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Old 01-26-2016, 05:15 AM
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Using a Function Generator as a Power Source

I am rewinding the Tesla style induction coil to get a lower resonance point. In the mean time, I decided that I wanted to go ahead and start the construction of a Cosmic Induction Generator based on the CRI mathematics.

What is the highest voltage you were able to obtain with your coils?

I saw Sputin's video of his coils and it looks like he was getting at least 1kv.
In the video he mentioned a heating effect when he grabbed the terminals of the coil pair.
Has anyone else experienced this heating effect? If so, how pronounced was it?

Tesla spoke of this effect and I am interested in reproducing it.

I really appreciate all of the help as well, this can be a difficult subject to wrap your head around.
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I am rewinding the Tesla style induction coil to get a lower resonance point. In the mean time, I decided that I wanted to go ahead and start the construction of a Cosmic Induction Generator based on the CRI mathematics.

What is the highest voltage you were able to obtain with your coils?

I saw Sputin's video of his coils and it looks like he was getting at least 1kv.
In the video he mentioned a heating effect when he grabbed the terminals of the coil pair.
Has anyone else experienced this heating effect? If so, how pronounced was it?

Tesla spoke of this effect and I am interested in reproducing it.

I really appreciate all of the help as well, this can be a difficult subject to wrap your head around.
I’m not sure what the highest voltage I was obtaining and it depends on what end of the coil is being measured. Although yes, likely a few KV’s..

As for the heating effect, it is felt by a direct touch. If one touches the very edge of the stainless steel cylinder I was using, you’ll get an RF burn off the sharp edge and it hurts a little, (but it simply feels hot with no electrical sensation). However, if the flat surface of the cylinder is touched or picked up, then no pain is felt and no RF burn, no shock.

Holding on to the cylinder for a little bit, one feels a kind of warmth which slowly grows and travels. It is an odd feeling as it feels like the warmth is on the very surface of the skin or just above it. The warmth slowly travels up the hands to the lower arms.

If I have not touched or played with the output for a few days, a week or so, upon returning to it again and touching it, the initial feeling is quite amazing… One can feel the warmth around the hands again but also the feeling can extend further and I can feel it up and down the spine, legs and head. The body feels like it is actually being charged up or something. It almost feels like you are being straightened out and the hairs on the body stand up a bit. (You feel like you want to stand taller).

There is seems to be a limit to this and after that initial feeling, it subsides, although you can always feel the warmth in the hands.

While it sounds like I’m trying to be a human light bulb, actually no. I’m really quite cautious with all of this and I don’t over-do it, as it is all very experimental..

No-one really knows if it is of benefit to the body, or if it is actually causing some damage by cooking nerve endings or something?

Certainly though, the electro- therapeutic effects of these systems are yet another avenue for research…
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Travailing north from my little New England town a few years back on our way up to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia we came upon the US Navy’s VLF transmitter site at Cutler Maine. This transmitting station is on a 2800 acre peninsula that reaches out into Machias Bay, has 26 towers reaching up over 900 feet to support an enormous elevated capacity, spider web of wires. The ground plane is made up of 2000 miles of #6 bare copper wire forming a mesh that covers the whole peninsula and extends down into the surrounding ocean waters. The station runs at 2,000,000 watts to communicate with the US submarine fleet while submerged. Interesting thing is that it’s operating mode is described in the open literature as using “displacement currents” to transmit the signal. Longitudinal, telluric waves maybe?

This installation was built in 1962 and is one of last operating VLF stations being used by the US Navy. It appears to be the last advancement developed from the cold war, based on a history of preceding VLF installations around the world. Listed below are some links from a fantastic site covering US Navy Radio communications from the 1950s and 1960s. The images posted above of the huge Variometer and Helix coil are from a now decommissioned VLF station that the US Navy had in Panama in the early 1960s. These images show the scale of the inductors needed at these huge power levels at 20 KHz where they operate. Explore the links, there is a treasure trove of information.



NAA Cutler Maine - Navy VLF Transmitter Site

US Navy Radio Communications - 1950's & 1960's

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Hi Macak,

Excellent post, great links, many thanks.

Welcome to the EPD Channel on the EG Forum.

The Cutler Marine VLF transmitter site is quite mind blowing.

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I’m not sure what the highest voltage I was obtaining and it depends on what end of the coil is being measured. Although yes, likely a few KV’s..

As for the heating effect, it is felt by a direct touch. If one touches the very edge of the stainless steel cylinder I was using, you’ll get an RF burn off the sharp edge and it hurts a little, (but it simply feels hot with no electrical sensation). However, if the flat surface of the cylinder is touched or picked up, then no pain is felt and no RF burn, no shock.

Holding on to the cylinder for a little bit, one feels a kind of warmth which slowly grows and travels. It is an odd feeling as it feels like the warmth is on the very surface of the skin or just above it. The warmth slowly travels up the hands to the lower arms.

If I have not touched or played with the output for a few days, a week or so, upon returning to it again and touching it, the initial feeling is quite amazing… One can feel the warmth around the hands again but also the feeling can extend further and I can feel it up and down the spine, legs and head. The body feels like it is actually being charged up or something. It almost feels like you are being straightened out and the hairs on the body stand up a bit. (You feel like you want to stand taller).

There is seems to be a limit to this and after that initial feeling, it subsides, although you can always feel the warmth in the hands.

While it sounds like I’m trying to be a human light bulb, actually no. I’m really quite cautious with all of this and I don’t over-do it, as it is all very experimental..

No-one really knows if it is of benefit to the body, or if it is actually causing some damage by cooking nerve endings or something?

Certainly though, the electro- therapeutic effects of these systems are yet another avenue for research…
Is there any way you can ramp up the secondary voltage a bit to see how that changes the effect? It is really interesting. Also, what resonant frequency are you working at? And have you tried tuning the coil while you are touching it to account for your body's capacity?

Electro Therapeutics is one of the most fascinating aspects of electricity and especially Tesla tech IMO.
I heard Eric described a way of treating people with sound by creating opposing standing waves with sharp transients, but I did not understand exactly what he was saying so I could not replicate it. It sounds awesome, and I would love to get some more info on it from him on the subject. (This was in an interview on YouTube)

As for the nerve damage, I highly doubt it. Tesla treated himself with high frequency apparatus often in virtually every way imaginable, and he never spoke of any negative effects (besides, perhaps, the inability to sleep).

Patrick Flanagan has recommended the use of a xenon (Tesla style) single terminal bulb atop a TRT. He said that the dark emanations from this bulb would be highly beneficial to the body. I want to try this one out as well.

Sputins- Have you tried a plasma globe as an elevated capacity? The plasma globe driver circuit is basically an Oliver Lodge coil, so I bet your Tesla coil would work much better. It would be really interesting to see the difference in plasma formation as well.
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Is there any way you can ramp up the secondary voltage a bit to see how that changes the effect? It is really interesting. Also, what resonant frequency are you working at?
The natural frequency is around 2000Kcps. The secondary voltage is undetermined but I can draw about an inch spark off the top. I could up the voltage by introducing another amplification stage to the driver. I have an 833A VTTC built many years ago which I might modify to add in and run this system temporarily… But that would be over 100 Watts, which is my legal limit. (Depending upon field emission tests and if indeed the two coils cancel out air transmission). But then again I have another complete system I’m building up. “MK-2”

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And have you tried tuning the coil while you are touching it to account for your body's capacity?
Yes. I’ve mentioned this previously somewhere. I find the strongest effect is to de-tune the system such that by bringing your hand near the terminal capacity brings the system back into resonance. So now your body’s own capacity becomes part of the system.
Doing this you can feel the dielectric field interact with the surface of your hands and there is similar sensation felt but slightly different than holding the (telluric) output directly. Although I have not tried tuning the system while holding those cylinders.. Something yet to try…


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As for the nerve damage, I highly doubt it. Tesla treated himself with high frequency apparatus often in virtually every way imaginable, and he never spoke of any negative effects (besides, perhaps, the inability to sleep).
I also doubt I’m doing any nerve damage, but still it is something to be careful and mindful of.

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Electro Therapeutics is one of the most fascinating aspects of electricity and especially Tesla tech IMO..
Yes I would agree, it is another important area of research and useful purpose.

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Patrick Flanagan has recommended the use of a xenon (Tesla style) single terminal bulb atop a TRT. He said that the dark emanations from this bulb would be highly beneficial to the body. I want to try this one out as well.
Yes I’ve heard about the noble gasses and their use with a TC. A friend of mine has built such a device with the noble gasses. But I don’t have my own set of noble gases as yet. I won’t speak of Patrick Flanagan here. He claims he is the reincarnation of Tesla and I think that offends Eric and some others. While he may be an inventor, he certainly isn’t Tesla.

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Sputins- Have you tried a plasma globe as an elevated capacity? The plasma globe driver circuit is basically an Oliver Lodge coil, so I bet your Tesla coil would work much better. It would be really interesting to see the difference in plasma formation as well.
I have not used a plasma globe as an elevated capacity, except to bring it near the field. However elevated capacities of different types and arrangements, is something I’ll certainly be delving into a little deeper.
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Preliminary Plasma Experiments

Hello again,
I am in the process of rewinding my secondary and I decided to stop halfway and test the insulation and to determine the terminal voltage of the secondary windings. I am getting several kv out of it (as one might expect from a 50kv induction coil). I decided to see how the plasma from a dielectric barrier discharge would look in comparison to a solid state plasma globe driver in which the secondary is grounded to one side. I grounded my secondary (which is about 106 turns which makes it a 1:5 air core transformer) on one side and connected the plasma ball to the other. Here you can see the photos from the plasma. One of the photos was taken with the solid state driver for comparison. That is the one with the thin streamers like a regular plasma ball.
In another photo you can see the multiple spark gap I am using. Using the distance of the air gap as an indication, I would say the induction coil is operating at less than 20kv.
One note which I found interesting is that my finger got much more hot when I touched the tesla coil powered plasma ball.
It is also interesting that the presence of defined streamers practically disappears in the tesla coil operated globe.
I would love to see some other people try this out with their coils so we can catalog the plasma effects and perhaps determine the plasma indicators for proper 1/4 resonance. I think the whole globe will light up brilliantly white with a properly tuned coil.
BTW, I bought this 7 inch globe for $30. Worth every penny.
All the best,
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Here is another couple of photos of the Tesla coil operated globe with me touching it. The more brilliant colored one is with me touching the ground simultaneously.
Please note that the plasma is much more luminous in person.
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Two Modes. Conjugate wound…...

Some of Tesla’s patent drawings clearly show pairs of counter wound (conjugate) transmitting and receiving resonant transformers. Why is that? Three small 4.5 inch diameter experimental coils were constructed in order to conduct experiments to see if any significant effects could be observed between coils wound in opposite direction versus coils wound similarly. These 3 coils do not conform to professor Dollard’s proportions for proper resonant transformer design. They were sized for ease of construction, for winding on a small lathe and based on a series of previously built Extra coils. The coils are proportioned to be 1/4 wave resonant on the 160 meter Amateur Radio band so as to avail my Amateur license and transmitter exciters for these experiments. Two of the coils were wound in the standard clockwise direction as viewed from the bottom of the coil. One coil was wound counter clockwise. I use the term “standard clockwise direction” because it mimics the natural direction vines spiral here in the North Eastern United States. The term “coil” used here is equal to “Tesla Resonant Transformer”. The information presented in this post was gathered in early 2015, recently verified and is presented as a work in progress with many directions and questions to follow. But I have been told that the coyote sometimes is happy with half a bite.... and work based on professor Dollard’s teachings should not be held private. This is my opening offering.


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Coil description:
Three 4.5 inch diameter experimental coils wound around a form of nine - 5/16 inch diameter fiberglass rods held in place with fiberglass sheet end caps. The forms measure 6 inches tall. A five inch length is taken up by 102 turns of # 22 copper magnet wire and one top turn of # 14 bare copper. This makes up the secondary. The primary has 3 turns of 1/8 inch OD coax where the shield is used as the conductor. The form assembly was chucked in a lathe where the secondary was wound. Type “F” epoxy spray insulating varnish was applied to the secondary winding to lock it in place.




1/3/15
Initial Test:

Setup:
Each secondary coil’s neutral (bottom end) was series fed against the lab earth connection with the 50 ohm output of a Kenwood TS50 mobil transmitter at around 10 watts to find the baseline resonance point. The transmitter was powered by a 12 volt battery, isolated from the AC mains and ground. Resonance was detected by sensing the peak electrostatic (dynamic) field with a 1 inch square copper sheet probe and by finding the peak earth current. Both the earth current and E field intensities track each other through the resonant finding frequency sweep. The “E” probe was located 30 inches out horizontally from the top of the secondary and was coax connected to a digital scope meter. Any closer and even this small 1 square inch probe would effect the resonant point of the system. Earth current was measured with a coarsely calibrated home brewed toroid current transformer installed at the earth connection. This provides a good reference, reading current flowing in and out of the earth at the 1.8 MHz resonant range. This earth ground consists of a 3/4 inch x 10 foot copper clad rod driven into the earth located in the center of a concrete slab floor of a 22 foot by 40 foot room. This rod is connected to four radial 3/8 inch galvanized steel cables embedded in the concrete leading off to the corners of the floor. These radial feeders are bonded to the steel reinforcing mesh in the concrete and are terminated in the corners of the floor with their own ground rod. An elevated capacity for the initial tests was made from a 5 inch diameter loop of # 14 bare copper, mounted 5 inches above the top of the secondary and connected to the top turn.

Coils #1 & 2 were wound clockwise (CW) and coil #3 was wound counterclockwise (CCW).





Observations:
Coil # 1CW. Fo = 2351 kHz, E Probe = 181 mV, Earth current = .74 amps
Coil # 2CW. Fo = 2295 kHz, E Probe = 188 mV, Earth Current = .74 amps
Coil # 3CCW Fo= 2336 kHz, E Probe = 188 mV, Earth Current = .74 amps

1/5/15
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Replace elevated capacity of coil #1CW with a 6 inch diameter toroid loop of .5 inch OD hardline, 5 inches above secondary. Drove secondary in series against ground through the neutral as above and then through the 3 turn primary with matching tuner in line.




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Coil # 1CW neutral fed: Fo = 1858 kHz, E probe = 388 mV, Earth current = .5 amps
Driven with 3 turn primary: Fo = 1840 kHz, E Probe= 352mV Earth Current= .54 amps

It can be seen, comparing the previous observations that the larger elevated capacity lowered the resonant frequency nicely into the lower part of the 160 meter Amateur band and raised the E potential considerably while lowering the earth current.

1/10/15
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Set up all 3 coils with .5 x 6 inch toroid loops as elevated capacities, 5 inch above top of secondary.

Measured input impedance at resonance, both of the secondary with its neutral fed against ground and with the primary fed directly with no added tank capacity for all 3 coils. An Autek VA1 analyzer was used for these tests.

Observations: (average readings)
Series feeding the secondary neutral against ground, the input impedance for coils 1,2 and 3 was approximately 48 ohms. Fo= 1854 kHz.
Feeding the 3 turn primary of coils 1,2 and 3: (secondary neutral grounded). Impedance was approximately 175 ohms. Fo = 1838 KHz.

It can be seen here that series feeding the secondary provides a good match for the 50 ohm output of the transmitter. The impedance of the primary winding is well within matching the transmitter output with a standard transmission line tuning apparatus.






1/13/15
Methodology:
Tuned all 3 Resonant transformers to 1850 kHz by adjusting the elevated capacity’s distance above the secondary while driving the primary with 50 watts from exciter transmitter. Set up 2 coils vertically on stands 6 feet apart, close enough for the fields to interplay. The two secondary neutrals were connected together. Power fed (50 watts) into coil #1’s primary while coil # 2’s primary had a 50 watt incandescent bulb attached. At resonance (1850kHz) energy was transferred from coil 1 to coil 2 through the single wire neutral connection and the bulb was brought to full brilliance with 50 watts input. Current flowing in the interconnecting neutral line was measured. E probe was 30 inches away from the driven coil #1. A four foot fluorescent tube was used to probe the field between the two coils. Coil #2 was substituted with the counterclockwise wound coil #3.






Observations:
Coil #1CW feeding Coil # 2CW, Neutral line current = .58 amps, E probe = 364 mV
Coil #1CW feeding Coil # 3CCW, Neutral line current = .52 amps, E probe = 355 mV
In both cases the fluorescent tube showed a null at the center distance between the two coils being tested. This indicated the E fields around the two coils was out of phase. Probing the space between the coils with a pair of E probes made of equal size and lead lengths, feeding a dual channel scope meter confirmed the 180 degree out of phase condition of the fields. Not having the conjugate match made no difference delivering power to the receiving coil and it’s incandescent bulb. The winding direction made no difference in the phase relationship between each coil’s field with this arrangement.

Tests were done with the incandescent bulb out of the circuit. Removing the load of the bulb from the receiving coil increased both the E probe and current readings by about 30% in both cases. Again, clearly the fields around each coil were 180 degrees out of phase and the dark spot null could be found probing the space between the coils.









1/14/15
Methodology:
It was thought that in the previous observations, the series connected neutrals with only one primary being driven was forcing out of phase compliance of the receiving coil in some manner. This next test has the secondary neutrals connected as before with the current transformer in line at the mid point between the two coils. The two primaries were wired in parallel both in phase and out of phase. Again, a pair of E probes were set up on a wand, one probe on each channel of the scope meter and the space between the two coils was probed for phase relationships.









Observations:

1. Both coil 1CW & 2CW primaries connected in parallel in phase: No nulls with fluorescent tube, a unified field present between the coils. E probes showed two in phase waveforms. Fo = 1919KHz. .3 amps neutral line current. E field was .348 volts.

2. Both coil 1CW & 2CW primaries in parallel out of phase: Null present with fluorescent tube, E probes showed two waveforms 180 degrees out of phase. Fo= 1838 KHz. Neutral line current =.35 amps. E field was .288 volts

Substitute the counterclockwise coil #3CCW for coil #2CW.

3. Both Coil #1CW & #3CCW primaries fed in parallel in phase: No null with fluorescent tube. E probes show two in phase waveforms. Fo= 1862 KHz The neutral line current was .85 amps. E probe .51 volts.

4. Both coil #1CW & #3CCW primaries fed in parallel but out of phase: Null present with fluorescent tube. E probes show two waveforms 180 degrees out of phase. Fo= 1840 KHz. Neutral line current .86 amps. E probe .432 volts.

Links to videos showing fluorescent tube probing the space between both in phase and out of phase conditions.

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Followup Conclusions…..

Conclusions:

There are two modes of operation in the above series of experiments determined by how the two resonant transformers primaries are connected. With only one primary being driven we have a transmitting and receiving coil. This could be called the transmitting mode and is analogous to Tesla’s Telluric power transmission method where the neutral wire connecting the two coils takes the place of the Earth. The second mode is like Professor Dollard’s Cosmic Induction Generator (CIG). Each primary is being driven by the exciter and the interference of the fields created can cause different effects. It is very clear that in order to have the dark spot or null present in the fluorescent tube probe, the two interfering fields created by the coils must have the out of phase condition.

To address the original question for these tests in determining the significance of the counter wound or conjugate coils we have evidence in the second, CIG mode only. Comparing the observations from 1/14/15, numbers 1 & 3, the in phase fed conjugate coil match up provides the highest E field of any combination, no null, in phase fields and high neutral current. There seemed to be no advantage with regard to energy being transferred between coils in the transmitting mode which is where I would have expected it to be.

It is very noteworthy to observe as in #1, when the two CW wound coils are paired up with primaries fed in phase, the resonant frequency moves well above the fundamental of the individual coils. Not so with the other arrangements.

Also noteworthy from the videos referenced, is the observation of annular rings of light and dark areas in the fluorescent tube while probing the mid space between the coils when there is an out of phase relationship with the fields. This condition has been observed within the field of a single coil excited at these frequencies as well. This could rule out a mixing product of two resonant coils beating slightly out of tune.

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There are two modes of operation in the above series of experiments determined by how the two resonant transformers primaries are connected. With only one primary being driven we have a transmitting and receiving coil. This could be called the transmitting mode and is analogous to Tesla’s Telluric power transmission method where the neutral wire connecting the two coils takes the place of the Earth. The second mode is like Professor Dollard’s Cosmic Induction Generator (CIG). Each primary is being driven by the exciter and the interference of the fields created can cause different effects. It is very clear that in order to have the dark spot or null present in the fluorescent tube probe, the two interfering fields created by the coils must have the out of phase condition.

To address the original question for these tests in determining the significance of the counter wound or conjugate coils we have evidence in the second, CIG mode only. Comparing the observations from 1/14/15, numbers 1 & 3, the in phase fed conjugate coil match up provides the highest E field of any combination, no null, in phase fields and high neutral current. There seemed to be no advantage with regard to energy being transferred between coils in the transmitting mode which is where I would have expected it to be.

It is very noteworthy to observe as in #1, when the two CW wound coils are paired up with primaries fed in phase, the resonant frequency moves well above the fundamental of the individual coils. Not so with the other arrangements.

Also noteworthy from the videos referenced, is the observation of annular rings of light and dark areas in the fluorescent tube while probing the mid space between the coils when there is an out of phase relationship with the fields. This condition has been observed within the field of a single coil excited at these frequencies as well. This could rule out a mixing product of two resonant coils beating slightly out of tune.

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Hello Macak,
Nice demonstration! I think you may get better operation by making the primary a resonant tank circuit. From my research, it seems that these coils prefer a strong resonant coupling and a minimized inductive coupling. Besides, it will increase the current through the primary.
As for the reason behind winding one coil clockwise and the other counter clockwise, Eric said that it essentially grounds both of the coils in to each other. I imagine that the only reason that you would have a higher E field on the test in which both coils were wound the same way is because your coil configuration may not be correct. Are you sure that the two primary coils were connected so that they are bucking (like in the induction coil Tesla referred to in his London lecture)?
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Thanks for the response to my post. I think you have mistaken what I said in the conclusion statement you quoted. It was the conjugate coils when paired that produced the highest E fields and neutral line current. Not the coils wound in the same direction. The primaries of each coil are being fed in parallel as shown in the rough schematic marked “CIG” mode. Both primaries sharing the same polarity but being wound in the opposite direction. One would think this to cause a "bucking" or canceling effect but it does not. It is more like a complementary arrangement as there is no phase opposition in the E field.

The second part of the conclusion statement you quoted references the Transmitting Mode where only one primary is driven and energy is transmitted to the second coil. In this mode I could find no special effect or difference having paired conjugate coils to date. Currently I have worked out a plan for building a set of coils designed to Eric’s proportions and plan on looking into this a bit more.
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This E-book is a compilation of Notebooks 4 & 5 out of a 5-part series. 4 & 5 are being released first because not only do they stand alone, they highlight the work of J.J. Thomson and Charles Proteus Steinmetz.

After Eric Dollard’s presentation of The Power of the Aether as Related to Music & Electricity, which was delivered at the 2015 Energy Science & Technology Conference, more work relating to J.J. Thomson was requested since the presentation ended with an overview of the clarified Thomson equations, which are foundational to the study of the Physics of the Aether.

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This is my opening offering.
Fantastic opening offering Macak!

Clearly presented with lab notes, coil descriptions, tests, methods, observations and conclusions. Easy to follow.

Coils: Your coils resemble Extracoils given the height to width ratio, with 100 turns or so. So they would still have a good propagation speed. I do notice they pull-in slightly in the centre, as they tend to do, so you might want to add a third brace in the middle to prevent this with future coils. (Otherwise the turns work loose, but your epoxy fixed that, it’s not a big thing in anyway).

You seem to have a great result with the “transmitting mode”, the 50W bulb lights to full brightness via the one wire. There must be a reasonable impedance match between the receiving coil primary and the bulb itself.

With the CIG mode you have shown the various configurations clearly. I don’t think I have tried them all as you, because I have my two secondary coils CW and CCW only. My two primary coils are both CW. I do not have a null between my two coils so I must be running the in phase mode. (I’ll try swapping the leads around on one primary as see if I then obtain the Null).

Interesting observations..

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It is very noteworthy to observe as in #1, when the two CW wound coils are paired up with primaries fed in phase, the resonant frequency moves well above the fundamental of the individual coils. Not so with the other arrangements.

#1. - Both coil 1CW & 2CW primaries connected in parallel in phase: No nulls with fluorescent tube, a unified field present between the coils. E probes showed two in phase waveforms. Fo = 1919KHz. .3 amps neutral line current. E field was .348 volts.
Possible reasons for this: 1, It may be such that from the perspective of the primary coils the resistance R of the wire in the two coils is lower? 2, the Inductance L reduces the secondary’s thus the Fo raises to a higher value?

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To address the original question for these tests in determining the significance of the counter wound or conjugate coils we have evidence in the second, CIG mode only. Comparing the observations from 1/14/15, numbers 1 & 3, the in phase fed conjugate coil match up provides the highest E field of any combination, no null, in phase fields and high neutral current. There seemed to be no advantage with regard to energy being transferred between coils in the transmitting mode which is where I would have expected it to be.

#3.- Both Coil #1CW & #3CCW primaries fed in parallel in phase: No null with fluorescent tube. E probes show two in phase waveforms. Fo= 1862 KHz The neutral line current was .85 amps. E probe .51 volts.
With #3 you have a high neutral line current, which is desirable for single wire (open circuit) lighting of filament bulbs etc. So I would suggest putting your 50W bulb in-line with the connected neutral wires. (Or output wires as I call it).

You could try disconnecting the secondary neutral wires from your grounding system and connect them through the bulb and then to a capacity of some kind. You could use your own body as this capacity to do this and they should light up as I have shown. It feels freaky to do it but then you should experience the heating and charging effects I have reported.

Your #3 setup best resembles what I have currently set-up, except I have a single common elevated capacity for both coils and running loads off the neutral line output.

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Also noteworthy from the videos referenced, is the observation of annular rings of light and dark areas in the fluorescent tube while probing the mid space between the coils when there is an out of phase relationship with the fields. This condition has been observed within the field of a single coil excited at these frequencies as well. This could rule out a mixing product of two resonant coils beating slightly out of tune.
These rings or strips inside the fluorescent tubes are a common sight within the field of a Tesla coil (single or otherwise). I’m not sure about the explanation however.

It seems there are several modes or configurations, each perhaps with its advantage, A High dielectric field strength or high displacement current (neutral current) or higher frequency. More investigations are required, but It all likely depends on what you are trying to achieve for a given purpose.

Another interesting idea would be to employ three coils, or even four and see the effects. Although this is complicates matters indeed!

Anyway great work indeed. Looking forward to more!
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I would also suggest (along with Ajay) adding in a variable capacitor (combo of fixed and variable) to act as tank capacitor on your primary coil system. It does improve the system overall, or at least the the current draw on your transmitter should reduce. (But I don't know what kind of Z match system you have).

As a guess I'd say your two in phase primary circuit has an inductance of around 2 to 6 micro Henry's?
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Follow up for Sputins suggestions.

Sputins,

Thanks for the response, encouragement and observations!
Bulb added to neutral line and then driven against a capacity, by your suggestion. Sorry don't know how to bracket out quotes yet.



Using here the two conjugate wound coils in transmission mode.

From Lab notes:

Setup:

Transmitting coil being driven through a 6 to 1 balun from the transmitter at about 80 watts. Neutrals connected together through current transformer, nothing is grounded. Bulbs used are 50 watt, 120 volt incandescent.

Observations:

1. One bulb on the three turn primary of the receiving coil,
Fo 1833 KHz, E Field .348 volts, Neutral line current .57 amps.

2. One bulb as in 1, with added bulb wired in series on the neutral line.
Fo= 1833 KHz, E Field = .220 volts, Neutral line current= .28 amps.

3. One bulb only wired in series on the neutral line.
Fo= 1833 KHz. E Field = .245 volts, Neutral line current= .36 amps.

With the bulb wired into the neutral line the tuning of the system is less sharp, indicating a lower “Q” and magnifying factor.

The pictures below correspond to 1, 2 and 3 above respectively with the fourth photo a closer up shot of condition #2.














Setup:
Transmitting coil being driven through a 6 to 1 balun from the transmitter at about 50 watts this time. Neutral connected to ground, then off ground to steel trash can capacity with 50 watt bulb in series, then back to ground with same bulb in series.

Observations:

1. One coil being driven at it’s primary with neutral connected to ground (through current transformer).
Fo= 1844 KHz, E field= .765 volts, Neutral current 1.28 amps.

2. One coil being driven at it’s primary with neutral connected (through current transformer) in series with bulb to steel trash can termination.
Fo= 1868. E Field= .423 volts, Neutral current= .57 amps. Bulb lit almost to full brilliancy.

3. One coil being driven at it’s primary with neutral connected (through current transformer) to bulb in series to ground.
Fo= 1850. E= .215 volts, Neutral current = .28 amps. Bulb a little less bright.

Interesting that the trash can provides a better counterpoise than the earth in the case where the bulb is in series with the neutral. Probably because it is under the effect of the near field of the driven coil. In either case the bulb reduces the neutral current and the E field of the coil compared to the hard wired neutral to ground. Also the Fo of the system goes up with the bulb in the circuit. Pictures below are for numbers 1,2 & 3 just above. The earth connection is in the floor, the current transformer threads into the top of the steel rod when connected, first picture.









That is all for now, I have lab notes and images for more transmission mode experiments performed outside last winter / spring where the neutral wire was up to around 300 feet long with excellent energy transmission. It will take me a while to go over the notes to try to make it somewhat coherent. Or I could just blast out the images and feed all Professor Dollard’s coyotes a nibble or two.
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I would not publish all at once. But show a logical development history of the experiment.
It is those few with appreciative feedback that deserve help in good Tesla replication.

I am happy to see the Dollard work continue in it's own contribution.

I recommend starting your own thread to be objectivel and to set the rules
for taming the wild cats that prowl from time to time.

The work is clever and well thought out.
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Thanks for the response, encouragement and observations!
Bulb added to neutral line and then driven against a capacity, by your suggestion. Sorry don't know how to bracket out quotes yet.
With the bulb wired into the neutral line the tuning of the system is less sharp, indicating a lower “Q” and magnifying factor.
Again nice work with your experiments Macak.

With an “isolated ground”, you can try transmission experiments without connecting to the actual ground, which may interfere with other electronics. Of course having a proper grounding system available is beneficial at times.
Interesting that the bulb wired into the neutral line lowers the Q. It makes sense. The lamp on the receiving coil has a reduced output illumination with a lamp in series on the neutral line. It makes sense as well as the neutral line lamp filament is being lit, robbing some of the current in the neutral line.


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Interesting that the trash can provides a better counterpoise than the earth in the case where the bulb is in series with the neutral. Probably because it is under the effect of the near field of the driven coil. In either case the bulb reduces the neutral current and the E field of the coil compared to the hard wired neutral to ground. Also the Fo of the system goes up with the bulb in the circuit. Pictures below are for numbers 1,2 & 3 just above. The earth connection is in the floor, the current transformer threads into the top of the steel rod when connected
Yeah that is also an observation made by dR-green and myself that a capacity makes a better counterpoise than a ground. The displacement current tends to flow towards a capacity. So your bin would fit this requirement well.

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That is all for now, I have lab notes and images for more transmission mode experiments performed outside last winter / spring where the neutral wire was up to around 300 feet long with excellent energy transmission.
Wow, that sounds quite interesting. Another observation you might make is if you take a single coil, with bulb in line with neutral and use the bin as the counterpoise and take measurements. Then do the same thing only using the two coils. Bulb is brighter.

Take the bin away and use your own body as the counterpoise and the bulb will still light up!


My system rebuild is almost complete, with the primary wiring, Pi network and connections to the main transmitter now done. I’ve done lots of frequency sweeps with a very low power amp to determine tank capacities and such. So I'm ready to go to full power again, (except if I have to wind another plug in inductance coil on the transmitter). I’ve also found a CT to add to the neutral line to obtain reference readings as you have done.

I’d like to do more experiments with transmission mediums from one coil to the other. As compared via a direct wire contact. Via water, salt water, soil, loading coils or other things I can come up with.

As for the CRI, I’m going to see if I can use my current system in CIG mode to receive the local AM radio station (or not)… But I’ll have to load down my coils with a tuning capacitor with may defeat the purpose? Also I’ll have to build a good grounding system to the true earth. But that has been fully planned out so now I need to complete that task.
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Hello everyone,
I came across a very interesting link describing how a coil with solid wires has roughly 1/6 the Q factor compared to that of litz wire (wire with multiple fine strands of copper). He also says that litz wire reduces the losses due to wire spacing considerably compared to solid wires.

Here is this article:Q of ferrite-rod inductors & contra wound coils, applied to crystal radio sets

Another interesting thing in this article is the comparison of the Q factors of normal coils compared to that of contra-wound coils (aka bucking coils). Apparently contra-wound coils have a higher Q at higher frequencies than a similarly constructed regular coil.
I wonder why Eric doesn't use litz wire in his coils to raise the Q factor?
Nikola Tesla also said this kind of wire would be ideal for coils but he said it was "not to be had" in his era.

There appears to be no advantage to using solid wire in the construction of these coils (edit: except for the ease of the surface area mathematics). Please let me know if I am overlooking something.
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I think the whole globe will light up brilliantly white with a properly tuned coil.
I saw evidence that my assertion (quoted above) was correct in this link:
Flat Spiral Secondary and Longitudinal Waves Experiment - Plasma Balls and Conclusion
If you have not been to this guy's page, I recommend checking him out. This article was specifically interesting because he is using a schematic nearly identical to mine, and he is operating a plasma globe with it just as I did. As you can see, the plasma he produced with his spiral wound secondary was very different from mine. In one picture it even appears brilliantly neon green and white uniformly throughout the globe. Obviously that doesn't happen in ordinary plasma globes.

This is a simple experiment is significant in Tesla research because Tesla often spoke about how his single terminal globes where the ideal terminal capacitance in some respects (greater capacitance than surface area).

The globe is also a homemade superluminal particle accelerator (and collider) according to Tesla's theory of how his single terminal light bulbs worked. Not bad for a $30 home experiment. I hope that more people attempt this experiment so we can catalog the plasma effects (i.e publish the pictures).
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I saw evidence that my assertion (quoted above) was correct in this link:
Flat Spiral Secondary and Longitudinal Waves Experiment - Plasma Balls and Conclusion
If you have not been to this guy's page, I recommend checking him out. This article was specifically interesting because he is using a schematic nearly identical to mine, and he is operating a plasma globe with it just as I did. As you can see, the plasma he produced with his spiral wound secondary was very different from mine. In one picture it even appears brilliantly neon green and white uniformly throughout the globe. Obviously that doesn't happen in ordinary plasma globes.

This is a simple experiment is significant in Tesla research because Tesla often spoke about how his single terminal globes where the ideal terminal capacitance in some respects (greater capacitance than surface area).

The globe is also a homemade superluminal particle accelerator (and collider) according to Tesla's theory of how his single terminal light bulbs worked. Not bad for a $30 home experiment. I hope that more people attempt this experiment so we can catalog the plasma effects (i.e publish the pictures).
Hi Ajay (Alex),

Seems you appear on the Q&A at around 50:42. So good that you had some of your questions answered from Eric…

I couldn’t make the Q&A call because I was suffering with lovely Gastro and also the time difference made it too difficult being rather crook. So perhaps next time!

As for playing with plasma globes, the link given is interesting particularly the green colour. I think however one fundamental difference apart from vacuum levels and gasses within plasma globes is that Tesla’s bulbs had the single terminal terminate inside the vacuum area and also terminated on a button of Carbon or similar material. Whereas the common plasma globe has no direct connection to the vacuum part inside. The single terminal is a ball of metal swarf wrapped in glass, but it is at atmospheric pressure.

Anyway it doesn’t mean that cheap plasma balls can’t be useful for experiments. I’ll connect one of my plasma globes up to my rig some time soon and see what results…

However I’m currently trying to drive some ground rods into the ground. Not easy when you strike tree roots or rocks.
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As for playing with plasma globes, the link given is interesting particularly the green colour. I think however one fundamental difference apart from vacuum levels and gasses within plasma globes is that Tesla’s bulbs had the single terminal terminate inside the vacuum area and also terminated on a button of Carbon or similar material. Whereas the common plasma globe has no direct connection to the vacuum part inside. The single terminal is a ball of metal swarf wrapped in glass, but it is at atmospheric pressure.
Yes that was me. I realized I had a dozen more questions about an hour later, so I am going to have to write him a letter (the old school way). I am sorry to hear about your health issues. I hope they work themselves out. You may want to try constructing this and using it as an elevated capacitance: Construction details for the Life Field Transformer device
It outputs a leftward spinning circularly polarized wave which is healing to all biological systems. I have been testing it on dying plants and it seems legit. One of my plants made a full recovery very quickly after looking like it was going to die.

As for the Plasma globe, I realize that it is not an ideal or legitimate replication of Tesla's bulb. In my plasma globe I replaced the swarf with a copper ball. However, isn't carbon a dielectric? I was confused by Tesla's description because how can you connect carbon to the terminal of a coil and have it act inductively on plasma if it is non conductive?
I figured that the conductive terminal must therefore be covered by the carbon inside the bulb. If that is the case, then the plasma globe is not too different from his style of bulb. The plasma globe does appear to add a large capacitance even though the plasma is not directly connected to the coil (dielectric discharge in the plasma).
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There are such things as "undertones" although acoustic instruments don't naturally tend to produce them.

The table doesn't show what happens at higher frequencies. Is there no resonant peak above the fundamental?

[edit] But again, harmonics in this context usually refer to harmonic frequencies produced by something oscillating, as in a harmonic spectrum of an oscillating string at a fixed frequency. Resonant peaks are different. Is this a harmonic spectrum, or a graph of the resonant peaks after doing a frequency sweep? I notice Eric refers to them as a "resonant series" in the diagram and not "harmonics", suggesting it's a series of resonant peaks found when doing a frequency sweep.
Will you be kind and explain what do you mean by term"undertones" in the context of Tesla Coil structures?
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Will you be kind and explain what do you mean by term"undertones" in the context of Tesla Coil structures?
I wasn't referring to Tesla coils, but music. But in basic terms it's the opposite of overtones. It's harmonic frequencies which are below the fundamental frequency, rather than above it. A cymbal for example can produce undertones, because the initial crash can have a certain (high) pitch and a broad range of frequencies somewhat similar to white noise, but a heavy cymbal continues to resonate at a frequency which may be below the initial crash pitch and that continues to ring after the high frequencies have faded.
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What would be the best application for your 2C22 'Regenerative Magnifying Receiver' (RMR) to be used for - picture attached?
Was this intended as a receiver for the 'Crystal Set Initiative' (CSI) and how was it to be applied and over what distance as an example?
What was the input required or was it just the Telluric Radio Station signal that was to be detected/received?



I also built your 6SN7GT CRI/CSI (Crystal Radio Initiative) Triode Driver.
This has lead to the building of 4 x 6BQ7 amplifier/drivers for use with an Implosion project I am currently working on.
NO solid state allowed.

I am attempting to get back to all of this but have too many projects currently in the build state.
By the way the Lester Hendershot device did NOT work but have intuitions that may help in resurrecting this device when time permits.



My CSI is still working as is the Cosmic Ray Detector (CRD) and have attached some pictures for reference.
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Eric won't be able to see these but I'll see if I can ask him on the call.



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A question for Eric:
What would be the best application for your 2C22 'Regenerative Magnifying Receiver' (RMR) to be used for - picture attached?
Was this intended as a receiver for the 'Crystal Set Initiative' (CSI) and how was it to be applied and over what distance as an example?
What was the input required or was it just the Telluric Radio Station signal that was to be detected/received?



I also built your 6SN7GT CRI/CSI (Crystal Radio Initiative) Triode Driver.
This has lead to the building of 4 x 6BQ7 amplifier/drivers for use with an Implosion project I am currently working on.
NO solid state allowed.

I am attempting to get back to all of this but have too many projects currently in the build state.
By the way the Lester Hendershot device did NOT work but have intuitions that may help in resurrecting this device when time permits.



My CSI is still working as is the Cosmic Ray Detector (CRD) and have attached some pictures for reference.
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