Physicists lost reality in Mathematics

[wayne.ct]

Minkowski

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, blah. Some people have the ability to talk fast and don't always make sense. They put forth a bunch of claims as if they were facts and what happens then? If you are skeptical, you question the claims and facts. And, if you are gullible, you accept the claims and facts at face value. Is there a middle ground? If you are willing to accept such a thing, there are shades of grey. If you tend toward absolutes, there is only true and false, black and white, light and darkness.

IMO, there are big egos that think they are right and you cannot question the truthfulness of what they assert. This is typical of humanists. They thing, say and apparently believe that if the carbon based life forms are allowed enough time (and space?) they can solve all mysteries and understand all of reality. If you don't buy that theory you are forced to accept that the CBLFs are not god-like and there is some sort of super being. Does it really boil down to one's personal experience, education and DNA?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, blah. Do your own experiment in the real or thought universe and base your life and behavior on the results. What other choice do you have? Live a life of ignorance?

So called main line physics has lost its bearings and it is largely the focus on mathematics that is the cause. I agree on that, Socratus, if that is your view.

[socratus]

I run into people that claim that math is more critical than reality all the time.
drives me nuts.
and I have not yet found a mathematical solution for the issue.

When mathematics is going in front of physics
then many surprised things can suddenly appears.
===
” Mathematician may say all that he wants,
but physicist must maintain at least some spark of common sense “
/ Josiah Willard Gibbs /
And Feynman had the same opinion:
” Since the mathematical physicists have taken over, theoretical
physics has gone to pot. The bizarre concepts generated out of
the over use and misinterpretation of mathematics would be funny
if it were not for the tragedy of the waste in time, manpower, money,
and the resulting misdirection”
====================

[socratus]

I run into people that claim that math is more critical than reality all the time.
drives me nuts.
and I have not yet found a mathematical solution for the issue.

Maybe this problem is not mathematical but psychological;
''Old habits die hard''
===

[spacecase0]

I run into people that claim that math is more critical than reality all the time.
drives me nuts.
and I have not yet found a mathematical solution for the issue.

[socratus]

Physicists lost reality in Mathematics
a)
1905 - Einstein involved negative time in* SRT
( nobody knew what negative time really was)
b)
1908 - Minkowski* said that Einstein's* equations look ''ugly''
And he gave beautiful mathematical* solution changing
Einstein's ''ugly'' negative time into a positive time.
Minkowski* explained his solution as a* ''space-cone''
Today professors say to students:
''you cannot be physicists if you don't understand* Minkowski's
beautiful mathematical solution''*
( but nobody explains* what ''space-cone''* or 4-D* really is )
c)
Then in 1919* Kaluza and* O.Klein* involved* 5-D
And* in 1969* ''string''- physicists involved 11-D, 27-D, M-D*
These* super - D* have never been observed, but physicists believe
that they are on the right way

You cannot do more complex arithmetic if you don't know what* 2+2 = 4
and if you don't know what 4-D really* is,* then more complex dimensions
are only* mathematical play for mathematicians
====
a) Classic view: dimension = direction
There are Descartes' three dimensions in space as
three directions in space. The point where all directions
are united shows place where object is.
We don't need more dimension, 3-D is enough to solve problem.
Looking on watch we know at what time object was in this point.

b) Minkowskki view:
there are four dimensions in space as four direction in space
but this ''space'' is not ordinary, it is very specific - '' an absolute spacetime''.
In this ''absolute spacetime'' we don't know the point and time
where object is exactly
=====