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  • #31
    While there were plenty of instances of this type of selfless behavior during the Katrina incident in New Orleans, there was also a whole lot of people taking advantage. My son is a firefighter and was sent down to help out a month or more after the fact. Basically, all they ended up doing was wasting taxpayer's money. The government was paying people to clean up the mess and my son said that people hauling garbage to the dumps were trying to cheat and get more money by padding their loads. I don't remember exactly how the scam worked, but they seemed to be getting away with it quite regularly. He ended up being more of a cop keeping people from taking advantage than helping people who needed help. I know there are areas of this country where the type of stuff you describe happening in Australia would happen, but there are also areas where selfish people would be more the norm.
    Thanks for sharing the love!
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    • #32
      There has been looting, three cases, while the floods were in progress. In both cases people were caught mucking around with other people's boats that had been washed up by the floods. One of the cases involves a man who owns his own much nicer boat down in southport, and was using a rope and a weight to try to snag a boat that was caught near his home, he claims, to try to secure it to something, and it's starting to look like he is pretty legit. the other case was two young guys who actually were out to steal themselves a boat.


      And apparently graffiti artists from all over the east coast converged on brisbane when word got out via national media that trains would be left parked at stations as the railyards were expected to be flooded. half of the city's rail cars were "decorated" in one night, that's got to be some kind of record.



      I don't mind the good graffiti, the artistic stuff. Shame they're going to clean all the trains, it'd be a really interesting and very public reminder of the whole event. It's almost a shame all that urban art has been lost, most of it without being photographed, lost like tears in the rain as they say.
      Last edited by noises; 01-18-2011, 11:42 PM.
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      • #33
        Land Shark!

        Bull sharks seen in flooded streets | Offbeat | Weird News, Odd and Freaky Stories in Toowoomba | Toowoomba Chronicle

        TWO bull sharks have been spotted swimming past the McDonald’s restaurant in Goodna.

        Goodna butcher Steve Bateman saw one of the sharks swimming through the flooded waters of Williams Street near his bucher’s shop in the St Ives shopping centre yesterday.

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        • #34
          ^ there have been fatal attacks by bull sharks in the brisbane river before this, it's a known thing that they're there, as they are in many inland river systems.

          Cue the 'Jaws' theme: Fishermen are catching 8-foot sharks in the Potomac River

          Bris river is still tidal up past the city, so, yeah, bullsharks are known to inhabit brackish water, and can easily tolerate fresh water. Still, pretty amazing to see a shark swimming through a shopping district of a city of 2,000,000 people.

          Man did we ever get some rain last night! over 100mm in a 45 minute storm that was like a mini cyclone (hurricane.) Winds that were blowing the rain sideways took down trees at friend's houses, a bit of flash flooding around the place (we don't build on floodplains here... extremely heavy rain is a fact of life, it'd be dumb to pretend it isn't.) Storms set to continue over the week, to coincide with 3.3m king tides that always back up our stormwater drains, so minor floods in the far north expected in the coming days. I'll stay safe always do

          Of more concern is the pattern of afternoon heavy rain and thunderstorms over the area that bore the brunt of the worst flooding last week, also set to continue this week, and the high tides which may see homes in Brisbane flooded again. (but a slow, creeping, high tide flood, none of the deadly, violently fast moving water we saw last week.)

          Lucky for us the climate isn't changing! So fortunate the five once in a hundred year and two once in two hundred year flooding events we've seen this year, plus the extensive flooding last year, and the year before that, and the year before that are just one off, once in a hundred year anomalies, and not in any way frequent. Otherwise we could be in some real trouble.
          Last edited by noises; 01-19-2011, 11:22 PM.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by ImBill View Post
            I know there are areas of this country where the type of stuff you describe happening in Australia would happen, but there are also areas where selfish people would be more the norm.
            Thanks for sharing the love!
            Melbourne and Sydney are the only places where Autralian's aren't very Australian. And even there, the ones who loot and rob and bash are in a very, very small minority. Nothing a volunteer army of misguided racist bogans armed with beer bottles couldn't deal with.

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            • #36
              I know there are areas of this country where the type of stuff you describe happening in Australia would happen, but there are also areas where selfish people would be more the norm. Thanks for sharing the love!
              Also theres much more diversity with larger numbers people, afterall texas alone has a bigger population than australia. It great to see people help each other none the less!

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              • #37
                In any case, I'm glad and thankful to live in the lucky country and to have been brought up with the ideals of mateship, charity and community instead of "you can make it to the top if you climb over everyone else to get there." Of course, our government has lost the plot, we're just another puppet two party faux democracy run by the world's reserve banking cartels. But at least we're allowed to protest about it (and our other flaws, which we readily admit to,) without getting detained at an airport. That's a plus.
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                • #38
                  For my sins, I've had a menacing, stationary low pressure system rotating about 75km north east of me for the last three days. It might form into a cyclone, they say. Well, tell that to the wind that blows the rain sideways, and comes and goes in regular gusting surges. And this thing's big, too. It's being fed by the monsoonal trough, which is extremely strong this year, and is building in the warm water near the coast, before the continental shelf. And the rain! Incredible! Just, non stop, and HEAVY. It's the wet season, and I'm surrounded by rainforest, so a bit of precipitation is hardly out of order, but this storm cell sitting there off the coast, not moving, just rotating around it's own center, and pretending it's not a cyclone for days on end thing is just, well, freaky.

                  The sea was angry that day, my friends.
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                  • #39
                    Let’s hope that this is just a freak of nature and not the work of some freaky scientists.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mad Scientist View Post
                      Let’s hope that this is just a freak of nature and not the work of some freaky scientists.
                      Or misinformed innocent researcher.... The informed one surely fight to help for the better.

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                      • #41
                        Cyclones do the weirdest things, I was looking at some old storm tracks just the other day, in 1956 two TROPICAL cyclones hit New Zealand, one of them hit the bottom end of the south island. (that's south of the tropic of cancer, and then more than halfway to Antartica from the tropics, in perspective it's like a hurricane spinning up east of Cuba, then tooling up through the Atlantic and veering in to land when it reaches New York. Cyclones are freaky by nature.

                        If a low sits off the coast for three days and doesn't move more than 3 days, then suddenly jumps another 120km out to sea and forms into a cyclone, that's just business as usual. Will it come back five times stronger? Will it head 500km south in two days and dump another flood rain on top of the already saturated and still partially inundated south east? Don't know. Have to wait and see It's kind of like christmas, only instead of a new bike or a playstation, you might get up and find a coconut palm, or your neighbor's boat in your living room. Oh well, surprises are nice
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                        • #42
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                          • #43
                            Cloudbusters &amp; Atmospheric Chaos?????

                            This is an informative article on Oranur from the Orgonomic Ecology Blog:

                            This blog is an educational resource for activists concerned about the rapid proliferation of cloudbusters and the often irresponsible misuse of them by persons unfamiliar with ecological ramifications. It presents case histories of weather-related damage to the environment by improper cloudbusting.

                            Saturday, November 20, 2010

                            Oranur

                            Orgonomic Ecology: Oranur

                            But while oranur is already a global problem, cloudbusters are still a problem on a small enough scale that it is still possible to sometimes figure out which cloudbuster project is the cause of a particular weather event. At least, so far. But the point is now near when, thanks to the internet making it so easy to spread the word around about how to build cloudbusters, cloudbuster proliferation will be so extensive that it will no longer be practical to bother trying to figure out who caused any given weather anomoly. If there are too many cloudbusters operating all over the place without any of them knowing about each other, it would make little difference if there were a few more or a few less. The result would still be atmospheric chaos.

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                            • #44


                              1,800km wide Cyclone (hurricane) Yasi which is INTENSIFYING It's currently the size Katrina, and is expected to hit the coast in two or three days. (three or four days after the last cyclone hit us, the one that went out into the pacific then turned around and swung back in, for a laugh.) Two big cyclones in a week... is that anomalous?

                              sigh. highway's going to be cut again. Yes, I'll stay safe. And probably a bit drunk, in the company of friends, as we do. Official warnings say prepare for four days without power but I don't need mains power or a phoneline to stay online.

                              To be honest, I always find a big cyclone exiting more than worrying. battening down everything, getting things up high in case of storm surge, stocking up on food and water and then everyone goes to one person's place to wait it out for a cyclone party. (usually someone with a generator so we can enjoy our creatuire comforts afterwards. cyclones tend to be more tolerable when you can still nuke your popcorn and have an icy cold beer with your mates.)
                              Last edited by noises; 01-31-2011, 08:03 AM.
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                              • #45
                                Here's a pretty awe inspiring graphic. Black areas on the radar show extremely heavy rain (over 150mm per hour) Winds at the eye, if it gets to cat 4, are predicted to peak at 180 miles an hour. 120 knots. 290 kmph!!!

                                MTSAT Infrared Colorized Image Loop - Satellite Services Division - Office of Satellite Data Processing and Distribution

                                As beautiful as it is terrifying.

                                Tropical Cyclone Threat Map Page (1)

                                It's coming right at us!
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