How Electricity Is Produced

[Vincent]

Electrical energy was one of man’s greatest discoveries. It has helped build new civilizations. The large amount of electricity produced has its source in fossil fuels, nuclear fission, water, and wind. This article will explore the different methods of electricity production.

Electricity is churned out by enormous turbines. These turbines need a support to be moved. There are various ways of moving these turbines:

By burning fossil fuels: Electricity is produced when the blades of a turbine are moved by enormous amounts of vapour. This vapour is generated by heating a lot of water in huge furnaces. The water is heated by burning fossil fuels like coal, petroleum, and natural gas.

This method releases enormous amounts of carbon dioxide in the air, thus severely polluting our atmosphere. It is important to turn to alternate methods of electricity production for long-term benefits.

By water: You must have heard how dams are constructed to produce electricity. A popular method to produce electricity, a water dams serves two purposes: restricting water bodies and producing electricity.

Water dams use the river water to move turbines, helping them produce electricity. Electricity generated this way helps control air pollution; however, this method of electricity production adversely affects the ecosystem in the water bodies.

Water accounts for 90 percent of the world’s electricity generated through renewable resources.

By wind: Electricity is produced when wind energy is converted to electrical energy. Wind mills or wind turbines are used to churn up enormous amounts of wind energy which is then converted into electrical energy.

The latest in wind energy advancement tells us that wind energy is helping create portable cell phone chargers.

By nuclear fission: Yes, nuclear fission does not only make atom bombs, but also helps produce electricity. Nuclear fission causes a chain reaction where the element Uranium is bombarded by neutrons causing it to split.

Every time a Uranium nucleus is split, more neutrons are released, causing more splits in the already split Uranium nuclei. The resultant chain reaction generates a lot of heat which is used to heat water the vapour of which eventually moves turbines to create electricity.

By bio-waste: With technological advancements, electricity is also being produced by bio-waste. Bio-gas is a typical way of generating electricity in rural areas in countries like India. In fact, a new technology evolved in the state of Bihar in India that uses human waste to generate electricity.

I bet you didn't know the last part huh? Human waste, used to generate electricity...look it up

[Dave45]

All that just to move a magnet past a coil of wire

[boguslaw]

All that just to move a magnet past a coil of wire

which is the wrong way anyway..... (burning something AND moving magnet against wire )

[thx1138]

How Electricity Is Produced

Fossil fuels, nuclear fission and bio fuels (human waste or otherwise) can all be lumped into one category - fueled. They all use the intermediate step of turning the fuel into heat to create steam and the turbine converts that heat energy into kinetic energy via the turbine and then to electricty.

Wind and hydro power avoids that intermediate step so are fuelless.

One of the other necessities, however, is control of the energy produced in terms of voltage and frequency.

The necessity of control is the problem with wind energy due to the inconsistency of the wind that creates the necessity of energy storage.

The energy converted in hydroelectric generation is from gravity so is consistent and does not require storage.

There is also a way to use nuclear energy to directly generate electricity. It is called nuclear batteries. These devices are used to power spacecraft like the Voyager probes that, since they are so far the sun cannot use solar power (they were recently reported to have left the solar system) and cannot be replaced, recharged, or maintained in any way. These batteries will provide power to the spacecraft for 40+ years but the output is low. These nuclear batteries have also been used on earth around the Arctic ocean to power lighthouses, again because they are not readily maintained: Radio Isotope Batteries

[Vincent]

There is also a way to use nuclear energy to directly generate electricity. It is called nuclear batteries. These devices are used to power spacecraft like the Voyager probes that, since they are so far the sun cannot use solar power (they were recently reported to have left the solar system) and cannot be replaced, recharged, or maintained in any way. These batteries will provide power to the spacecraft for 40+ years but the output is low. These nuclear batteries have also been used on earth around the Arctic ocean to power lighthouses, again because they are not readily maintained: Radio Isotope Batteries

You are very right.

Nuclear processes have long been exploited for generating heat and electricity for energy needs. In most of these cases, both the methods of generation and eventual applications are often associated with larger-scale structures (power plants) and distribution (national usage).

However, there are indeed much smaller scale situations involving the production of energy using nuclear processes. One of these examples is the use of radioisotope thermoelectric generators (RTGs).

RTGs are devices that convert the waste heat given off by radioactive decay processes into useable electrical energy and are often installed in space-bound objects that require energy and other remote structures/machines that cannot obtain energy efficiently by any other means. These include satellites, probes, and remote lighthouses.

Ideally, RTGs are established in systems under some of the following circumstances:

Unable to be continually maintained and serviced

Incapable of generating solar energy efficiently

Need to remain operating without human aid for long durations of time

Minimal human interaction

Based on these circumstances, the chief usage of RTGs is in fully automated systems that will not experience human contact for periods of time longer than other sources of energy, such as batteries and fuel cells, can sustain and in environmental conditions that are not conducive to generating energy by natural means (solar, wind, etc.).

[Ufopolitics]

We ALL got it wrong...since the very beginning...

Nice Thread,

However, We (Humankind) have being using the wrong methods to "Produce" Electricity...since the very first piece of Charcoal ever burnt...

Electricity is a completely Natural Process inherent to our entire planet...it exist the same exact way Water exist around every island...every continent...and also in the Clouds on the sky...

We have "managed" to "produce" an artificial electricity so far...based on wrong methods, however, following a purpose since the very beginning...to make it/generate it through difficult and clever methods/processes...

Still...Natural Electricity is Ten Thousand times stronger than the "strongest ever conceived" artificial method out there...just watch an Electric Storm...how a natural and powerful Lightning makes the artificial feeders transformers blink...or completely collapse burning down to ashes...creating a vast outage...No "State of the Art" artificial generation of electricity could resist such natural power discharge...however this "accidents" are part of this Electrical Generation BUSINESS...

Nikola Tesla knew We could use this Natural Electricity...not fighting it...but harnessing it...the right way.

..." I work for the future and my contemporaries will not understand me , but one day scientific laws will prevail, laws of nature which secrets I have discovered,... and everything will change , like when you clap with your hands..."

..."Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point of the universe. This idea is not novel. Men have been led to it long ago by instinct or reason; it has been expressed in many ways, and in many places, in the history of old and new. We find it in the delightful myth of Antheus, who derives power from the earth; we find it among the subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians and in many hints and statements of thinkers of the present time. Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic! If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic — and this we know it is, for certain — then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature..."



We still don't GET IT...

A Natural Positive HV / High Amperage Discharge in the Millionths, through a Lightning ...landing in our "Negative Grounds"...will disrupt every artificial known method in nano seconds...so they "try" better porcelain insulators... ...Thicker Cables...more "insulated" Reinforced Concrete poles...and still Nature blows it away ...

Tom Bearden: ..."None of the shaft power input to a generator adds one watt to the power line. All the hydrocarbons burned, the dams built, the windmills erected, and the nuclear power cells consumed, does not furnish one single watt of the actual electrical power that flows along the external circuit lines, filling all space around them. None of that energy input to the generator shaft is transduced into energy output from the terminals!

Isn't it insane to (1) go to all the trouble of burning hydrocarbon to burn and heat water in a boiler, to make steam and run a steam turbine to crank the shaft of the generator, to form a source dipole which has a broken symmetry in the vacuum, and therefore establishes the system as an open dissipative system freely receiving energy from its external vacuum environment, and then (2) continually destroy that disequilibrium and extraction of vacuum energy, by destroying the dipole faster than any of the free energy from the vacuum is used to power the load?.."

"WHERE YOU TURN SCIENCE INTO DOGMA ...IS WHEN YOU 'LOCK IN' ON A GIVEN MODEL, AND YOU "ASSUME" YOUR MODEL IS PERFECT...AND THEREFORE, ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T AGREE WITH THAT MODEL CAN NOT POSSIBLE EXIST IN NATURE...SEE, THAT'S WHEN SCIENCE BECOMES DOGMA..."

Tom Bearden

Regards


Ufopolitics

[Dave45]

Good post, I agree we have to create a natural flow, we have to find the right geometry

When we can make energy flow through a system in a natural pattern we will not have to pulse a system, as Lee says we will lead out energy, then power will be free to all.

[Vincent]

Awesome perspectives you guys. Basically it's like the current (water) - no pun intended - you flow with it, not against it. . .and instead redirect it to reproduce itself in degrees never thought possible in the eyes of man.

[Hrothgar]

The M.E.G. is the initial foray into that I believe

Good post, I agree we have to create a natural flow, we have to find the right geometry

When we can make energy flow through a system in a natural pattern we will not have to pulse a system, as Lee says we will lead out energy, then power will be free to all.

Magnetism flows in a natural pattern.

As is, a magnet is passed by coils to manually invoke a mirrored field in in the coil, prodding electrons down the wire. Misleading terms like "shielding" keep us from connecting the dots regarding the true use of aligned magnetic domains.

From what I've seen of the M.E.G. it shows.
1. Harvest-able energy comes from change.
2. A magnet releases a deluge of power that doesn't change.
3. if you give multiple paths for the magnet to complete it's circuit you can turn a particular circuit off and on with coils with less energy than you can in return harvest.
4. output is also proportional to how fast you can switch circuits as you get a certain amount of power with each switch why limit it to 60flips and 60flops per second why not crank it as high as your materials will allow for 400khz anyone?

Once we learn to think of magnets as circuits instead of dipoles or something to shield against. We will unlock power greater than nuclear and as portable as our devices.

[Ufopolitics]

Still based on Ancient Laws...

Hey Guys...

Have to realize, that so far...we have been ONLY following a "Unique" Ancient Law of generating electrical flow...based on an experiment of a couple of guys that far ago...

So, We have been producing electrical flow based on the same principle...like if that would be all Humankind is ever going to discover and develop...

Doesn't this sound like We have been "locked in time" by the same old model, same old discovery and related laws?...adding the fact...that it is "very convenient" for the so far only main Prime Movers around..."The Farting, Leakers and Stinking" Gas and Diesel Engines"?!

Can we all do better than this?...come on!....pleeeease!

It is "only" just a matter of a "little common sense"...

But nope...We had so many other people along all this One Hundred and Thirty Three Years of "LOCKED UP" Models and Laws...saying it...repeating it...day after day...from Tesla to Bearden...PLUS ALL the rest of a loong line of Bright Scientists and Inventors...also along that "Long and Winding Road"...that...I still, honestly...can not allow to think...there are STILL People...smart ones -as they say-...that believe ..."That's all we've got"...

Seriously speaking


Ufopolitics

[IndianaBoys]

Ufopolitics Generator

Nice Thread,

However, We (Humankind) have being using the wrong methods to "Produce" Electricity...since the very first piece of Charcoal ever burnt...

Electricity is a completely Natural Process inherent to our entire planet...it exist the same exact way Water exist around every island...every continent...and also in the Clouds on the sky...

We have "managed" to "produce" an artificial electricity so far...based on wrong methods, however, following a purpose since the very beginning...to make it/generate it through difficult and clever methods/processes...

Still...Natural Electricity is Ten Thousand times stronger than the "strongest ever conceived" artificial method out there...just watch an Electric Storm...how a natural and powerful Lightning makes the artificial feeders transformers blink...or completely collapse burning down to ashes...creating a vast outage...No "State of the Art" artificial generation of electricity could resist such natural power discharge...however this "accidents" are part of this Electrical Generation BUSINESS...

Ufopolitics

Good thread here.

Can you help us better understand the Ufopolitics Generator side of producing electricity?

I know a lot of work is being done on the prime mover side in your other threads, how about more info on the generator side.

How about a grid chart showing different variables to help us choose the best fit for a Ufopolitics generator?

That way, if some already have a prime mover, they can hook a Ufopolitics type generator to it and start generating electricity as well as feedback for others to learn from.

Torque required
RPM
Type of output (AC/DC, single phase, 3 phase, etc)
Poles
Type of winding
Wire gauge

Thanks Ufopolitics,

IndianaBoys

[thx1138]

Nice Thread,
Still...Natural Electricity is Ten Thousand times stronger than the "strongest ever conceived" artificial method out there...just watch an Electric Storm...

No doubt about that. It's the "harnessing" that gets tricky. The grid provides the constancy and control needed to make electricity useable. The continuous production of useable energy adjusted to the load at the time is what is difficult to achieve with lightning.

The universe is constantly bombarding the earth with energy from all directions at all times and it's the geophysical attributes of our planet that prevent is from being like Mercury or Mars.

Still looking...

[Bob Smith]

Magnetism flows in a natural pattern.

As is, a magnet is passed by coils to manually invoke a mirrored field in in the coil, prodding electrons down the wire. Misleading terms like "shielding" keep us from connecting the dots regarding the true use of aligned magnetic domains.

From what I've seen of the M.E.G. it shows.
1. Harvest-able energy comes from change.
2. A magnet releases a deluge of power that doesn't change.
3. if you give multiple paths for the magnet to complete it's circuit you can turn a particular circuit off and on with coils with less energy than you can in return harvest.
4. output is also proportional to how fast you can switch circuits as you get a certain amount of power with each switch why limit it to 60flips and 60flops per second why not crank it as high as your materials will allow for 400khz anyone?

Once we learn to think of magnets as circuits instead of dipoles or something to shield against. We will unlock power greater than nuclear and as portable as our devices.

I agree wholeheartedly with your observations, and if we want to find a way thru this, I think we need to take a serious look at the magamp. Here are a few links for reference:
George Trinkaus' Magamp page:
magamp.html

Nyle Steiner's Magamp page:
Homemade Magnetic Amplifiers.

There are also a couple of old digitized books from the 1950s era about magamps on Google books (posted by GarretM4 on the Eric Dollard Forum thread at http://www.energeticforum.com/eric-d...tml#post203097

For some more fun reads on the subject (via HathiTrust) check out:
Self-Saturating Magnetic Amplifiers 1960 by Gordon E. Lynn
Self-saturating Magnetic Amplifiers - Gordon E. Lynn - Google Books
Magnetic Amplifiers, Theory and Application 1958 by Sidney Platt
http://www.scribd.com/doc/124240426/...plication-1958 or Magnetic amplifiers: theory and application - Sidney Platt - Google Books

Note: I added easier to access URLs for the 2 above books.
And again by Garrettm4 (2 posts below the one above):

Lamare found a couple of interesting books on magnetic amplifiers, one of which gave a brief account of the Alexanderson transatlantic telegraph transmitter installation. Which is still intact in Grimenton Sweden. I thought I would put up a few pages from the book to complement the recent T-trex transmission "Law of Electro-Magnetic Induction".

On Magnetic Amplifiers in Aircraft Applications 2007 by Lars Austrin

Respectfully,
Bob

Edit: Re-reading Hrothgar's words, I think I jumped away from the point he was making about magnets and into saturable cores as found in the magamp. I'll leave the post as-is, as I do think the magamp's principles need to be considered in the quest for an alternative source of energy involving magnetism, coils and changing flux.

[thx1138]

Visualization

As is, a magnet is passed by coils to manually invoke a mirrored field in in the coil, prodding electrons down the wire. Misleading terms like "shielding" keep us from connecting the dots regarding the true use of aligned magnetic domains.

"...prodding electrons down the wire." may also be misleading. I think the electrons don't change position but change their spin and/or their orbit gets distorted in response to a magnetic field. For the electrons to move they would have to either leave their orbit which would lead to transmutation of the conductor or their associated nucleus would also have to move which I think does not occur.

The spins of the electrons at one position in the wire respond to the magnetic field and at the same time in another position on the wire the spins are unaffected and the result is voltage - a difference in potential between two points. The "voltage" is the potential of electrons to return to their previous state of spin. Current being the movement not of the electrons but of the spin positions or orbit distortion moving from one portion of the wire to the another by transmitting the changed spin position from one atom to the next. The medium of spin transmission being being the aether. Visualize two floating disks in a tub of water. Imparting rotation to one disk will eventually cause the other to move as well, the disks being the electrons and the water being the aether.

Just thinking out loud here. But I think we need to accurately visualize what's going on to make progress.

[Hrothgar]

Your spot on Bob

I only concentrate on magnets because I have no electrical background. I want and need to learn more about electrical engineering. I'm so glad you posted the links I'm going to pour over this stuff.