Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera

[seaad]

Hi seaad,

I am not even getting close to 50% out with the secondary and primary configurations I have tried. My part G is working fine at producing the opposing sine waves but the conversion between primary and secondary is very low. I have tried a couple of different coil arrangements and opposing as well as aiding magnetic fields. Have you found a way to get above the 60 - 70% you predicted?

Carroll

Sorry citfta I made a minor fault. I made my predictions from a G-part similar to the pic added. With yours G-module it is somewhat below 60-70.

Should be interesting to see MM:s latest G.part (When finished) with both + and - sweeping around.
https://overunity.com/12794/re-inven...4515/#lastPost

Regards Arne

[Ufopolitics]

Hi seaad,

I am not even getting close to 50% out with the secondary and primary configurations I have tried. My part G is working fine at producing the opposing sine waves but the conversion between primary and secondary is very low. I have tried a couple of different coil arrangements and opposing as well as aiding magnetic fields. Have you found a way to get above the 60 - 70% you predicted?

Carroll

Hello Citfta,

Could you please share what your INPUT to Primaries Specs (Volts+Amps) are?

In general to ALL: Remember CF Generator is based on MULTIPLE MODULES of Primaries-Secondaries...so, do not expect to make it successfully w/ just one module.



Regards



Ufopolitics

[citfta]

The above Will work.
Maximum total efficiency between 60 - 70% (anyhow < 100%) in/out. (My prediction)
Please prove me wrong and tell me/us how the/any OU occurs.

Regards Arne

Hi seaad,

I am not even getting close to 50% out with the secondary and primary configurations I have tried. My part G is working fine at producing the opposing sine waves but the conversion between primary and secondary is very low. I have tried a couple of different coil arrangements and opposing as well as aiding magnetic fields. Have you found a way to get above the 60 - 70% you predicted?

Carroll

[seaad]

The above Will work.
Maximum total efficiency between 60 - 70% (anyhow < 100%) in/out. (My prediction)
Please prove me wrong and tell me/us how the/any OU occurs.

Regards Arne

[bistander]

Did you read this?

...
1) Washing machine motor, with a single positive connection to the continuous winding of the armature, how does the alternate brush discriminate its 180degree phase with other brush?
...

Hi Dwane,

I think Ufo's post and diagrams explain it nicely. What is it that you don't understand?

Hello to All,

Guess you all would be lost without my graphics...

Here is a quick drawing of Citfta's Part G:



OK, now you guys must realize that all coils in the armature of a Universal Motor (like in any other brushed motor) are "typically" OVERLAPPED, and not like represented on diagram above, I did it like that for purposes of clarity in the whole graphic.

Whole Armature is contained within the black circle.

On the center the gold smaller ring is the CONTINUOUS SLIP RING, where the Small Positive Brush is connected to Source Positive.

We could see a gold wire running from Slip Ring to just ONE ELEMENT of the Commutator, that I painted RED with a + sign within.

Commutator is based on a 16 elements as in Figuera's Patent from 1908, brushes are contacting Two Elements as also directed by Figuera, not allowing Field to Collapse.

Say we are rotating whole armature in a CW direction or as represented by "R"...Then, Primary 1 would start the short period of MAX ENERGIZING, while Primary 2 would be at it LOWEST ENERGIZING...

Advancing rotation 180º then the opposite will take effect, like seen below:



Hope is clearer now.


Regards


Ufopolitics

Regards,

bi

[Dwane]

Something on my mind!

Hi guys.
Dangerous territory. I have been thinking again!

1) Washing machine motor, with a single positive connection to the continuous winding of the armature, how does the alternate brush discriminate its 180degree phase with other brush?

2) Clemente's design is wasteful. Why have we not looked at primary oils wound on U shapes and then have two primaries cojoined with two secondary coils? Theoretical output times two?

3) have started reading William Hooper treatise on Motional electric fields. Not an easy grasp at first read! How would this fit in with Clemente's ideas?

Washing Machine motor hasn't arrived yet.

Regards

Dwane

[Dwane]

Hi Guys,
Are you sure this is fake? Is there not some sympathy with the devices we are talking about now? I must admit I have looked at some others last night. I particularly like this one, of which I posted a comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2i6vywEcNY.

This one really sucked in the "unclean"!

What is really good are the props and method. Casual work ethic, tired looking soldering iron and well used dirty glue gun. Brilliant!! This guy is a genius! He would have showed Hubbard a thing or two.

Thanks for the heads up on the field coils, doubt if I will see any of those lying about for some time. Still I can start looking.

Edit: youtube pays for videos? Where have I been all these years?

Regards

Dwane

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Guys,
Great video!!! The build is obviously using two components from different systems. The stator is interesting. Do we know how this is wound and where it comes from? The Armature, where did this come from? Also, this looks like it has been modified with the bluetac on it?

too many questions?

Regards

Dwane

Yes, excellent video right!!??

Oh!!..and we should also pay special attention to the type of wood utilized on such accurately built machine!!
IMHO the wood should have some kind of "specific" strength plus compactness which transmits properly all the frequencies involved...

Regards



Ufopolitics

[citfta]

Fake!!!

Dwane,

The video is a fake! UFO and I were just having fun making silly comments about it. Nothing as sloppily put together as that could possibly work like the video seems to claim.

To answer your questions though it appears the stator is from a multispeed induction motor similar to what is used in washing machines and dish washers. The armature looks similar to a universal motor such as used in power saws or vacuum cleaners.

Please don't waste any more time thinking about the video. It is like thousands of others that are posted to fool people that have no experience in electronics. The only purpose of the video is to try and get subscribers for his Youtube channel. The more subscribers he gets, the more money he gets from Youtube.

Carroll

[Dwane]

Hi Guys,
Great video!!! The build is obviously using two components from different systems. The stator is interesting. Do we know how this is wound and where it comes from? The Armature, where did this come from? Also, this looks like it has been modified with the bluetac on it?

too many questions?

Regards

Dwane

[citfta]

Sorry

I am sorry to have to disappoint you UFO. But I have only been soldering for a little over 50 years so my soldering skills are just not up to the level presented in the video. My replication would surely be a failure.

I did notice after watching again that we may have both missed another key feature. The armature is very loose in the stator housing causing some very high flux leakage. Maybe that is the real key to success.

Carroll

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Arne,

I think you missed a couple of very important parts of the video. First you obviously must leave your soldering pencil as nasty as possible so you can get those special solder connections. Then you must connect that bridge rectifier with the AC side going to the field coils and the DC side going to the armature windings. That is probably the most important secret in the video. I mean if that doesn't convince you that guy knows what he is doing, what would it take to convince you?

Carroll

Hi Citfta,

Sorry but I highly disagree about important details (on video) that must be accomplished when putting it together...

Did you notice when Generating Universal Motor gets front pulley-plastic fan attached to its shaft?

Well...that's ONE MAIN KEY there!!

Notice how much that front Wheel-assy WOBBLES?
It is DEFINITIVELY an UNBALANCED FLYWHEEL!!!
IMHO if that frt wheel is balanced...it simply won't work!!

Hope you could reproduce it AS IS on Video.

Finally...see how wrong you were about YouTube??!!


Regards



Ufopolitics

[citfta]

Hi Arne,

I think you missed a couple of very important parts of the video. First you obviously must leave your soldering pencil as nasty as possible so you can get those special solder connections. Then you must connect that bridge rectifier with the AC side going to the field coils and the DC side going to the armature windings. That is probably the most important secret in the video. I mean if that doesn't convince you that guy knows what he is doing, what would it take to convince you? And then the last thing I saw was that you have to leave the 9 volt battery connected until he can turn on the hidden switch. Just connecting the battery until the motor gets up to speed is not good enough.

Thanks UFO for a good laugh.

Carroll

[Ufopolitics]

To succeed you'll need that music in the background also!
Regards Arne

DEFINITIVELY so!

[seaad]

To succeed you'll need that music in the background also!
Regards Arne