in fact the Barbosa boys
were getting energy from an unknown source.

I knew you could do it, you are a great researcher who shares. All of
the other inventions that are open or given away free are treated the
same way so you are not alone.

Thanks

[level]

If it 'works' when connected to the mains but does not 'work' at all the same when using a battery and inverter then it is pretty certain what you are seeing is due to a mains ground loop, cats or no cats. B&L seem to have been fooled by this as well, but it appears they eventually realized or it was explained to them by an unhappy power company that it was just due to a mains ground loop. I guess some people may just have to find out the hard way when the power company lays charges and the police show up at their door.

[wantomake]

No mains.

@ ALL,

I still use mine many times daily.
The load Amperage comes via ground - It is NOT provided by the
HOT connection through the 20 amp rated wall socket - that is why
HIGH AMP loads can be achieved WITHOUT going through the Mains
METER.

As it was said , you can't "catch a cat " that can't be caught.
The cat Hides in the GROUND and simply waits for the " ...here kitty- Kitty... "
call.

I'm still just listening in and won't answer post questions so don't waste your time.

Clarence

Clarence,
Hello ole friend.

Not using the mains means just that. I've been using a UPS but it doesn't have high wattage output. So I need to invest in good pure sine wave inverter for my setup.

To All,
Replication on this forum is everyone's choice and not mine or Clarence advice. You build at your own risk. That's the spirit of this forum, to take a chance/risk to build an idea you read about here. I've spent time and resources several times to attempt replicating ideas here. I've lost both but gained knowledge. I know this is my doing. Not a forum members fault that presented the idea.

wantomake

[Wistiti]

Clarence,
Hello ole friend.

Not using the mains means just that. I've been using a UPS but it doesn't have high wattage output. So I need to invest in good pure sine wave inverter for my setup.

To All,
Replication on this forum is everyone's choice and not mine or Clarence advice. You build at your own risk. That's the spirit of this forum, to take a chance/risk to build an idea you read about here. I've spent time and resources several times to attempt replicating ideas here. I've lost both but gained knowledge. I know this is my doing. Not a forum members fault that presented the idea.

wantomake

Completly agree with you on this wantomake!

[clarence]

Bull****

if it 'works' when connected to the mains but does not 'work' at all the same when using a battery and inverter then it is pretty certain what you are seeing is due to a mains ground loop, cats or no cats. b&l seem to have been fooled by this as well, but it appears they eventually realized or it was explained to them by an unhappy power company that it was just due to a mains ground loop. I guess some people may just have to find out the hard way when the power company lays charges and the police show up at their door. :d

bull****.....!

[level]

Hello Clarence. You show no AC current measurement of the mains hot phase wire on your mains extension cord at the input to your setup using your clamp-on meter when powering the exact same load. Why? What is the current reading on the hot phase wire when powering the same load?

It really appears some people just have to learn the hard way...

[clarence]

More bull****!!!!!!!!

Hello Clarence. You show no AC current measurement of the mains hot phase wire on your mains extension cord at the input to your setup using your clamp-on meter when powering the exact same load. Why? What is the current reading on the hot phase wire when powering the same load?

It really appears some people just have to learn the hard way...

BULL**** NEVER LEARNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clarence

[level]

[BroMikey]

BULL**** NEVER LEARNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clarence

He is afraid that you did it right. After all Level has been saying that
you are a liar and a failure in his own cute way for years, What else
could we expect. This is a good example of suppression, people
paid a few bucks to discredit inventors with no scientific base.

[liable]

help

I have got two tortran td060 60va, it has 1460 turns covered origin ,but has been removed now,I want to rewind it,can anyone tell me how much turn to cover it? 330 or 660 turns on each core ?I want replicate device like vrand did

[liable]

my core

it is secondhand

[BroMikey]

I have got two tortran td060 60va, it has 1460 turns covered origin ,but has been removed now,I want to rewind it,can anyone tell me how much turn to cover it? 330 or 660 turns on each core ?I want replicate device like vrand did

You will have to read up because he tells you how many turns. Go back and
read. If I find it I will tell you.