Hello to All,
This would be the Imperial Electric Deal...it may separate into a couple more posts...
I received the email shown below from Mr Batts by the time He already had send Dana's Motor to Imperial for testing:
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Midaztouch @ Energetic Forum <midaztouch4u@yahoo.com> Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM
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UFO
Happy new year! Everything is in play! I've been speaking to the People at Imperial for a few months. The VP has finally agreed to take a look at the motor.
More Good News! Dana's motor arrived to Imperial yesterday! Dana has his hands full with personal issues, so, I will try my best to fill in for him.
Just wanted to update with our progress. Would you like to be part of the communication personally with Imperial or do you wish to remain anonymous?
Midaztouch4u@yahoo.com
Midaz
Midaztouch @ Energetic Forum <midaztouch4u@yahoo.com> Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM
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This is the message:
UFO
Happy new year! Everything is in play! I've been speaking to the People at Imperial for a few months. The VP has finally agreed to take a look at the motor.
More Good News! Dana's motor arrived to Imperial yesterday! Dana has his hands full with personal issues, so, I will try my best to fill in for him.
Just wanted to update with our progress. Would you like to be part of the communication personally with Imperial or do you wish to remain anonymous?
Midaztouch4u@yahoo.com
Midaz
My Answer:
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ufopolitics . <ufopolitics@gmail.com> Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:52 PM
To: "Midaztouch @ Energetic Forum" <midaztouch4u@yahoo.com>
Hello Midaz,
Thanks for letting me know what's going on "behind curtains"...lol
Of course I am interested, Dyanne at Imperial knows who I am...remember that was the Lady I first deal with in order to get my first Two Motors...
I will be revealing my Identity in another Thread I will make soon.
My name is Bond Sir...James Bond...lol
We will be in touch Midaz
Thanks again
Ufopolitics
ufopolitics . <ufopolitics@gmail.com> Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:52 PM
To: "Midaztouch @ Energetic Forum" <midaztouch4u@yahoo.com>
Hello Midaz,
Thanks for letting me know what's going on "behind curtains"...lol
Of course I am interested, Dyanne at Imperial knows who I am...remember that was the Lady I first deal with in order to get my first Two Motors...
I will be revealing my Identity in another Thread I will make soon.
My name is Bond Sir...James Bond...lol
We will be in touch Midaz
Thanks again
Ufopolitics
Dana is busy...
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R. Batts <midaztouch4u@yahoo.com> Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:13 AM
To: "ufopolitics ." <ufopolitics@gmail.com>
UFO
Dana is super busy! He needs his personal time to sort out a lot of life situations. His motor is at Imperial. The VP basically said he can do anything and everything to enhance a future UFO motor... Change magnets, winding machine, aluminum case, better brushes, bigger/smaller, car and motorcycle racing, etc.... He is looking for a better motor to add to his line up. He said that Imperial builds over 90% of the motors for the golf kart market in America. He said money and resources are not an issue.
He is the one who authorize Imperial Electrics to sponsor Lawless Electric racing team. Imperial supplies all of the electric components. Lawless electrics, around the corner from Imperial, has the current worlds fastest electric drag motorcycle; 201mph @ 6.9 seconds quarter mile! Here is the youtube clip:
201 mph @ 6.94 sec - Lawless OCC Electric Drag Bike & Larry "Spiderman" McBride - YouTube
You know me! I want to race, kick some _ss and take names! LOL. But the testing has to be perfect! Dana is out! He's back and fourth with some seriously heavy issues. Thats why I asked you if you want to be part of the communication with Imperial. Imperial only, not the thread. This is a great chance to move forward! At this juncture, we can't afford mistakes.
Mr Bond, your identity is safe with me! We just need this testing done correctly
Richard
Richard
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R. Batts <midaztouch4u@yahoo.com> Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:13 AM
To: "ufopolitics ." <ufopolitics@gmail.com>
UFO
Dana is super busy! He needs his personal time to sort out a lot of life situations. His motor is at Imperial. The VP basically said he can do anything and everything to enhance a future UFO motor... Change magnets, winding machine, aluminum case, better brushes, bigger/smaller, car and motorcycle racing, etc.... He is looking for a better motor to add to his line up. He said that Imperial builds over 90% of the motors for the golf kart market in America. He said money and resources are not an issue.
He is the one who authorize Imperial Electrics to sponsor Lawless Electric racing team. Imperial supplies all of the electric components. Lawless electrics, around the corner from Imperial, has the current worlds fastest electric drag motorcycle; 201mph @ 6.9 seconds quarter mile! Here is the youtube clip:
201 mph @ 6.94 sec - Lawless OCC Electric Drag Bike & Larry "Spiderman" McBride - YouTube
You know me! I want to race, kick some _ss and take names! LOL. But the testing has to be perfect! Dana is out! He's back and fourth with some seriously heavy issues. Thats why I asked you if you want to be part of the communication with Imperial. Imperial only, not the thread. This is a great chance to move forward! At this juncture, we can't afford mistakes.
Mr Bond, your identity is safe with me! We just need this testing done correctly
Richard
Richard
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Hello Richard,
My name is Raul Lorenzo,
It is a shame that Dana is having problems and will be out of this...hope he could join Us later on.
Like I said, I have spoken to Dyann before under my real name...and after the UFO Kit was negotiated, I went back to her about the issues we were having in shipping accidents and lowering prices to get more units sold, etc....then I mentioned my nickname and she laughed...promising to keep the secret...
It would be awesome to have Imperial build an Asymmetric Type with better/stronger Magnets, Brushes, etc,etc
Let me know how could I be of any help
Regards
Ufopolitics
My name is Raul Lorenzo,
It is a shame that Dana is having problems and will be out of this...hope he could join Us later on.
Like I said, I have spoken to Dyann before under my real name...and after the UFO Kit was negotiated, I went back to her about the issues we were having in shipping accidents and lowering prices to get more units sold, etc....then I mentioned my nickname and she laughed...promising to keep the secret...
It would be awesome to have Imperial build an Asymmetric Type with better/stronger Magnets, Brushes, etc,etc
Let me know how could I be of any help
Regards
Ufopolitics
Hello Richard,
We set the motor you sent David up on out dynamometer today, but quickly realized there were 5 black leads and 3 black leads. Several different colors of tape were on these as well as some marking on the end shields, but to play it safe can you get me in touch with the correct person which can tell us where to apply power. I thought these would be grouped into +/-, but that isn’t the case.
We are ready to run this as soon as we can get this question answered.
Thanks,
Joe Engle
Engineering Manager
Imperial Electric Co. / Scott DC Products
We set the motor you sent David up on out dynamometer today, but quickly realized there were 5 black leads and 3 black leads. Several different colors of tape were on these as well as some marking on the end shields, but to play it safe can you get me in touch with the correct person which can tell us where to apply power. I thought these would be grouped into +/-, but that isn’t the case.
We are ready to run this as soon as we can get this question answered.
Thanks,
Joe Engle
Engineering Manager
Imperial Electric Co. / Scott DC Products
After Dana send some emails explaining the connections...
This is the response from Dr. Higley:
"There are four wires with a piece of tape on them. These are positive. Each pair goes straight thru from commutator to commutator. When looking at the motor from the front end, the set on the upper right is P1. The one on the lower left is the P15 and is run or powered in series or parallel with P1. The other two sets are also powered the similar way and are called P8 ( on the upper left) and P 28>
Hopes this helps , I can sent pictures if needed."
Thank you,
Dana Higley
"There are four wires with a piece of tape on them. These are positive. Each pair goes straight thru from commutator to commutator. When looking at the motor from the front end, the set on the upper right is P1. The one on the lower left is the P15 and is run or powered in series or parallel with P1. The other two sets are also powered the similar way and are called P8 ( on the upper left) and P 28>
Hopes this helps , I can sent pictures if needed."
Thank you,
Dana Higley
The Final Results, sparking and No Efficiency advantages shown at all...
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R. Batts <midaztouch4u@yahoo.com> Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:27 PM
To: "ufopolitics ." <ufopolitics@gmail.com>
Raul
We have heavy sparking at 48v.UFO
How are you doing today? The Imperial team sent me a vid of the motor having severe sparking under a light load @48volts.
Mail:
Hello Richard,
We ran several speed torque tests on the motor in the parallel and series configuration at 48 volts. Attached is the data, please note there are several different tabs with a variety of information.
We also noticed that the motor was not commutating well. Very heavy sparking while running even under light load. Attached is a couple seconds of video showing what we saw. The surface finish on the commutator also indicated this was happening prior to our running the motor. Heavy bar edge burning.
Unfortunately we did not see the high efficiency that you mentioned in previous conversations. If you have any other suggestions for testing this please feel free to comment, otherwise please let me know where and to whom you would like the motor returned.
Thanks, Joe
When I had my motor run at a last week company, I had the same problem. What should be done for trouble shooting.
R. Batts <midaztouch4u@yahoo.com> Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:27 PM
To: "ufopolitics ." <ufopolitics@gmail.com>
Raul
We have heavy sparking at 48v.UFO
How are you doing today? The Imperial team sent me a vid of the motor having severe sparking under a light load @48volts.
Mail:
Hello Richard,
We ran several speed torque tests on the motor in the parallel and series configuration at 48 volts. Attached is the data, please note there are several different tabs with a variety of information.
We also noticed that the motor was not commutating well. Very heavy sparking while running even under light load. Attached is a couple seconds of video showing what we saw. The surface finish on the commutator also indicated this was happening prior to our running the motor. Heavy bar edge burning.
Unfortunately we did not see the high efficiency that you mentioned in previous conversations. If you have any other suggestions for testing this please feel free to comment, otherwise please let me know where and to whom you would like the motor returned.
Thanks, Joe
When I had my motor run at a last week company, I had the same problem. What should be done for trouble shooting.
UFO No Load and Performance test report 2-17-14.xls... Test results
ufopolitics . <ufopolitics@gmail.com> Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM
To: "R. Batts" <midaztouch4u@yahoo.com>
Hey Richard,
There must be a mistake when hooking this Motor...
If you notice the RPM's are extremely LOW from 24V and even worst at 48V.
I know Dana's Machine was awesome, could be seen in some of his videos...so generating such low RPM's is just a sign of wrong hook up.
Remember my motor does around 1300-1500 RPM's at 12V...Watch:
IMPERIAL_RPMS_TEST_12V - YouTube
Watch at 36V:
TESTING_ALL_GATES RPMS_AT_36V - YouTube
NOW, I do not think they are doing this type of Switch Testing / Turning ON...ONE by ONE Gates...remember the drawings I post on Thread?
Send Videos if You want Richard.
Let me know
Regards
Raul
ufopolitics . <ufopolitics@gmail.com> Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM
To: "R. Batts" <midaztouch4u@yahoo.com>
Hey Richard,
There must be a mistake when hooking this Motor...
If you notice the RPM's are extremely LOW from 24V and even worst at 48V.
I know Dana's Machine was awesome, could be seen in some of his videos...so generating such low RPM's is just a sign of wrong hook up.
Remember my motor does around 1300-1500 RPM's at 12V...Watch:
IMPERIAL_RPMS_TEST_12V - YouTube
Watch at 36V:
TESTING_ALL_GATES RPMS_AT_36V - YouTube
NOW, I do not think they are doing this type of Switch Testing / Turning ON...ONE by ONE Gates...remember the drawings I post on Thread?
Send Videos if You want Richard.
Let me know
Regards
Raul
Ufopolitics
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