My Asymmetric Electrodynamic Machines

[sampojo]

Making independently wound "asymmetric" motors with only 1 commutator

I think you can make independently wound electric motors with only one commutator. To be a Tesla style motor they must comply with Tesla patent 390414 as Ufo has stated in this thread, the key of which is the motor must have independently wound coils. It is my theory that, contrary to the stated need for two commutators, it may be done with just one commutator. The conditions are that the motor must have an even number of poles/commutator segments, and it must be wound as many of Ufo's earlier designs, with a given coil having a N coil group on one side of the motor with the winding jumping across the shaft to generate the S coil group, with the wire end of whole coil exiting out the other side of the single brush set. easy-peasy. This will exclude his homopolar designs. Haven't done this yet, so many fish to fry, may try it teaching my grand kids sometime soon... I would not try it on motors with less than 6 poles. I will also be targeting closer to 2 ohms resistance per coil, trying to get similar amp draws as the original shell of the Edison style motors, as this will make performance comparisons much easier.

[baywatch80]

Hi all

here the first of very probably long list of video

good luck at all

Laurent

Ufo assymetric motor part 1 - YouTube

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Hi Woopy,

I've been following ufopolitics's work since a long time and also exhaustively read the comments of his work's replicators and others at EnergeticForum.

It may seem foolish or trivial but can you please explain how the armature winding coil circuit is being completed if you are connecting the +ve and -ve at the diagonally opposite terminals? Some ppl asked this doubt but neither UFO nor his motor replicators answered. This is a very serious doubt plaguing the minds of many observers of UFO's work

[baywatch80]

Making independently wound "asymmetric" motors with only 1 commutator

I think you can make independently wound electric motors with only one commutator. To be a Tesla style motor they must comply with Tesla patent 390414 as Ufo has stated in this thread, the key of which is the motor must have independently wound coils. It is my theory that, contrary to the stated need for two commutators, it may be done with just one commutator. The conditions are that the motor must have an even number of poles/commutator segments, and it must be wound as many of Ufo's earlier designs, with a given coil having a N coil group on one side of the motor with the winding jumping across the shaft to generate the S coil group, with the wire end of whole coil exiting out the other side of the single brush set. easy-peasy. This will exclude his homopolar designs. Haven't done this yet, so many fish to fry, may try it teaching my grand kids sometime soon... I would not try it on motors with less than 6 poles. I will also be targeting closer to 2 ohms resistance per coil, trying to get similar amp draws as the original shell of the Edison style motors, as this will make performance comparisons much easier.

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Hi Sampojo,

After winding the 750W Bosch motor and some others with multiple North-South pairs all around the 360 degree quadrant, UFOPolitics said he did extensive research and came up with an ALL NORTH ROTOR design which is supposed to overcome the drawbacks of North-South pairs type winding such as HIGH amp draw.


This below is UFOPolitics youtube video:

ALL NORTH VERSUS NORTH-SOUTH FIVE POLES ASYMMETRY

https://youtu.be/diY96XR76Fg?si=d6yUZ5WmziBMImvg

I followed UFO's work closely and it stops here. After his disclosure that an ALL NORTH ROTOR is best, i haven't been able to see any development after exhaustively searching EnergeticForum.

Rather than going after commutator based design single or dual, i am trying to conceive a brushless design.

Making those long Shaft armature and fitting dual commutators is one reason why people are finding it difficult to replicate as that requires quite some machining tools and skills.

Would you or anyone you know continue upon this idea? Please spread the word. I am going to post this same message in multiple threads/conversations and also to UFOPolitics to get things going on.

I know this stuff was started way long back but I see many readers still occasionally logging in and checking msgs and posting replies.

regards,
baywatch.

[baywatch80]

Let's take it to the next level - Making UFO Machine from Scratch

Dear Sir and Team ,

Namaste.

After completing the post I understood it's not in order. Please excuse me for this as it's written in some aggravated and agonized moods.
( don't have enough energies to repost it in proper order and presentable language )

Please read...

Have been going by the thread last 3 days and making notes as well (topic-wise) on discussions. Will try making a complete document (already making ) with the questions and answers by respected UFOPOLITICS and other learned members. I am also keeping the relevant links to the posts so that the reader can directly land in that particular post. So far done about 50 pages of the thread.

Before that I surfed across the thread several times. Please note just surfed. But I understood the biggest issue and so far unsolved issue here is the coil gauge. Nowhere it has been standardized with respect to using a particular gauge as our machines are not confined to any particular conventional built.

Now I want to present here my approach. I want to maintain the same gauge (as given by the manufacturer of motor) and the resistance of about 1 ohm as directed by respected UFOPoLITICS) per coil. This demands more room in the armature slots/poles, which is not available if we try winding on the motors we have. Let's not forget that what we are building here is not rebuilding that lousy motor. We are building a UFO MACHINE, not a motor. It has its own demands. Let's not compromise to bring this unique and wonderful machine out - having put in so much of effort, moneys, time and other resources besides the private life of us and our near and dear.

Friends, I don't know whether you are with me in this idea. But I'm going ahead. I'm going to leave experimenting with this 1 hp 15 pole lousy motor. I call it lousy as I think and strongly believe that it is limiting the powerful designs of UFO with its narrow slots in which that witch has been living in for decades. The angels cannot live in narrow and clustered places. They need more room and sufficient open areas to roam freely and happily.

I am going today itself to my workshop to make a design where all the coil sits happily without compromise which I call a red carpet for the angel to get in and happily move around.

I believe I will never face heat of the witch where the angels roam.

If I hurt any of you because of this emotional driven ( not science driven) post, please excuse me. Please correct me f I am wrong on topic I mentioned here.

Dear Sir, I will never leave a space for the witch to enter my UFOMACHINE for silly compromises. Yes I call it silly to compromise on that cluttered stinking narrow slots of the witch, sorry for the unparliamentary words, but please let me as I'm very much agonized over our compromises. As I told you I surfed the thread several times just to understand proper coil configuration like gauge and number of turns and other aspects of it. I couldn't get a solid and confident reply for any questions on that.
I know that you have an answer already with you for those questions.

I know you were looking for more replications those days in the beginning of this thread so that people will understand your machine's concepts and stop speaking ill of your machine (in future) as several replicators would already post their experiences. I know you looked for more replicators so that future builders of your machine should be able to do this without fear , worry and tension. Dear sir, it is accomplished. I am the living example. I never tried replicating your machine on those tiny motors as I didn't belong to the first gen here. By the time I's in, it forwarded a lot. It traveled so much where it didn't leave a scope of doubt for me about its efficacy and that drove me to take it up straight on 1 hp motor.

I know people won't replicate if you ask them to build such a machine from scratch for their good own reasons.

But sir, those days are over. Who remained here are a very few of the batch 1 people and I don't know I'm from which batch but I am also here.

Correct me if I wrong. We'll build it from scratch. We'll give it a measurement Unit of our own. I named it already. THE UNIT IS CALLED UFO or UP.

I think we need to look into this and create some new parameters with respect to the machine capacities, like how conventional motors designed for a particular HP. Please forgive me if I am crossing my limits. But I strongly believe that we NEED to give it some measurement - I mean OUR OWN MEASUREMENT. Let's bring in a gauge called UFO ( i already named it like HP) We need not prove anything here to anybody about the efficacy of UFO machines. Again I apologize for this initiation. Anybody can not and shouldn't bring in any sort of comparisons.

Let the naysayers research to arrive at the conversion constants with other areas of Physics.

We are not bothered.

Friends, need to take a break as I am very much in agitated moods. Give me a short break. I'll settle mentally and come back again to post my next course in detail.

Regards and Namaste


Kumar

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Dear Kumar,

Have you been able to follow UFO's work and make chronologically arranged notes? Did it help u reach any useful conclusion? I have been studying UFO's work since a long time, gathering the scattered bits and pieces of info and separating the useless verbal battles.

After the 750W north-south pair winding, UFO shifted design to all North pairs and the Radio Shack all North Pyramid V shape coil winding geometry. Then he came up with a Dual Pentagon single wire North-South pairs and a very important concept called TOW(Throw Out Angles) which relates to winding geometry and more number of coils translating to HIGHER TORQUE and HIGHER RPMs.

I found no youtube videos after below video.


This below is UFOPolitics youtube video:

ALL NORTH VERSUS NORTH-SOUTH FIVE POLES ASYMMETRY

https://youtu.be/diY96XR76Fg?si=d6yUZ5WmziBMImvg

I followed UFO's work closely and it stops here. After his disclosure that an ALL NORTH ROTOR is best, i haven't been able to see any development after exhaustively searching EnergeticForum.

Rather than going after commutator based design single or dual, i am trying to conceive a brushless design.

Making those long Shaft armature and fitting dual commutators is one reason why people are finding it difficult to replicate as that requires quite some machining tools and skills.

Would you or anyone you know continue upon this idea? Please spread the word. I am going to post this same message in multiple threads/conversations and also to UFOPolitics to get things going on.

I know this stuff was started way long back but I see many readers still occasionally logging in and checking msgs and posting replies.

regards,
baywatch.