anything that works?

[citfta]

OK,

I am going to try and help you out some. If you will, go to the first post in the 3BGS thread. That is the 3 battery generating system thread, then read several times the first post so that you understand exactly what Dave is saying then you have a starting point for a system that can work.

Next you need to go to this post: http://www.energeticforum.com/269465-post409.html. Do the work Matt tells you to do to modify the scooter motor to make it a more efficient and powerful motor. You use this motor with the 3BGS system. And yes I have built the motor and the 3BGS.

Then if you will look closely at the video Dave gave you the link to you will have an idea of how to make a generator that will work. And Dave told you how to make it work even better. I am working on that generator now.

Now if you get into actually doing any of this you can come to my thread "Open discussion for projects on this forum" and ask for help and I will try to help. Or you can go to Dave's thread "Basic Free Energy Device" and ask Dave or Matt to help. If you are not willing to work and learn then don't bother to ask any of us for help.

By the way it took me over 10 minutes to find the post I linked to, and I knew it was there.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[velacreations]

Twice now I've told you the plans for the motor are on the "Basic Free Energy Device" thread, but you want ME to go there and look it up for you and post it?

Well, I didn't see any plans, I see a lot of discussion about stuff, but no plans. You said the plans were there, and I asked you for a link to plans, I'm just wondering why you won't just post a link?

I gave you a link to the video of a working generator. If you can't figure out how to build it from that video, and a little bit of research into the Leedskalnin's PMH, I don't know what to tell you.

Have you built one?

There are folks here who have seen stuff work have put in the time and effort, done the research and spent the money, and you expect it to be given to you on a silver platter. Really? I have better things to do than go back through the stew and pick out the meat for you. Sorry.

No, I just expect people to back up what they say. If they say something works or something exists, I expect them to provide at least a little shred of evidence, a link is not asking for much. You act like posting a link is a big deal. You spent more time typing out your last reply than it would have taken to post a link to the plans you claim exist.

You wanted to know if there are working devices and the answer is "yes."

Weird, I can't find any actually working, even on those threads, there are tons of people trying to make them work...

"Hey, I have free energy! I did it, we are all free!"
"oh yeah, can you show me?"
"WHAT?!?!?! You want me to spoon feed you?"

This thread is about actual, existing, working devices. Don't tell me "they're out there", post a link to actual plans, better yet, credible evidence that it works. If you don't have it, fine, no big deal, but don't come here acting like you do.

If you look at MY posts, I post things with full instructions on how to replicate the device, complete with photos, details, etc. Here, I have a whole collection of them: Homesteading How Tos - Off Grid Guides and Tutorials

See how easy that was? Copy, paste, took me all of 1 second.

[RUE]

Dave,
I agree about not releasing until you are sure it will work good and can be replicated easily.Glad to hear that you are still moving forward with this stuff.
Matt I am sure is really busy right now with everything.Busy time of year for us as we are farmers also.Hope you Guys are doing well.

[Turion]

Twice now I've told you the plans for the motor are on the "Basic Free Energy Device" thread, but you want ME to go there and look it up for you and post it? I don't think so. There are enough people on these forums who expect to be spoon fed everything and aren't willing to do the work themselves. We don't need another one.

I gave you a link to the video of a working generator. If you can't figure out how to build it from that video, and a little bit of research into the Leedskalnin's PMH, I don't know what to tell you.

The 3BGS thread is a long one, but like I said, a simple circuit is discussed there. Not the BEST one, but a circuit. The circuit is described in the first post there. Again, you SHOULD read the thread because of the information it gives you.

There are folks here who have seen stuff work have put in the time and effort, done the research and spent the money, and you expect it to be given to you on a silver platter. Really? I have better things to do than go back through the stew and pick out the meat for you. Sorry.

When Matt finally releases the plans for the generator, that is what is going to happen, but if you want it before that, you're going to have to do some work on your own. Or don't. You wanted to know if there are working devices and the answer is "yes."

One thing I want to be clear on, what Matt will be releasing is still a BASIC device. It proves the concept. It is not the BEST possible combination, but we wanted something that proved the point conclusively enough that nobody who built it properly could possibly deny that it's for real. It needed to be relatively inexpensive so more people could build it, and simple enough that the average guy could replicate it. It is definitely not as complex as the unit I have been building and has us beating our heads against the wall on a daily basis. But then I KNOW this stuff is for real, so I know the head pounding will eventually pay off.

Dave

Oh, and I know from experience that when I won't give it to you gift wrapped, you're going to say I really don't have anything in the package. I understand that. I know how people think. But that's not my problem and it's not my loss is it?

[velacreations]

The plans for the motor are on the "basic Free Energy Device" thread. Lots of folks have replicated and some are testing the motor right now. It works great.

do you have a link to the page of the thread with plans?

Matt hasn't released the generator he is working on yet, but that is why I posted the video above of a generator I happen to know works. With modifications, it works even better than in the video.

As to the circuit, the simplest one to recover the energy used to run the motor is the simple one used in the Three Battery Generating System" thread. Other folks have posted recovery circuits over the years here. The main idea is to run the motor on the potential difference between two sources of voltage so that it moves from the higher source through the motor to the lower source. And the motor also acts as a generator.

And then there's the flywheel. That's not rocket science.

so, is there a link to a documented working devices? I didn't see plans in those threads, just descriptions of what people were trying.

EVERY one of these things has been disclosed. They just need to be put together. Then they need to be improved on. I haven't released plans for the big generator I built because it isn't working consistently yet, and I have no intention of adding to the list of folks who get other people to do all the testing of their pipe dream.

funny, if I had something that actually worked, I'd be letting everyone know.

[Turion]

Big Gen

LOL. That's probably true. It has been a bottomless money pit. But I have learned a lot, and I'm still alive, which is a big plus!

[Matthew Jones]

No one could afford that thing anyway...LOL

Matt

[Turion]

The plans for the motor are on the "basic Free Energy Device" thread. Lots of folks have replicated and some are testing the motor right now. It works great. Matt hasn't released the generator he is working on yet, but that is why I posted the video above of a generator I happen to know works. With modifications, it works even better than in the video.

As to the circuit, the simplest one to recover the energy used to run the motor is the simple one used in the Three Battery Generating System" thread. Other folks have posted recovery circuits over the years here. The main idea is to run the motor on the potential difference between two sources of voltage so that it moves from the higher source through the motor to the lower source. And the motor also acts as a generator.

And then there's the flywheel. That's not rocket science.

EVERY one of these things has been disclosed. They just need to be put together. Then they need to be improved on. I haven't released plans for the big generator I built because it isn't working consistently yet, and I have no intention of adding to the list of folks who get other people to do all the testing of their pipe dream.

Dave

[velacreations]

do you have links to those plans and project details?

[Turion]

Simple device

I started a thread "Basic Free Energy Device" because I have built working prototypes that have a COP>1 or 2 or 3, and thought it was about time we focused on the basics and put together a "basic" machine that everyone interested could replicate and then we could ALL focus on improving that basic model. It goes back to the device John Bedini first showed us, with some modifications of course.

A highly efficient pulse motor
Running a highly efficient generator
Using a circuit that recovers the power used to run the motor
With a flywheel to keep the momentum up and smooth everything out since we would be using a pulse motor.

Matt Jones built a simple two coil version which I replicated that has a COP>2, and that is WITHOUT using the recovery circuit. Matt posted plans for the motor on that thread. He is currently working on the generator, which we HOPE will be even more efficient than the two coil version, but if that does not work out, we may end up showing the two coil version. He has been busy with planting, but will have a few days this next week.

Because the simple two coil version as successful, I began working on a 12 coil version. This was over a year ago. With only the first two coils in place, I did some testing and sent videos back and forth with Matt. My Machine was outputting 130 volts at 1 amp per coil under load and using only one coil. When the second coil was shorted, the machine would speed up.

The current machine has 12 coils and is run by an off the shelf razor scooter motor. Once the machine runs with that motor, it will be replaced by the modified razor scooter motor. But I wanted to eliminate variables, and a modified motor is a variable. I work on it EVERY day. Yesterday one of the magnets came out of the rotor, so it is down until I can get that fixed. I have been working on this thing for over a year, so I know what CAN be done.

12 coils x 130 volts x 1 amp is around 1,560 watts output. The razor scooter motor runs on 24 volts (now) and will burn up if run on more than 10 amps for any period of time, so the input can't be more than 120 watts. And I have burnt up a few motors pushing the limits.

Matt's motor design is simple to build, and plans are posted.
Looke at the generator that speeds up under reactive and inductive loads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJl0TO_aR6M

The output will increase if you pass magnets across the ENDS of the rods instead of BETWEEN the rods.

There is good stuff out there if you search for it.

BUT

Matt's motor won't do it by itself
The generator I posted won't do it by itself
You need the circuit.
You need the flywheel.
You need to put ALL the parts together to get a working device.

WE need each other to bounce ideas off of and move this stuff forward.

Dave

[velacreations]

any new devices that are working?

[Duncan]

RIP Dean

Hi qvision … very Tardy I haven't looked at this thread for some time .. If you research that event be sure to have a look at “Dean Warwick” he was Murdered in front of me some time ago .. he was about to expose the technology involved in this disaster.

[qvision]

Thanks Duncan.

Oh Its just a principle skywatcher It is simply a full stop for those who say free energy isn't available.
I really have no time for nay sayer's any more . Here's the first blocker Directory:35 U.S.C. 181:Secrecy of certain inventions and withholding of patent - PESWiki
and as you say a lot needs to be answered by the "sheeple" themselves and the control “fear and pay” system that we wilfully live under, If you can watch both these video's of the same incident one for
public transmission after extensive and expensive re-mastering, and one leaked from the BBC archive and work out what the difference is and why its been done you have taken a little step toward free energy
WTC2 collapse - YouTube
cutter - YouTube
If you can work out why George felt he had to say this
George Carlin - The american dream - YouTube
You’ve taken another little step. A little over 200 years ago the “They” who George talks about and the “Who” skywatcher mentions were doing what they always seem to do “more for themselves”
But the people who were not in the “big club” with a little help from this very clever man Joseph Fourier

who found most of the “they s” and their Bankster criminal friends and introduced them to a new pension scheme


Now in regard of free energy you would be well advised to study the mathematics of Fourier and his supporter Lord Kelvin and their later advancement by this guy

Charles Proteus Steinmetz: The Man Who Made Lightning - undated - YouTube
However you needn't concern yourself with free energy It isn't a problem at all, there are thousands of people who know how that’s done . Its the “They” that need sorting out and the sooner the better.
For Instance a website that does Fourier’s day job and names the “They” a lot of them are here
EndGame HQ full length version - YouTube (Its how they roll) they seem to not understand

“Learn from history or you're doomed to repeat it.” Jesse Ventura
So why do you want free energy? You'll only pay pay pay … four times as much for food or the roof over your head as George tells you the stinking rich who have never washed a pot in their lives “own you”! (and me) the right to have free energy is going to have to be won any suggestions?
PS Madame La Guillotine ... The medicine hasn't worked a new scheme is required!

Hi Duncan, re: the 9/11 videos, they look like the footage taken from the film crew documenting the firemen ?

Thank you VERY much for the version where you hear the explosions, i haven't done any reading on 9/11 since late 2010 and i have never seen (heard !) that video.


Thanks again.

[Seger]

Herr der Schneidermeister

Oh Its just a principle skywatcher It is simply a full stop for those who say free energy isn't available.
I really have no time for nay sayer's any more . Here's the first blocker Directory:35 U.S.C. 181:Secrecy of certain inventions and withholding of patent - PESWiki
and as you say a lot needs to be answered by the "sheeple" themselves and the control “fear and pay” system that we wilfully live under, If you can watch both these video's of the same incident one for
public transmission after extensive and expensive re-mastering, and one leaked from the BBC archive and work out what the difference is and why its been done you have taken a little step toward free energy
WTC2 collapse - YouTube
cutter - YouTube
If you can work out why George felt he had to say this
George Carlin - The american dream - YouTube
You’ve taken another little step. A little over 200 years ago the “They” who George talks about and the “Who” skywatcher mentions were doing what they always seem to do “more for themselves”
But the people who were not in the “big club” with a little help from this very clever man Joseph Fourier

who found most of the “they s” and their Bankster criminal friends and introduced them to a new pension scheme


Now in regard of free energy you would be well advised to study the mathematics of Fourier and his supporter Lord Kelvin and their later advancement by this guy

Charles Proteus Steinmetz: The Man Who Made Lightning - undated - YouTube
However you needn't concern yourself with free energy It isn't a problem at all, there are thousands of people who know how that’s done . Its the “They” that need sorting out and the sooner the better.
For Instance a website that does Fourier’s day job and names the “They” a lot of them are here
EndGame HQ full length version - YouTube (Its how they roll) they seem to not understand

“Learn from history or you're doomed to repeat it.” Jesse Ventura
So why do you want free energy? You'll only pay pay pay … four times as much for food or the roof over your head as George tells you the stinking rich who have never washed a pot in their lives “own you”! (and me) the right to have free energy is going to have to be won any suggestions?
PS Madame La Guillotine ... The medicine hasn't worked a new scheme is required!

I had a thought when I sat and relaxed with a bottle of water in the heat. Ok 2012 with all advanced technology, chemistry, physics down to the nanoscale, advanced medicine, etc., and we can not separate such a simple molecule H2O to the simplest atom H there is something not right.
And began researching by reading some books first chemistry class. And then the network and it is very good if you want to do research and the discoveries what we have made in 30 years.

There are lots of promising studies, but everything that has to do with energy and particularly fossil fuels, yes what happened in 30 years let me bring up examples .......... you guessed it.

But hell, have we not governments that should take advantage of our interests, and above all, our planet Earth?

I can understand that in the U.S. by reading here! but countries in the EU and specielt Germany and Sweden in front of EVERYTHING WITH ROYAL SCIENCE ACADEMY AND NOBEL PRIZE it was a really good invention nitroglycerin! it was good for us. I will give a good example here to follow about our research and it is money that controls.

Sweden is a leader in nanotechnology, they say themselves.

2007 published an article on these nanowires that are so thin that one can only conduct electrons in one direction but whit heat is not as good. You can save the excess heat and easily convert into electricity. 15-20% energy savings. Yeah man that´s the way to go.

Now it´s 2013 and what happen? maybe finally it´s can be a small small (LED)light but it´s not any led lamp it´s 50% effectic compared to common led! Yeah man that´s the way to go.

But there were three major groups Wallenberg and one Highrisk investment co do not remember others. Why my first thought, second thought they might counter being purchased by General Electric?

At first I did´t thoght hang out in the company but then I remembered that founder sitting in ROYAL SWEDISH Academy of Sciences. glo.se
But I may be wrong ... the history should tell.

My chemistry what became of them. Do not know but what holds together the atoms? energy, what is energy? vibrations, what is vibration? wavelengths, such as light. Or sending H2O through a filter / membrane of nanowires and light it up.

Thank´s for me hope someone bother to read.

[Berg]

Radiant Collector

The Radiant Collector works and is easy to build.

One could say that there are two circuits at play here. The radiant collector and the radiant exciter.


The radiant exciter has the purpose of radiantly exciting the batteries, of which there are two.


The circuit is called a Brovin Kacher Radiant Exciter.

The circuit for the radiant collector is called a Tesla Radiant Collector.


Basic Schematic:


The input to the radiant exciter circuit is about 200mA; however, the radiant collector is not directly connected to the batteries. Output from the radiant collector circuit can be seen to be considerably more than the input to the exciter circuit.

More Detailed




Replication #1

http://youtu.be/2JxunfyhtFI

Replication #2

http://youtu.be/vnHTtpPvsTQ

Replication #3

Diodes for Replication #3

http://youtu.be/nhbtOvNLnko

These diodes cost about $30US each.