Newman Motor Finally Explained?

[gyula]

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Gyula

Hi all,

the unit from Figure 15-C2 or Figure 22-K1 I mentioned as shown in the book "The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman", the coil part is reported to weigh 145 lbs.
I just found out that if I acquire copper wire for that amount of wire weight, that will cost me a fortune: where I live the cost of 24 or 30 Gauge copper wire is about US $ 90 per 1 lbs...! (I'm based outside the US but pretty close)
So, if anyone knows where I can get my hands on cheaper copper wire of mentioned Gauge value, let me know... TIA!

And, since I'm talking about buying the components, what would be the very best for the magnets (type, amount and size)?

pjotterkjen

[pjotterkjen]

Newman Motor Unit of figure 15-C2 or 22-K1

Hi all,

the unit from Figure 15-C2 or Figure 22-K1 I mentioned as shown in the book "The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman", the coil part is reported to weigh 145 lbs.
I just found out that if I acquire copper wire for that amount of wire weight, that will cost me a fortune: where I live the cost of 24 or 30 Gauge copper wire is about US $ 90 per 1 lbs...! (I'm based outside the US but pretty close)
So, if anyone knows where I can get my hands on cheaper copper wire of mentioned Gauge value, let me know... TIA!

And, since I'm talking about buying the components, what would be the very best for the magnets (type, amount and size)?

pjotterkjen

[pjotterkjen]

Don't know the 22-K1 ?

I will share my replicating as I can, but will be really slow going.

wantomake

Great!

22-K1 refers to the figure with a picture on page 67 of the book "The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman", which is a must read, and can be picked up off the internet. See image below.

The portable device is actually fully described in Chapter 6 of the book. The model was described as 'portable' and produced more output power (10 Watts) than input power (0.36 Watts) which corresponds to a COP of around 27 which is amazing.



pjotterkjen

[wantomake]

Long motor

Great to read that some of you are also in the process of building replications. Please keep us all updated!
So, which AWG copper wire are you guys using?
And what are you exactly trying to replicate?
For me, currently I am preparing for having an exact replication of the one shown Figure 22-K1 which was actually tested and ratified by Dr. Roger Hastings to produce more output than input power.

pjotterkjen

Pjotterkjen,
My friend is using 24 awg, but not sure for myself yet. I'm trying the long motor type or the circular type. Don't know the 22-K1 ?

I'm still planning my build as this is not a cheap undertaking. I've many generator, electric motors, windmill generator, rotors ,casings and parts to build with. Would be great to build something that can be improved on as I learn and build more.

I will share my replicating as I can, but will be really slow going.
wantomake

[pjotterkjen]

Replications

Vidbid,
On your smaller size replication, how many wires in parallel will you wind the coils?

From the videos J. Newman had a smaller size motor installed in that red car he was testing. I may be getting a little ahead here, but it's a thought. Another member and I are trying a replication of desktop size. It would be easier to test on like a small scooter or something.

wantomake

Great to read that some of you are also in the process of building replications. Please keep us all updated!
So, which AWG copper wire are you guys using?
And what are you exactly trying to replicate?
For me, currently I am preparing for having an exact replication of the one shown Figure 22-K1 which was actually tested and ratified by Dr. Roger Hastings to produce more output than input power.

pjotterkjen

[wantomake]

Down sized

Yes, I thought his idea for the commutator brushes was cool. I don't know if I would use it, but I thought the idea should be saved.

As for what I'm working on, I'm working on a micro newman motor design. I'm currently looking for a cheap angle grinder. I need it to cut open a MOT. (See the link to a video below.) I want to use the high voltage winding of a microwave oven tranformer as the lower half of my micro newman motor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRoPHKpCYmg

Vidbid,
On your smaller size replication, how many wires in parallel will you wind the coils?

From the videos J. Newman had a smaller size motor installed in that red car he was testing. I may be getting a little ahead here, but it's a thought. Another member and I are trying a replication of desktop size. It would be easier to test on like a small scooter or something.

wantomake

[pjotterkjen]

Yes, I thought his idea for the commutator brushes was cool. I don't know if I would use it, but I thought the idea should be saved.

As for what I'm working on, I'm working on a micro newman motor design. I'm currently looking for a cheap angle grinder. I need it to cut open a MOT. (See the link to a video below.) I want to use the high voltage winding of a microwave oven tranformer as the lower half of my micro newman motor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRoPHKpCYmg

Yeah, pretty cool solution!
He also presents his next advancements, replacing the commutator with a Bedini circuit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt7rSr2FnVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7a6Rawsrj4&t=32

Why not use a hack saw as demonstrated?
And, I assume you want another high voltage winding for the upper half?
Anyways, a second hand angle grinder should be easy to find.

pjotterkjen

[vidbid]

Pretty interesting, thanks for posting this.

The poster showed an interesting commutator and brush principle, which does only one FIRE and one BLANK per revolution. No SHORT is being applied, which is where the additional energy flows into the overall energy equation. Still, it seems to work pretty well!

pjotterkjen

Yes, I thought his idea for the commutator brushes was cool. I don't know if I would use it, but I thought the idea should be saved.

As for what I'm working on, I'm working on a micro newman motor design. I'm currently looking for a cheap angle grinder. I need it to cut open a MOT. (See the link to a video below.) I want to use the high voltage winding of a microwave oven tranformer as the lower half of my micro newman motor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRoPHKpCYmg

[pjotterkjen]

New Commutator Design for Newman Motor

Pretty interesting, thanks for posting this.

The poster showed an interesting commutator and brush principle, which does only one FIRE and one BLANK per revolution. No SHORT is being applied, which is where the additional energy flows into the overall energy equation. Still, it seems to work pretty well!

pjotterkjen

[vidbid]

New Commutator Design for Newman Motor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU8fZIRGhxg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrIGIZ_s700

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HanLTpjXro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-VqBBfxadw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3TwfES2534

It looks like he is using skate board bearings as the commutator brushes.

[vidbid]

OK, let us know when you have the device on your bench and please share the test results!

pjotterkjen

I remember that in one of Newman's videos he essentially says the motor is scalable, essentially, that the motor can be any size, so I'd like to build a desk-sized model. To that end, I'm assembling parts to build one.

[pjotterkjen]

@pjotterkjen
The only way to test my theory is to build a prototype motor with my design or what I believe Newman's final design to be or to build the above experiment in my previous post.

OK, let us know when you have the device on your bench and please share the test results!

pjotterkjen

[vidbid]

@pjotterkjen

To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence to support the position of there being a hidden commutator.

With that being said, I'm aware of Big Eureka's precursor and its corresponding commutator. The reason for its design is to increase the resistance of the commutator contact gaps, but as Geoffrey Miller stated, to the effect, that once Newman achieved what he was looking for, he stopped making enhancements.

I believe that no one can dispute that Big Eureka was the final version, and for that reason, I think it makes sense to study it. Thank you for the images of the spark discharge coming off of the coil contacts, but you'll notice if you watch his videos of Big Eureka, while facing the front of the motor, the commutator revolves in a clockwise direction. I believe the spark discharge is the fly-back discharge coming off of the coil, but that would have stopped once the coil brushes would have contacted the shorting band, probably allowing the magnetic field in the stator coil to remain charged, thereby keeping its magnetic field mostly intact.

That's just my opinion. The only way to test my theory is to build a prototype motor with my design or what I believe Newman's final design to be or to build the above experiment in my previous post.

[pjotterkjen]

Big Eureka

To continue this interesting journey...

As said, I'm still assuming that the actual coil shortening happened somewhere inside the cover-up; you can say that that is just my guess of course, but I have noticed in one recent video where a rotating multiple commutator was briefly shown in running condition. See first image, taken of the video 'New Energy Series Joseph Newman 35' at 0:34:01. This type of commutator was mentioned by Newman himself in his book, and was a recommended build by Geoffrey Miller during his presentation. This commutator divides the spark voltage over multiple gaps instead of just one, thereby reducing spark voltage over each gap. Now, my guess is that this commutator type was used in the Big Eureka.



OK. To continue the big giant commutator discussion, it could be the case, that Newman had to align first the rotor to be able to give the coil mass a big punch when connecting the input voltage, so that sufficient torque was produced in the blanking and shorting phases, and the motor started to gain speed.

But, just for everyone's consideration, the videos do show different. When Newman started one of his machines, he always had to turn the rotor quite a bit in the earlier demo units. More recently, during one of his demonstrations with the Big Eureka (with the commutator yellow painted this time) he just started it with a small gentle initial turn force. See the second image, taken of the video 'Newman Demonstration' as of around 0:47:27.



Look closely at the image and then analyse the way the motor started up in the video. When Newman connected the voltage to the motor, it was just random timing, no specific timing there. All the motor needed was a small initial rotational speed. After maybe a 90° turn, the motor started accelerating. The initial input voltage was not that high (Newman most of the time increased the voltage manually, bit by bit).

At that point, when the motor started accelerating, it must have been at the point where the coil was 'blanked' and after that shorted out. This short moment must have produced sufficient torque to speed the whole system up and to get to the next gap.

The specific position of the two gaps at the specific acceleration point as seen in the video can hardly be determined, as the video quality is bad and the segments are barely visible, but from the coil switching (the clicking sound) that can be heard, and the way the rotor speeds up and slows down during each revolution, it surely seems like there is shorting of the coil only twice per revolution... which is simply amazing if that was the case!

Still, I think the sparks on the video shown at the brushes represent only a part of the enormous back EMF that is produced by such a big coil shorting out. I'm convinced this is handled somewhere else in the device. See third image, taken of the video 'Newman Demonstration' at 0:50:28.



So, an amazing and continuous torque would need to be produced to make the machine accelerate like it did. This is actually what makes the machine so special: the torque is produced by the mass of the coil (the aligned atoms caused by the catalytic pulsed input voltage pressure, creating a big magnetic field which turns the magnets attached to the rotor). No need for input current to create torque at the shaft. It is the voltage pressure that is causing a reaction of all the copper atoms (at the speed of light) where such a big magnetic field that the rotating magnets are either pushed or pulled and thereby create torque on the shaft.

This invention is so simple and has been fought so badly against by the vested powers that I can't believe it all really happened. We all owe it to Newman to at least bring this technology forward in his name and restore his damaged name, and bring some light in our planet that is being destroyed bit by bit nowadays, and this won't stop in the future if we just sit and watch and do nothing about the growing problem we all face.

But, we must do it the smart way. There's no way that even today the scientific community will accept this let alone the power brokers and all their investors. That is really a big backbone to break.

My guess? The buzz word of the energy future is EFFICIENCY. For example, Paul Babcock and his associates are showing it through their company that when managed through that word, things can actually change and won't be so hard fought as is with machines that promise that you won't have to pay for your electrical energy anymore. This is what causes all the 'financial resistance' and nothing is done.

EFFICIENCY will make a big improvement on the machines we're using right now, that use any type of motor that draws current. Just change the continuous input current to pulsed input voltage, and apply the basics of the Newman theory and we can have motors that run with very little energy consumption. That should be beneficial for everybody, our planet, and even the power brokers could live with it in a growing economy where we'll still pay for our bill but much much less.

pjotterkjen

[pjotterkjen]

Please refer to the posted image for my response:

OK, now I see your point. You think the coil is shorted when passing over the two gaps. Let's assume that is the case. Somehow the coil must get blanked (here, blanking means disconnecting the input voltage from the batteries) and shorted in those two little gaps. Twice per revolution.

Exactly where is that done, and how the sparks caused by the back EMF is handled, is still open to discussion, of course.

I'll be commenting on some interesting things related to the commutator I've seen in the videos, later on.

pjotterkjen