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Old 06-11-2018, 08:31 PM
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Thrilling

I absolutely love Mike Palazzolaís video where he shows whatís happening
with his microscope. Those chains appear seemingly out of nothing and oh
boy how they respond to his magnet. Those little slugs almost look alive as
their little tails follow as they twist and turn. It would be nice to know what
relationship those slugs have with the magnet, do they work like little compasses
or is there another scenario? Then when he takes his magnet out of range the
little chains just dissolve into the background.
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I came across this from 1912. They were pretty well advanced back then so
in the intervening century they ought to have got things well tested. The electron theory of magnetism - IDEALS @ Illinois
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Oh dear.

Looks as if the ferrocell guys have fizzled out!
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Nose.

Having been really fascinated by the ferrocell images for the last few years
I thought that at last a result would come. It hasnít.
The poor old ferrocell community can barely see a couple of feet boyond
their noses.
The thing is I couldnít believe all the vortexes and intertal planes people
see didnít mess up all the technology thatís used.
All I can do is Google and I didnít know what to look for but I put in the
word Magnetometer.
Looks like thereís all sorts, question is, does a ferrocell beat Ďem all?
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Wiki.

The basic principle that allows the device to operate is the fact that a caesium atom can exist in any of nine energy levels, which can be informally thought of as the placement of electron atomic orbitals around the atomic nucleus. When a caesium atom within the chamber encounters a photon from the lamp, it is excited to a higher energy state, emits a photon and falls to an indeterminate lower energy state. The caesium atom is "sensitive" to the photons from the lamp in three of its nine energy states, and therefore, assuming a closed system, all the atoms eventually fall into a state in which all the photons from the lamp pass through unhindered and are measured by the photon detector. At this point, the sample (or population) is said to be polarized and ready for measurement to take place. This process is done continuously during operation. This theoretically perfect magnetometer is now functional and so can begin to make measurements.
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Detector.

The new sensor, developed by NIST physicist John Kitching, consists of a laser, a cell containing vaporized metal atoms, and a light detector. When the metal atoms are illuminated by the laser, they align such that they donít absorb any of the light. The presence of even a very weak magnetic field, however, disrupts their alignment, and they absorb some of the light. This change is recorded by the detector.
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Understand

This seems to be important as far as the case for ferrocell goes.Magnetic anisotropy is the directional dependence of a material's magnetic properties. The magnetic moment of magnetically anisotropic materials will tend to align with an easy axis, which is an energetically favorable direction of spontaneous magnetization. The two opposite directions along an easy axis are usually equivalent, and the actual direction of magnetization can be along either of them (see spontaneous symmetry breaking).
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Magneto receptor

Cryptochrome.
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Good find.

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Old 06-28-2018, 03:24 PM
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Come on you guys.

https://youtu.be/hCY0w_3tOUs

Come on you ferrocell guys, break free from a tiny round thing with
multiple LEDs and look at the bigger picture.
Do something more scientific than a gimmick, you don't need loads
of lines on a postage stamp size.
Look at how far a tiny magnet's effect reaches. What's needed is a
super size lens, the smallest magnet that works and a single light
source.
What I'm seeing from bigger lenses is a series of concentric
circles and if they were "filled in" you'd end up with a flattened
cone like you see with Mike Palazzola's latest offering (viewed pole end on).
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violation

n 2011 the OPERA Collaboration published (in a non-peer reviewed arXiv preprint) the results of neutrino measurements, according to which neutrinos are slightly traveling faster than light.[165] The neutrinos apparently arrived early by ~60 ns. The standard deviation was 6σ, clearly beyond the 5σ limit necessary for a significant result. However, in 2012 it was found that this result was due to measurement errors. The end result was consistent with the speed of light,[166] see Faster-than-light neutrino anomaly.

In 2010, MINOS reported differences between the disappearance (and thus the masses) of neutrinos and antineutrinos at the 2.3 sigma level. This would violate CPT symmetry and Lorentz symmetry.[167][168][169] However, in 2011 MINOS updated their antineutrino results, reporting that the difference is not as great as initially expected, after evaluating further data.[170] In 2012, they published a paper in which they reported that the difference is now removed.[171]

In 2007, the MAGIC Collaboration published a paper, in which they claimed a possible energy dependence of the speed of photons from the galaxy Markarian 501. They admitted, that also a possible energy-dependent emission effect could have cause this result as well.[50][172] However, the MAGIC result was superseded by the substantially more precise measurements of the Fermi-LAT group, which couldn't find any effect even beyond the Planck energy.[47] For details, see section Dispersion.

In 1997, Nodland & Ralston claimed to have found a rotation of the polarization plane of light coming from distant radio galaxies. This would indicate an anisotropy of space.[173][174][175] This attracted some interest in the media. However, some criticisms immediately appeared, which disputed the interpretation of the data, and who alluded to errors in the publication.[176][177][178][179][180][181][182] More recent studies have not found any evidence for this effect (see section on Birefringence).

Search for Lorentz violation.
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From Wiki Lorentz.

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See how.

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See how it wants to make a CIRCLE!
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Too long.

Well itís taking me too long to come to a conclusion.
I think what would settle the argument for me is if someone out there could
show me the field lines of a bar rmagnet derived from theoretical means.
ie. the plot of calculations.
If that turned out very similar to iron filings the ferrocell idea must be some
sort of violation-some sort of anomolus behaviour as when water freezes.
Thereís a huge amount in past studies done on magnetite dating back to
1840ís or earlier. Trouble is Iím no scientist and canít understand all the
language used in these papers.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:27 PM
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Great circle.

Look how it wants to make a big circle.

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Taylor and Francis,copied from.

Hi.The magnetic force exerted on a paramagnetic nanoparticle by a 3-D array of magnetite particles was investigated to extend previous work that only involved one magnetite particle. The separation between the magnetite particles in the array, the orientation of the magnetic field, and the distance between the nanoparticle and the surface of the magnetite array were studied. At magnetite particle separations of less than two magnetite diameters, a reduction in the net force on the nanoparticle compared to that associated with a single magnetite particle was realized due to the overlapping behavior of the magnetic fields of the magnetite array. The net force was still strong to overcome thermal (Brownian) motion and attract and retain the nanoparticle. The magnetite array also gives rise to retention zones at any orientation of the magnetite field; this was not true of a single magnetite particle, which exhibited repulsive zones depending on the orientation of the field. When the separation between the magnetite particles was greater than two magnetite diameters, the effect of the array was lost and the nanoparticle interacted essentially with only one of the magnetite particles. The close proximity of the magnetite particles and the associated smoothing effect translated into long-range interactions that leveled off with distance between the nanoparticle and the array. Although too weak to retain the nanoparticle, they were suspected to be strong enough to retain much larger particles approaching the size of the array. These effects could be explained only by the fact that when the magnetite particles were closer to each other they started behaving as a single large particle. Overall, these results suggest that both nanoparticles and particles of the size the array can be attracted to and retained by a magnetic matrix comprising clusters of small and similarly sized magnetite particles.
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A powerful magnetic field, more than several billion gauss (several billion times the magnetic field of the Earth) changes this situation. In any magnetic field, an electron moves in a helical orbit around the direction of the magnetic field line. The size of the orbit, the gyroradius, gets smaller for lower electron velocities and for HIGHER magnetic fields. But quantum mechanics dictates that associated with each electron is a wave, which gets longer as the electron velocity goes down. An electron can only be located with one wavelength, not within a smaller volume.
From Lawrenceville Plasma.
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Space.

From Wiki.

An electromagnetic field (also EMF or EM field) is a physical field produced by electrically charged objects.[1] It affects the behavior of charged objects in the vicinity of the field. The electromagnetic field extends indefinitely throughout space and describes the electromagnetic interaction. It is one of the four fundamental forces of nature (the others are gravitation, weak interaction and strong interaction).

The perturbation of the field, even from a small magnet extends for almost
ever (in theory).
Trouble with Ferrocell is doesnít look at the bigger picture. What theyíre seeing
is only a tiny part of the action. A compass needle will appear to flip at the
mid point if moved along the length of a bar just like the so called ďdielectric
planeĒ
Obviously a lot of Ferrocell images are grossly distorted.
Iím only a decrepit old farmer trying to find logical answers
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NIST centre for neutron research.

I found this, doesnít say who author is. Obviously there has been a great
deal of research done in the area.

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Unfortunate.

Unfortunately the ferrilens debate has fizzled out yet again.
As far as I can see nobody has offered a scrap of proof.
The Earth itself is a great big magnet so it follows that it MUST HAVE
a dielectric intertial plane and vortexes.
It seems to me that the whole of space is the field and magnetism is a
perturbation of that field.
As Iíve shown, even a tiny magnet causes a perturbation of the field at
greater distances if uninterrupted, ferrilens people are only looking at a
tiny fraction the same.
When you look into it there has been a huge amount of research thrown
at magnetite, particularly in the area of medical applications.
Contrary to what most on here think physicists, particularly the younger
ones, would love to find fault with what we think we know and then go
on to prove it.
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Compass?

Johnís fraudulent compass.

It occurred to me that one could be misled.

My fraudulent compass looks legit but the needle is plastic.
Underneath is the real needle but at 90 degrees.http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...1&d=1536398868
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Clear.

I've puzzled over this thing for years now and have got nowhere.
If this quote from Ferrocell himself is true, there isn't much more
to it.

'"The nano-particles have assembled into microscopic
dual chains, oriented perpendicular to the applied magnetic field".

This fact would equate perfectly with my Fraudulent Compass!!

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