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  • Making independently wound "asymmetric" motors with only 1 commutator

    I think you can make independently wound electric motors with only one commutator. To be a Tesla style motor they must comply with Tesla patent 390414 as Ufo has stated in this thread, the key of which is the motor must have independently wound coils. It is my theory that, contrary to the stated need for two commutators, it may be done with just one commutator. The conditions are that the motor must have an even number of poles/commutator segments, and it must be wound as many of Ufo's earlier designs, with a given coil having a N coil group on one side of the motor with the winding jumping across the shaft to generate the S coil group, with the wire end of whole coil exiting out the other side of the single brush set. easy-peasy. This will exclude his homopolar designs. Haven't done this yet, so many fish to fry, may try it teaching my grand kids sometime soon... I would not try it on motors with less than 6 poles. I will also be targeting closer to 2 ohms resistance per coil, trying to get similar amp draws as the original shell of the Edison style motors, as this will make performance comparisons much easier.
    Last edited by sampojo; 07-30-2019, 02:29 AM.
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    • Originally posted by woopy View Post
      Hi all

      here the first of very probably long list of video

      good luck at all

      Laurent

      Ufo assymetric motor part 1 - YouTube
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      Hi Woopy,

      I've been following ufopolitics's work since a long time and also exhaustively read the comments of his work's replicators and others at EnergeticForum.

      It may seem foolish or trivial but can you please explain how the armature winding coil circuit is being completed if you are connecting the +ve and -ve at the diagonally opposite terminals? Some ppl asked this doubt but neither UFO nor his motor replicators answered. This is a very serious doubt plaguing the minds of many observers of UFO's work

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      • Originally posted by sampojo View Post
        Making independently wound "asymmetric" motors with only 1 commutator

        I think you can make independently wound electric motors with only one commutator. To be a Tesla style motor they must comply with Tesla patent 390414 as Ufo has stated in this thread, the key of which is the motor must have independently wound coils. It is my theory that, contrary to the stated need for two commutators, it may be done with just one commutator. The conditions are that the motor must have an even number of poles/commutator segments, and it must be wound as many of Ufo's earlier designs, with a given coil having a N coil group on one side of the motor with the winding jumping across the shaft to generate the S coil group, with the wire end of whole coil exiting out the other side of the single brush set. easy-peasy. This will exclude his homopolar designs. Haven't done this yet, so many fish to fry, may try it teaching my grand kids sometime soon... I would not try it on motors with less than 6 poles. I will also be targeting closer to 2 ohms resistance per coil, trying to get similar amp draws as the original shell of the Edison style motors, as this will make performance comparisons much easier.
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        Hi Sampojo,

        After winding the 750W Bosch motor and some others with multiple North-South pairs all around the 360 degree quadrant, UFOPolitics said he did extensive research and came up with an ALL NORTH ROTOR design which is supposed to overcome the drawbacks of North-South pairs type winding such as HIGH amp draw.


        This below is UFOPolitics youtube video:

        ALL NORTH VERSUS NORTH-SOUTH FIVE POLES ASYMMETRY

        https://youtu.be/diY96XR76Fg?si=d6yUZ5WmziBMImvg

        I followed UFO's work closely and it stops here. After his disclosure that an ALL NORTH ROTOR is best, i haven't been able to see any development after exhaustively searching EnergeticForum.

        Rather than going after commutator based design single or dual, i am trying to conceive a brushless design.

        Making those long Shaft armature and fitting dual commutators is one reason why people are finding it difficult to replicate as that requires quite some machining tools and skills.

        Would you or anyone you know continue upon this idea? Please spread the word. I am going to post this same message in multiple threads/conversations and also to UFOPolitics to get things going on.

        I know this stuff was started way long back but I see many readers still occasionally logging in and checking msgs and posting replies.

        regards,
        ​​​​​​​baywatch.

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