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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by Zardox View Post
    I am still here watching and following all of this. My work has taken me other places for the time being but the asymetrical motors are still my main goal. We have all learned Tesla's work from your interpretations UFO and the work must continue it is too important to quit. As for Midaz, even if he were to stumble on to something great his off putting style makes it impossible for me to pay attention to him. I do hope the best for him but I am not part of his so called "team" that he conveniently tried to high-jack.

    Lets keep going.
    Thank You Zardox,

    But hey, I MUST clear all this BS generated by this A HOLE, He has caused me so much trouble up to now...that I have abandoned everything just to finish this FOCKER. (Yes written with "O" just put an "U" on it....)

    Yes, I do, I do recognize it is NOT the way to GO...BUT, I am pissed off big time...and am not gonna end till HE IS GONE GOODBYE fropm this ENTIRE FORUM.

    It will SERVE as a "History Case". So it will EVER AGAIN REPEATS!

    THis is ME. Sorry, it may not be of the "like" of many here...but hey, we are NOT Perfect.


    Ufopolitics

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  • Zardox
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    The work must continue

    I am still here watching and following all of this. My work has taken me other places for the time being but the asymetrical motors are still my main goal. We have all learned Tesla's work from your interpretations UFO and the work must continue it is too important to quit. As for Midaz, even if he were to stumble on to something great his off putting style makes it impossible for me to pay attention to him. I do hope the best for him but I am not part of his so called "team" that he conveniently tried to high-jack.

    Lets keep going.

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by GChilders View Post
    The word wind is correctly used here. It has nothing to do with wind blowing in the breeze. Is it correct to use a verb for a noun? That is debatable. Wind pronounced like wine with a d on the end is a verb that is used to wind a clock, wind a cable, wind a coil. While winding a coil is present tense, and wound is past tense. If anyone has a poor grasp of the English language it is you sir.

    I never pronounced the word as wind as in win with a d on the end.

    I am not here to be in a "pissing contest" as you put it. Only to share my findings as I was asked to.

    Cheers

    Garry

    Garry,

    I don't know why you have assumed that Iotayodi was referring to 'your video'?!

    It was kind of confusing that Iotayodi did not address his post-comment, however, it is VERY CLEAR at minute 1:10 on video below...when this guy says "PAIR WENDS AND GROUP WENDS"

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaE1yKZP20Y#t=71[/VIDEO]

    And YES, Midaz, Richard or whatever is into a Pissing Off Contest here!

    Please, review that video above just at 1:10 and realize who that comment was directed to.

    Your Video is PERFECT, no matter what...and actually when Your Video discloses so much Technical Info and so much POSITIVE WILL to reach the TRUTH... I really don't care how bad spoken in any chosen language mistakes are made, that is a big difference from this DELUSIONAL INDIVIDUAL here that not even speaking well his NATIVE LANGUAGE...He insist he is correct.

    He is the "kind" that goes around pronouncing AKSING Questions...

    Sorry about your confusion here, but again, I bet anything that Iotayodi was referring to Midaz, Richard whatever Video.


    Regards


    Ufopolitics

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  • GChilders
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    Originally posted by Iotayodi View Post
    Your video just lowered your credibility. Your grasp of the English language is atrocious. Spelling is one thing but referring to a winding as if it were the "wind" blowing is mind boggling! As far as I can tell your just here for a pissing contest which lowers your credibility even more. The real test is to put a motor in service for a period of time anyway. There would have to be a significant rise in efficiency to be of any real use on a mass scale.
    The word wind is correctly used here. It has nothing to do with wind blowing in the breeze. Is it correct to use a verb for a noun? That is debatable. Wind pronounced like wine with a d on the end is a verb that is used to wind a clock, wind a cable, wind a coil. While winding a coil is present tense, and wound is past tense. If anyone has a poor grasp of the English language it is you sir.

    I never pronounced the word as wind as in win with a d on the end.

    I am not here to be in a "pissing contest" as you put it. Only to share my findings as I was asked to.

    Cheers

    Garry
    Last edited by GChilders; 05-14-2015, 01:40 AM.

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  • iankoglin
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    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    To All other Members attending this Thread,

    I have exposed here a serious amount of information over a period of more than Two Years ago. It could be observed in all my main Public Channels.

    YouTube Channel

    UFOPOLITICS.COM

    Graphic Albums

    Plus all the text written on this entire Forum, mainly in my main Four Threads here.

    It could be understood even by an 'average' mind that all this work has consumed a great deal of time and I have uploaded with completely good will and free access to anyone that would like to review, copy or reproduce without even to login.

    It has come the time now that you tell me what we all do...and I consider it is only two ways to go here.


    1-Ask the Administrators to close this Thread, and I will delete all related material, and close all related channels above, which would take me minutes to execute. Some of them, for my own development and research, I will just convert them to completely private sites, without access to public viewing or any free discussion.

    Then All of You could migrate to this guy's thread and keep working there with him.


    or

    2-Help me to get rid of this annoying guy by writing to the Administrators of this Forum and requesting to completely Ban him from this entire Forum.


    At this point I can not stand this guy anymore, his disgusting attitude towards my work, as his repetitive and harassing actions, trying to set me against everyone here, to diminish all my work, over and over, has gotten to top the glass of my patience.


    I am sorry, but time to me is ESSENTIAL, in order to be working in a peaceful environment I do not like to be disturbed, having to enter every time about the same, over and over arguments with this person...I really do not need this, and I am NOT willing to continue with the same BS arguments and reading every morning the same BS from this harassing guy.


    If I just get "silence" from all of you, I will interpret this silence as to go for the First (1) Option, then I will proceed to execute.


    Many thanks for taking the time to read all this above and help me to reach a final decision, and I am sorry for such sad circumstances.





    Respectfully



    Ufopolitics
    G'Day UFO
    I for one do not want to see you pull your imformative drawings and explanations from this or any of your sites.
    I for one have found you to be very obliging when different ones have been sincerely replicating your drawings and findings and showing thier results here for all to see.
    I have been very busy as I mentioned some time ago that I had some projects I had started prior to me starting to replicate your findings I am almost finished thes projects.

    I would like if Midaz would just stick to his thread and not make his disruptive comments here he has said his ideas are better than yours I also remember that over the time he has poster here he has not been replicating any of your diagrams (with the exception of the Imperial motor ) but has always been interjecting or rather fault finding with your comments and answers
    Midaz has always telling/ asking other members here what they should do with thier projects never even trying to do them himself

    I feel that you should just ignore his disparaging remarks do not reply to any of his comments and please continue with your experimenting and showing us your results as you stated in your very first post that you were disclosing your findings here.

    I am waiting for the time I can spend to wind all north poles on one of the remaining Imperial motors I have.


    Please Midaz do not post here any more of your disruptive comments. You have started your own thread please continue there so as to keep the harmony here

    Midaz I really appreciate the quad JS controller that Dana made for you that you never used I eventually use it with my next build and have the software to run it

    Every one knows that if you have a fire and you do not want a fire you do not keep adding fuel to it and it will eventually go out
    Kindest regards to all
    kogs

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by Midaztouch View Post
    #4

    Raul,

    Please tell everyone when and were to find the post when YOU made the three pole first... It looks like another member made the 3pole motor first. Then, as usual, you only made the CAD and put you name all over it.

    Midaz


    I am still waiting for your "proof" that I did not do the Three Pole Motor first...

    What happen?...couldn't find that member who did it?

    Did you called him?!...no answer?


    Come on!!
    Last edited by Ufopolitics; 05-13-2015, 10:35 PM.

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by HuntingRoss View Post
    ---S---



    --S---

    @UFO

    It is my understanding that we have agreed on all the critical angles making up the connect/disconnect sequence including the 'final agreement' which was including the brush width in the calculation...the sweep angle...the roll off angle or what ever we want to call it.

    We are both at a disadvantage, it seems, by not having the complete motor specs. But in fact the only critical spec missing from this 10 pole arrangement is the brush width which is very important. A 36º comm segment will sweep over an 18º brush from 1º ON to 0º OFF in 53º. A 36º comm segment will sweep over a 36º brush from 1º ON to 0º OFF in 71º.

    If the sweep angle is 53º then there is 37º for connect and disconnect. Firing at 27º or 20º leaves a 10º or 17º disconnect.

    If the sweep angle is 71º then there is 19º for connect and disconnect. I think we can see there is an issue with this structure.

    The position of the brush is unimportant. The size of the brush can be critical.

    For your second image, C2 has just disconnected at 21º from the SSB, C1 is therefore 36º + 21º = 57º back from the SSB. The brush appears to be 18º wide. To obtain the connection angle we need to back up the coil by 18º. This places the C1 bisector 36º + 18º + 21º = 75º back from the SSB, 15º forward of the NSB.

    The timing margin appears to be 10º assuming a minimum 5º firing angle.

    If it transpires that the brush is not 18º but 36º then we lose the margin and find ourselves in a deficit of 3º.

    If Sam can confirm the brush width then we will know for certain what is achievable with this motor.

    Happy Hunting

    mark


    Mark,

    First time I would say this...but my head right now...is not about starting to respond to your excellent post above in details of angles and such...

    But I will tell you this...I know what Sampojo could do it just fine...as I know there is no CAD, no Mathematical Equation, No Angle Calculations...like the REAL AND ACTUAL TESTING with your own model, checking if or not it disconnects at the right momentum.

    Kind Regards and hope you understand


    Ufopolitics

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by Aaron View Post
    UFO, please check your PM.

    Thanks Aaron,

    I already responded


    Regards


    Ufopolitics

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  • Aaron
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    pm

    UFO, please check your PM.

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  • HuntingRoss
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    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    [IMG][/IMG]

    Now, the "Perfect Neutral" position for this case would be setting the 36º exactly in the center of 90º angle from stators...right?...and that would be 90-36=54/2=27º...meaning you would start firing exactly 27º away from North of C1 and 27º closer to South Stator Bisector of C2.

    So, firing closer C2 Bisector to the Attract South Stator Bisector, say at 20º...would set your repulse at 34º right?
    ---S---

    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    [IMG][/IMG]

    This CAD's are NOT PERFECT, since I have NO MEASUREMENTS OF THE REAL ROTOR, COMMUTATOR AND MAGNETS RADIUS AND ARCS SEGMENTS CIRCUMFERENCES...

    THE SIZE OF THE BRUSHES DON'T MEAN SH*T...BRUSHES COULD BE MOVED AROUND AS WELL AS MODIFY THEM AS THE BUILDER PLEASES TO...
    --S---

    @UFO

    It is my understanding that we have agreed on all the critical angles making up the connect/disconnect sequence including the 'final agreement' which was including the brush width in the calculation...the sweep angle...the roll off angle or what ever we want to call it.

    We are both at a disadvantage, it seems, by not having the complete motor specs. But in fact the only critical spec missing from this 10 pole arrangement is the brush width which is very important. A 36º comm segment will sweep over an 18º brush from 1º ON to 0º OFF in 53º. A 36º comm segment will sweep over a 36º brush from 1º ON to 0º OFF in 71º.

    If the sweep angle is 53º then there is 37º for connect and disconnect. Firing at 27º or 20º leaves a 10º or 17º disconnect.

    If the sweep angle is 71º then there is 19º for connect and disconnect. I think we can see there is an issue with this structure.

    The position of the brush is unimportant. The size of the brush can be critical.

    For your second image, C2 has just disconnected at 21º from the SSB, C1 is therefore 36º + 21º = 57º back from the SSB. The brush appears to be 18º wide. To obtain the connection angle we need to back up the coil by 18º. This places the C1 bisector 36º + 18º + 21º = 75º back from the SSB, 15º forward of the NSB.

    The timing margin appears to be 10º assuming a minimum 5º firing angle.

    If it transpires that the brush is not 18º but 36º then we lose the margin and find ourselves in a deficit of 3º.

    If Sam can confirm the brush width then we will know for certain what is achievable with this motor.

    Happy Hunting

    mark

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by admin View Post
    Hello All,

    We have received your emails and have made some post deletions and also have made requests to specific members.
    Thanks, but...please could you tell me which posts you deleted?

    'cause I am still looking at all Midaztouch Posts here as above member just posted.

    If there are any posts you feel do not coincide with the forum guidelines, please do send us a message and we will tend to them... Same goes for anymore disruption of this thread.

    Thank you

    Admin
    Yes, I am still seeing many disruptive posts from this Midaztouch Member here.

    Even other offensive post from Midaztouch to Garry Childers at below link:

    http://www.energeticforum.com/274961-post7624.html

    Please read the Orange words at the end...

    BUT, let's put it even more simple:

    Please delete ALL posts from Midaztouch on My Thread here

    as well as not allowing Him to post here anymore.

    Please, Do you think you would be able to do that?

    He has opened another thread with all the related material where he can post as he pleases...which is basically a bad reproduction from mine...which is fine so far...that would be another issue to be dealt in another debate/thread on this same Forum


    Respectfully


    Ufopolitics

    P.D: I will send all text included here through a PM to Aaron Murakami and to Administrators in General.

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  • Fessor
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    Dont get it

    if admin can't see Midaz being very personal, then the result will be obvious, and the show goes on. Allow me putting it straight, I personally find Midaz's postings very personal and immature, ruins any decent and constructive cooperation.
    Sad...

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  • admin
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    Energetic Forum

    Hello All,

    We have received your emails and have made some post deletions and also have made requests to specific members.

    If there are any posts you feel do not coincide with the forum guidelines, please do send us a message and we will tend to them... Same goes for anymore disruption of this thread.

    Thank you

    Admin

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  • Midaztouch
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    This is the same fight you had with Ross. I just didn't say anything to his defense because I was upset with him.
    Sorry Ross



    Raul, you need to look at 3 Frames. Using one coil only.

    1.) Just connected
    2.) Halfway
    3.) Just disconnected
    In this order


    Know body here is perfect. get it! Know... nobody is... Perfect spelling

    Keep it Clean and Green
    Midaz




    The brushes look to be the same size as a commutator segment.
    Attached Files
    Last edited by Midaztouch; 05-13-2015, 05:32 PM.

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by JC4me View Post
    Hello All,

    I am tapping out after learning this from Imperial Electrics new distributor

    From: nwarsheski@goferparts.com
    Date: Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:41 AM

    Hey Ward,

    Thanks for taking the time to talk this morning. Please see the pricing you requested below:


    1.) Price on P56MD003 - Brand new motor will be $527.26. This motor has an 8 week lead time with Imperial.

    2. The kit part # is 054021. As we spoke about last week, your price is $450.46 and this kit has a 10 week lead time. I will send the confirmation shortly. Gofer part # IMPP56MD3

    3.) New itemized kit line-item prices, please see the breakdown below:

    0510052 rotor core assembly - $70.00
    0502029 stator core assembly - $98.30
    0566001 bearing -$8.00
    0566000 bearing - $8.00
    0567028c comms 2@$48.00 - $96.00
    0515032 brush assembly - $68.00
    0596081 1/4"x 1" key - $4.00
    0596093 long bolt 2@$4.00 - $8.00
    0514120 com bracket assembly - $116.30
    0541008 driver end bracket assembly - $49.70
    0582036 com bracket cover - $8.00

    Total is $534.30

    If you need anything else, please let me know

    Thanks!

    Nikki


    What made me cancel my order request was it took 2 weeks between Imperial and GoferParts.com to get all this. As of this AM the order was still not placed. Yesterday i asked for individual parts Nikki was still waiting for the Kit PN to be set-up in their system. Lucky i asked this.

    I know it is still the best per easiest, but i am out of my league. I cannot afford this much at moment, and could i wait any longer for an order to be placed. It should not be so hard to spend money.

    What irks me is that the parts we need were jacked up the most. No deal.

    -Ward
    Hello JC,

    Yes, you did good...don't buy this rip off "deal"

    Below is the original price that Machine Alive worked out for us...

    Just ask for UFO kit and this is what you get.

    0510052 rotor core assembly $ 35.00
    0502029 stator core assembly $ 49.15
    0566001 bearing $4.00
    0566000 bearing $4.00
    0567028c comms 2@$24.00 $48.00
    0515032 brush assembly $34.00
    0596081 1/4"x 1" key $2.00
    0596093 long bolt 2@2.00 $4.00
    0514120 com bracket assembly $58.15
    0541008 driver end bracket assembly $24.85
    0582036 com bracket cover $4.00

    Total $267.15

    If you want just the motor, factory, and symmetrically wound , #P56MD003its now $378.50.
    As is clearly seen they DOUBLED the price for each item, what a rip off!

    And now they even went higher?...

    Crazy!...Now the full assembled symmetric motor is LESS than the UFO Kit?...make sense?

    JC, I will find out what's going on and will PM You later on.

    Please be patient.


    Regards



    Ufopolitics

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