Capitalism Myth

[Aaron]

Aaron

cap·i·tal·ism
ˈkapədlˌizəm/
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Private Owners for profit.

There is this prevailing attitude than many in this field freely collaborate, when in reality its far more about facilitating a low cost way to catalyze their own thinking, bringing gain for themselves. Forums can be like that. You take the chances by underwriting the cost, so its your privilege.

"Only a couple people know about this and it will stay that way until I have time to scale it up a bit and do more tests."
"What I am actually saying is that I'm not going to waste anyone's time with this circuit that has been tested at flea power levels and will offer it up when I know it is actually worth pursuing."

I am doing my best to get your meaning - because you do really have great explanations in this challenging field - but these two statements are miles apart.

Sooner or later if we want this field to progress in a larger sense, everyone will need to be more about freely sharing experimental observations and less about guarding existing beliefs, deity inventors, or capitalistic interest. How many people need to die with their secrets before we all learn?

And based on your last note about value of pursuing? Why not just release your observation to the world?

Not sarcasm here, just a truth. I am one of your customers, and your attitude in your post, will not help you sell books. I would hope that you work in your field out of love of the subject matter and the meaning it produces for you - otherwise make a new choice.

I only came to this thread to learn how others oriented around Cold Electricity. I apologize to wayne.ct that my presence has produced some non-Cold Electricity clutter.

We can only use the original meaning or we're engaging in Orwellian Newspeak as you quoted. You're using modernized definitions revised by multinational corporations, which hides the real meaning.

The original meaning is...

capitalism (n.) 1854, "condition of having capital;" from capital (n.1)

"The Oxford English Dictionary, considered an authority on the English language, credits William Makepeace Thackeray for the first published use of the word ‘capitalism’ in his novel, The Newcomes (1853-55), though it is clear from its context that this refers to finance capital, rather than as a ‘system’."

"Private owners for profit" as you highlight has nothing to do with the meaning of the word capitalism.

Like I said, a capitalist is one who uses finance capital to make more money, which has absolutely nothing to do with someone selling their goods or services and making a profit. Selling products or services is free enterprise and is not and never has been capitalism and any claim to the contrary has always been socialistic/communistic propaganda.

That false and deceptive argument goes way back before any of us were born and is intended to help put the laborers against business owners and lump them together with the real capitalists. This is how laborers are used to do the bidding of the ruling elite in order to pass "worker rights" bills, etc... so that the state can take more and more control of many aspects of smaller privately owned businesses. It is a step towards socialism and then ultimately communism. The bottom line is that your claim is subversion created by the communists but it doesn't seem that you are aware that you have been used in that manner to propagate such a mythological belief but it's a historical fact.

You also completely ignore the fact that most of what I have ever published has already been posted for free online at one time or another but most people do not want to take the time to search for it and would rather have it compiled in one place to save time. You also ignore the point that I made that this isn't a hobby for me but it seems that it is for you.

What do you do to earn your income and why don't you just volunteer your time for free and ask for donations?

I address each of your points, but you conveniently skim past mine and simply repeat what you already said. Just because your primary source of income might not have anything to do with this field doesn't mean that the same standards shouldn't apply to you. Suddenly someone does something in the "free energy" field and they're not allowed to earn their income from it and they're a capitalist? That's completely made up and is a double standard.

I have also contributed many gigabytes of open source work that I was involved in online for 15 years that is free for the taking. Some of that has value and some doesn't, but I shared it without asking anyone in return for anything - that is usually ignored by those criticizing me as you are doing right here.

dR_Green is absolutely right. My two statements are not miles apart - they are completely congruent and I can't state it any better than he already did.

I also don't appreciate the underhanded insults about "deity inventors" - I worship no man and neither does anyone I know. These people are my friends and I associate with people that not only have their ideas but build things that work that I can see with my eyes and measure with my hands. The reason many of them have some kind of "celebrity" status in this field is because they're time tested and proven so to speak. The very people that you are insulting are the very ones you wish would hand their life's work over to you on a silver platter.

And how many people need to die? That's beyond disingenuous. By publishing books of people's works, they obviously don't go do the grave and I spelled that out in my last post. You have ignored basically everything I said, which was pointed out to you and then come back to state something that continues on the same path of deception.

I said, "you are lucky to even know what it is at any price but you obviously are not able to appreciate the fact that its not taken to the grave."

And your comeback is about how many people have to die. That is all complete BS David and you know it. Why can't you just accept what is being said for what is being said instead of twisting or ignoring it?

I do honestly appreciate the fact that you have purchased some of the books and videos, but money is not my priority and if something is blatantly false, I'm going to say something. I'm not going to fake being agreeable to something that I don't agree with in order to make more sales. My integrity comes before money and it always will. I'm involved with all of this because it is a calling and I'm passionate about it.

If I was interested in just making money, this is the LAST field that I would try to do that in for countless obvious reasons.

[DavidE]

Aaron

I am developing this new sense about you... if I called you a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, you would argue peanut butter and honey. When this turns into a debate - I am out because its not worth the energy to prove one point or another. They are both sticky sandwiches.

As to your diatribe about Capitalism? You need to argue with Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism


When you said this:
"Only a couple people know about this and it will stay that way until I have time to scale it up a bit and do more tests."

Stating it this way can be observed as a taunt to what you know, versus what is otherwise commonly known. So I reacted to your expression or attitude about the phenomena. Words mean things bub.

[Aaron]

Wikipedia - fake reference

Aaron

I am developing this new sense about you... if I called you a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, you would argue peanut butter and honey. When this turns into a debate - I am out because its not worth the energy to prove one point or another. They are both sticky sandwiches.

As to your diatribe about Capitalism? You need to argue with Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism


When you said this:
"Only a couple people know about this and it will stay that way until I have time to scale it up a bit and do more tests."

Stating it this way can be observed as a taunt to what you know, versus what is otherwise commonly known. So I reacted to your expression or attitude about the phenomena. Words mean things bub.

Using Wikipedia as your reference is all telling. Wikipedia is the biggest joke of an "authoritative" source that has ever plagued the Internet. If you want to know what a word means, you study it's etymology - NOT Wikipedia the fake encyclopedia run by a encyclopedic wannabes that are too scared to think.

When I use Wikipedia as a reference, I usually disclaim that it is a joke, but for the point that I'm using, its accurate and agrees with other real authoritative sources.

[DavidE]

Aaron

Only you would take on an institution like Wikipedia. And at the same time impugn all of the contributions as being non-authoritative in nature.

In mid-2015, Wikipedia was the world's sixth-most-popular website according to Alexa Internet,[6] and is the largest general-knowledge encyclopedia online, with a combined total of over 36 million mainspace articles across all 291 language editions.[1] On average, Wikipedia receives a total of 10 billion global pageviews from around 495 million unique visitors every month,[7][113] including 85 million visitors from the United States alone,[8] where it is the sixth-most-popular site.

Why not stop while you are ahead friend.

[Aaron]

Wikipedia the FRAUD reference

Aaron

Only you would take on an institution like Wikipedia. And at the same time impugn all of the contributions as being non-authoritative in nature.

In mid-2015, Wikipedia was the world's sixth-most-popular website according to Alexa Internet,[6] and is the largest general-knowledge encyclopedia online, with a combined total of over 36 million mainspace articles across all 291 language editions.[1] On average, Wikipedia receives a total of 10 billion global pageviews from around 495 million unique visitors every month,[7][113] including 85 million visitors from the United States alone,[8] where it is the sixth-most-popular site.

Why not stop while you are ahead friend.

You can't be serious. McDonald's sells the most popular hamburger in the world and it is the worst quality imaginable. Popularity has absolutely nothing to do with quality and it never will. That in itself demonstrates your inability and unwillingness to utilize and accept functional basic logic.

10 shocking facts you never knew about Wikipedia and Jimmy Wales - NaturalNews.com

These are just a few of the many sleazebag practices of Wikipedia and it's founders - all documented irrefutable documented facts - and that is what you are defending - a phony "authoritative" source with phony volunteer editors - you're the one who needs to give up while you're ahead because you are trolling with disinformation and refuse to accept historically accurate origins of the English language - no surprise, Wikipedia is your your guide - :

1) Wikipedia claims to be run by "volunteers" but is actually edited by corporate-paid trolls on many topics such as GMOs, vaccines, chemotherapy and pharmaceuticals.

5) Jimmy Wales is a key operator of the "Hillary Clinton protection network" that cleanses the Clinton entry of all facts about Hillary's crimes and acts of treason against America

6) Wikipedia also distributed child porn. "The parent company of Wikipedia is knowingly distributing child pornography..." said Larry Sanger, co-founder of Wikipedia

7) Jimmy Wales openly despises natural medicine and the healing arts, deliberately allowing corporate-funded Wikipedia editors to disparage authors, naturopaths, doctors and practitioners who help people heal

10) The Wikipedia extortion racket is a reflection of the total lack of ethics practiced by Jimmy Wales himself

[DavidE]

Aaron

In your way of thinking, even the Pope has a dark side. Is that what fills your head as you walk around being Aaron?



You need some Taylor Swift in your life. Here, I will get you started. Happy day.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRzpPppFOFk[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

In your way of thinking, even the Pope has a dark side.

You are kidding right? The Pope's Miter is the image and symbol

of the ancient gOd DAGON, Dagon the Fish gOd. Good Friday and so forth?

Feasting on those yummy fish patties. Hail Dagon. The POPE is a scaling

unholy man. Anyone who follows the POPE into world gov. will drink

of the wine of the wrath of THE ALMIGHTY. The Pope in Italy is controlled

by the ancient Jesuit Mafia who have no problem eating the people.

Eat the people? How? Eat up their profits, political robbers.

The Pope's have always killed entire populations who would not

come under their umbrella. This is common historical fact. To think that

things have changes in our century is a sign of the propaganda brain

warping. Child trafficking and molestation or the sale of baby tissue and

organs has always been linked to the Justice department. It is estimated

in the billions that the controlling body of our world through the legal

system bring in every year.

The people who run our current system are at each others throats

constantly trying to out do one another, killing and genocide has always

been their open interrogate boast on the inter-circle. Proving who is

the better killer is a way to prove who is the biggest. You don't think

that all of that money the POPE controls came from Sunday

offerings, Do you? All of the worlds figure heads have been cloned,

they all have doubles. THEY hate Christians. The POPE pushes Madonna

worship. Mean while the majority of the world sees the POPE protecting

Bishop's who are caught on a regular basis year after year for decades

and the masses are disgusted. However the people soon forget and

easily lead to the slaughter and before you know it, one by one become

the meat on Satan's table.

The POPE is the false spokes person for the GOD OF HEAVEN also

known as the False Prophet. He will be cast into the lake of fire and

no one will shed a tear.

[Aaron]

DavidE - Evasion of the Essential

Aaron

In your way of thinking, even the Pope has a dark side. Is that what fills your head as you walk around being Aaron?

You need some Taylor Swift in your life. Here, I will get you started. Happy day

"Finally, the discussion began to develop. It was amazing to witness the evasion of the essential, the bypassing of the issue at hand, and its replacement by petty criticism." - Wilhelm Reich

[DavidE]

Aaron

Trying to have discussions with people that believe they have it all figured out, is no fun at all. You have convinced me of that once and for all.

But if you have it all figured out, why are you begging for donations (your words not mine)?

[DavidE]

BroMickey

If you knew that I was a retired Catholic priest, would you have still posted what you did in its entirety?

[BroMikey]

BroMickey

If you knew that I was a retired Catholic priest, would you have still posted what you did in its entirety?

Hi David

Yes, I had two Priest on my street growing up and later I became

a Priest and spent the last 40 years watching men go against

their better judgement in private while speaking publicly as if they

were Holy men. Did you know that?

Come on David, you can Bull Sheet me Talk to me straight.

I'll spell it all out for you if you have the belly for it.

It's the same ole natural men who needs forgiveness, but for one

am not fooled by the well groomed exterior.


Now let me say that I grew up a Catholic and I understand that

many of the sheep who need to leave their Mary/Madonna have

a genuine desire to live in a way that pleases the LORD.



I hope I am not hurting your heart. I Love God as well and I wouldn't

want people trampling on my good deeds, trying to say they were evil

deeds.


The present day structure is set up to rake in the big money, attacking

little boo peep (Aaron) is a low blow. Aaron is a poor man just like the

average Joe, the more you insult that man the more money will pour

into his account. Aaron is not a fool or a begger, so stop the gutless

UNGODLY attack and prove to me ypu are what you say.


I don't play, I am dead dog serious. I have always liked your ability

to reason and desire for each individuals free speech. I know you

won't let me down. Capitalism is just another word for

"BIG DOG EATS THE LITTLE DOG"


I guess this is my opinion and we all hav'em, huh?

[DavidE]

BroMikey

Nice rant.

Aaron is not an innocent in our exchange. Being a leader of a forum you would think he would be beyond arguing about the meaning of words or the most authoritative dictionary (according to his learned perspective).

My challenge having any conversation with him, is dealing with his passive aggressive conversational tendencies. If you re-read the exchange trail in its entirety, it will be clearly displayed. It is exhausting to deal with and ultimately pointless. Hence my diminishing trail of post.

In this country, Americans are free to select words and their meaning as per their beliefs.

We should also be willing to exchange and not be triggered and reactionary to any others words. But sometimes this happens, and when it does, everybody loses.

As I have said before, we should be celebrating commonalities versus debating to the death, our differences.

To each his own.

[BroMikey]

BroMickey

If you knew that I was a retired Catholic priest, would you have still posted what you did in its entirety?

Do you deny this? I think Aaron has the right to have a massive belly ache

over folks who claim spirituality then close their eyes to important

happening inside the Political arena. Do you really want to throw our

comrades into the Colosseum?

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mOQOR8kupk[/VIDEO]

[DavidE]

BroMikey

In many categories the rabbit hole is even much deeper than you note. Mankind has been infiltrated, and has been taken over by a multitude of parasitic influences. They have the perfect disguise, they can use anyone to play out their sorted practices and agendas.

If you were watching a skit with puppets and puppeteers and the puppets started to misbehave... would you blame the puppets? Or guidance of the hands who owned them? In one frame of reference you would blame the puppets, in another you would see that the puppets have no choice but to be as they are directed.

In many regards this is a tragic time in the history for mankind. Social realities at all levels are affected by this dark blight. But the ideals that each person can embrace and live for... are still very much in play, as long as you stay away from becoming any kind of competing power over force.

Your rants just give notice to those that watch, that you are fully compliant with the message you are being sent (by them). You unwittingly are taking an active part in the grand deception.

I will make no other post about this subject because... every man should search their own heart, for the ideals that are worth pledging their life essence.

"Blessed are the meek:
for they shall inherit the earth."

[pentarbe]

wow

Wow - really?