My Asymmetric Electrodynamic Machines

[sebosfato]

Great UFO

amazing again!!!

MAn i think im understanding what you mean... the magnetic field in the rotor never reverses by the action of the coil siting there reversing the polarity... so as you are applying dc the rotor saturates easy... Is a real Dc motor

Is that correct?

You are very wise, i notice that when i start drawing it many times on paper to understand it well.. the poles aways assist the rotation...

I created an drawing time ago that was nothing more than a coil around a rotor.. in attachment

THe magnets are repelling each other so each cycle of each coil attracts and repels two magnets at a time...

What you think about it?

[adilu]

IS the princess you call, the moment where you turn off the field aways somewhat far from the center of maximal attraction repulsion?

I noticed that if you add another battery to the generator coil you could add some torque to it wouldn't it? I mean in supply with two isolated sources...

one qustion
and pls don't shoot if i sound moronic
it was just a flash in my head
could asymmetric motor be combined with tesla switch ????

[Ufopolitics]

Read My First Thread, please...

Man thats amazing... Could you explain a little further the thing about the 180 angles i couldn't understand very well.

Did you meant the more a coil travel with no connection the more it extract energy from the vacuum? And than the energy is collected at the generator coils?

Do you get a circuit diagram for this pwm? how are the brushes arranged in that case?

Thanks a lot for your dedication to this work

Regards
Fabio

Sebosfato,

You need to read my...First Thread here (My Motors...), please...Everything is there friend, including my 555 timer (which is very typical, old and not fancy at all Oscillator)

You will see "The Other Side of the Moon" ...and there will be people to assist you with your questions...is full of very nice guys there...like Prochiro (Dana), that thanks to God and to Aaron Murakami, is back with Us again...

Did you meant the more a coil travel with no connection the more it extract energy from the vacuum? And than the energy is collected at the generator coils?

YES SIR, THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT...

It "Not Necessarily" have to travel...to do it...Stationary Coils will also "do it"(READ MY OTHER THREAD!!)...However, there are "Other Inductions" taking place when Coils are rotating within a Magnetic Field..well you know that, Faraday!!

The Pair of Coils or just One Coil...traveling FREE...is what Tom Bearden was trying to explain outside Motor-Generators Concepts (He explained the effect in Batteries, Transformers, etc)...but the same exact "essence" ..Mr Bearden name them "Di-Poles"...

The Same exact way He has been saying that Symmetry has kept killing the Di-Pole for more than a Century...He was right man...all this time...unfortunately, He was not able to proof his Theory...and by now He is too Old...to fight, to insist anymore...
The same way He repeated for over Thirty long years of research...That ..."No Generator turning, no all the rivers dumped over Hydro Electric Power Plant, not all the Nuclear Reactors burnt, not all the batteries worn out in this Planet, not a Single Wind Generator ...has EVER contributed NOT ONLY ONE ...SINGLE WATT of Energy...to our LOADS...not one...it has all been done by Radiant Energy...but "Half and Minus Half Way"...never allowed Full Blast.

BUT, He was NOT ABLE TO show-demonstrate PROOF, to the "AUDIENCE", to the bunch of Skeptics, Bunch of Pessimists,bunch of Assiduous and Stock to "Classic Physics Twisted and Mutilated Concepts" ...

"The Perfectly Well Educated Engineering Audience"...of Lies and Scams ...

There is a Book I highly recommend...to all like you interested to know the whole "History in Detail"...ENERGY FROM THE VACUUM, by T. Bearden

It will be like a "completion" to Master my disclosure here...from a very Scientific point of view...I never get tired of reading it...every time I find something "else"...

I swear, I do not "work for Tom Bearden"...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Yes...

one qustion
and pls don't shoot if i sound moronic
it was just a flash in my head
could asymmetric motor be combined with tesla switch ????

You can "Combine" this Machines (do not call them "just" Motors please!!..., just kidding) witth most of Tesla Art...my Dear friend...they are all "compatible"...


just DO IT RIGHT though!!


Regards


UFO

[adilu]

nice

tks UFO

you made my day with the info you just shared with us

[Ufopolitics]

I am wasted...pls...

Great UFO

amazing again!!!

MAn i think im understanding what you mean... the magnetic field in the rotor never reverses by the action of the coil siting there reversing the polarity... so as you are applying dc the rotor saturates easy... Is a real Dc motor

Is that correct?

You are very wise, i notice that when i start drawing it many times on paper to understand it well.. the poles aways assist the rotation...

I created an drawing time ago that was nothing more than a coil around a rotor.. in attachment

THe magnets are repelling each other so each cycle of each coil attracts and repels two magnets at a time...

What you think about it?

Sebosfato...

I am wasted man...exhausted...tomorrow we will go over or PM me...
I have written and made the graphics... all this material presented above,...right off my head just tonight...seriously am exhausted.

Thanks for understanding...

Good night


UFO

[lamare]

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[Ufopolitics]

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Thanks Dear Lamare!!

warm regards

[netpoint]

Offset 30 deg and pulsing

Asymmetrical Machines Angles of Interactions Exhibit Two (II)


When Brush is set at 30 from Input...it will have much less time to recharge when hitting Input. contacts..it will be "almost empty" by our extraction at max capacity...

Making sure I understand, when we extract the energy and it is "almost empty", at this point the coil/commutator will begin to touch the M brush and still be touching our G brush (which normally we would not want to happen because we will send input into our G) - but, since we are now pulsing in this example it is not a problem. We just don't pulse it until the commutator is completely away from the M brush? If so, won't that reduce the Angle interaction of the input sweeps? But again, those input angle sweeps won't be relevant anymore since we are pulsing, they become a small blip rather than a sweep, correct?

Thank you for EVERYTHING UFO! This journey is amazing, I feel like a child at Christmas morning everyday when I read here

Dan

[wonza]

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[pmazz850]

12 pole comm

UFO,
You said- In my arrangement there is NOT a Commutator Element with No connection, BUT, I made the groove wider, by filing it...and honestly I should have fill it with High Temp Epoxy...before running Machine...but so far it has been the "Star of the Show" in a few videos I have made...without any accidents...

So in the 12 pole image there are 3 x 4 comm sections joined together? And the black mark is just the break in the comm? Just want to be sure I got it right. Looks like there os one left out between but maybe I just saw it the wrong way.

I just want to say thanks for burning your brain out last night. Still gotta re-read and absorb it all.
Thank you Sir!

[Ufopolitics]

Correct Pmazz

UFO,
You said- In my arrangement there is NOT a Commutator Element with No connection, BUT, I made the groove wider, by filing it...and honestly I should have fill it with High Temp Epoxy...before running Machine...but so far it has been the "Star of the Show" in a few videos I have made...without any accidents...

So in the 12 pole image there are 3 x 4 comm sections joined together? And the black mark is just the break in the comm? Just want to be sure I got it right. Looks like there os one left out between but maybe I just saw it the wrong way.

I just want to say thanks for burning your brain out last night. Still gotta re-read and absorb it all.
Thank you Sir!

Hello Pmazz,


Yes, we are configuring Four elements (4) together, to conform a single Element, Now 12/4=3...We have a total of 3 Combined Elements above, three (3) below...Since We have Three (3) terminals loose above and Three below...from Three Pairs of Coils...
I set the color dots as the "joint" the weld...between elements...that is why you see three color dots per whole element...then black as separation.


Regards


UFO
Correct, the black dot is the separation, isolation GAP between them...

[Ufopolitics]

Hello Netpoint

Making sure I understand, when we extract the energy and it is "almost empty", at this point the coil/commutator will begin to touch the M brush and still be touching our G brush (which normally we would not want to happen because we will send input into our G) - but, since we are now pulsing in this example it is not a problem. We just don't pulse it until the commutator is completely away from the M brush? If so, won't that reduce the Angle interaction of the input sweeps? But again, those input angle sweeps won't be relevant anymore since we are pulsing, they become a small blip rather than a sweep, correct?

Thank you for EVERYTHING UFO! This journey is amazing, I feel like a child at Christmas morning everyday when I read here

Dan

Hello Netpoint,

Well, no, the Element is NOT supposed to touch both M and G Brushes at same time, (that would be very small angle..almost 1 degree, depending on Brush width)...that is why I wrote 30 degrees...more or less...never TOO close though...it has to be "adjusted by measurement to the perfect angle...then set it fix and share with Us...so some do not have to be searching also...right?

The idea on this Mechanical Switching is to...Not to worry about cutting or sending pulses...but by sending a continuous pulsed signal at ANY frequency...the Machine would "interpret" the right way then EXECUTE according to our expectations...


Regards


UFO

[Turion]

UFO,

I sincerely appreciate all the time and energy you have put into this. It is a lot of information, and I continue to go over it and over it. A little more sinks in every time that I do.

I am a hard nose when it comes to data, so for me the proof will always be in what I can see from my own testing. I bought a lot (12) of the little radio shack motors and eventually abandoned them because they are not standardized enough to get any baseline data. I still have two in their packages that I threw on the shelf for another time.

So I have gone with a larger motor (The RAZOR scooter motor) and am building one of those. If anybody else is interested, I have come up with solutions to all the problems inherent in using one of these motors. It requires only a drill, a vise and a grinder of some kind to make the necessary adjustments to get this motor to work and be able to rotate the brushes and hold them in place, which is the big issue with this motor. Now that all those problems have been addressed, I am winding mine. It will probably be Tuesday before I am ready to begin testing because of other commitments. One of the things I did, is I decided that as long as I had to use up TWO cases to make ONE motor, I would go ahead and get a longer shaft that goes all the way through two complete cases joined together, and now I can build the motor on one end of the shaft and the generator on the other end. The space used up by the two end caps for the cases that would have been back to back in the middle leaves me plenty of room to install two extra commutators and brush holders. If you just want to build a single motor without the generator, and it is TRULY a Razor scooter motor, you can use the bar code off the motor to order parts. You need a new end cap (the end that holds the brush holder) a new brush holder (If the cap doesn't come with one already permanently mounted on it) and the brushes, plus a second commutator. It will all fit within the SAME case so you do NOT need to tear apart a second motor like I did. I discovered this just before I cannibalized my second motor, so it's good to know.

I have purchased an adjustable voltage and amperage power supply so that the input into the system can be controlled and measured, and my testing will be as complete as it can possibly be. Your explanation of false input readings was very interesting, so hopefully this will solve that problem as it will then be a known quantity.

Again, thanks for all the hard work and the information. I can't wait to get this thing finished!

Dave

[ewizard]

Turion, One other thought for recording data which I am going to try doing if I can get through building mine. I think it would be of interest to record the motor temperature if you have one of those little laser temperature units (got mine for $10 at Harbor freight). I am going to try running the motor I still have that is stock for say 10 or 15 minutes at 12 volts and record it's temperature. Then when (or if) I can successfully get the two built assymetrically I'll measure the temperature again with the same input and time run.

I'm also considering trying to run a simple load test on the shaft with RPM recorded at 12 volts using two boards held together at one end with the shaft in between them and a digital scale to put a measured pulling weight on the top board if you see what I mean.

BTW I think those Razor scooter motors are a good choice since there are millions of them being made they are fairly cheap to buy or even scrounge from recycle places. When you get the chance please let us know details of mods needed for them.