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![]() If he was "cheating" then he could use something like an AV plug and employ the water as a virtual ground, not needing any connection between transmitter and receiver. This way the water would be the "return" path like he describes.
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I am talking about a charge that is moving not static and you really should quote what you feel is the pertinent part. You arent off the hook yet with that tem business either.
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Yes, the tm mode is actually short for TM,LD mode, whereby the magnetic component is perpendicular with respect to the propagation direction of the wave, and the electric is in the same direction as the propagation direction of the wave, hence longitudinal.
With the TEM mode, both are perpendicular with respect to the propagation direction of the wave and in that situation both are spiralling around the propagation direction of the wave. Note that in all cases the electric field and the magnetic field are perpendicular with respect to one another. Quote:
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What is confusing, is that with a coil you have multiple modes being present at the same time: 1) You have the TEM mode propagating more or less around the coil; and 2) the LDM or TM,LD mode propagating more or less in the length direction of the coil. These two together result in an energy flow spiralling around the coil. At low frequencies (below the natural resonance frequency of the coil), the LDM mode is insignificant, so all you see then is the TEM mode. At much higher frequencies, the LDM mode sticks its head out of the dirt, and you get a mix of both. ONLY in the specific situation that the TEM mode spiralling around the coil cancels itself out, you are left with a pure longitudinal mode, whereby all magnetic fields are cancelled out.
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So once you have a current you cannot get rid of its magnetic counterpart, the only thing you can do is absorb as much as possible back into the system.
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It may be a case of 'virtual' ground, but the ground is the ether, dark matter what ever one wants to call it, counterpoised against the dielectric in counter-space. If that is possible then it doesn't matter what your location is, I come to this theory due to the wave nature of matter. matter like the earth is a counterpoise to the dielectric and if matter is a wave function then we should theoretically be able to create a ground anywhere we like in space. also has implications as to what gravity is, it's not a matter of shielding gravity but altering the field effect.
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you talk about that as if it were an absolute fact do you have any data on that? tem is set up as a result of a boundary condition so I am not sure what you are driving at. Quote:
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Yes, I think i am more of a “physicist” than an engineer in that sense that I try to understand the fundamentals of what I see. I need a deep understanding of the fundamentals behind the stuff I work with in order to make sense of what is going on. I cannot take a mathematical equation and just stay with the logic expressed in the math. I need to visualize what the math means in order to understand it. But I am definitely not a “quantum physicist”. I am an aether physicist. Quote:
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Tuks DrippingPedia : Ruins 96 Years Einstein Relativity Quote:
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And ALL theories trying to incorporate a union of the dielectric and magnetic fields CANNOT describe the WHOLE situation either, because magnetism is in essence the rotational form of the dielectric. Quote:
Yes, and that is because you in essence describe a union of one single phenomenon with a particular shape of this same phenomenon that happens to run around in circles, that rotates. Quote:
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The magnetic field is just a special case of the electric field, because the electric field is nothing other than the pressure of the aether, a fluid-like medium, which can obviously rotate, which is what magnetism is. Quote:
Thanks to the comments here, I realized that the Tesla transmitter most likely actually transforms the LMD mode in the secondary into a LD mode in the "extra" coil, while being driven from a TEM mode in the primary... I hope to be able to have some simulations made of the pancake coil in the near future, because if that is operating in LD/LMD mode, one should be able to simulate it just fine with current software...
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Kokomoj0, are you looking for physical proof? or mathematical theory?
I view that the videos of the radio reception are proof of tel-uric currents, however the pics of experiments Eric did with the extra coil are downright baffling and would point to longitudinal waves as TEM waves can not exhibit those behaviors. The mathematical theory has basic structure but is not fully finished.
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Worlds's 1st wireless Flight of A Tesla Coil powered helicopter(no batteries) - YouTube And I assume this thing is powered with the radiated (wasted) field (not to mention the construction is wrong but ignoring that). Then seeing as Tesla could bias the ground currents vs radiation depending on how it was set up, it doesn't look like that one transmitter would have been capable of doing everything he proposed all at the same time. Unless I'm missing something very important ![]()
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NFG Coming!
The following is from Alternating Current Phenomena, Fifth Edition, C.P. Steinmetz, Art. 50
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In simpler terms, theoretically a perfect setup as Tesla more than likely designed do not radiate any hertzian waves, this would mean that a grounded counterpoise or at the least a single wire connection is no longer needed, a true wireless system comes into existence. The 'stress' if we call it that in the dielectric would be everywhere and everywhen, the ether would become the 'link' not sure if it's a conductor or collector but it would indeed be the 'link'. then anywhere a receptive antenna is put it would collect the 'signal' or power of the transmitter regardless of distance or spacial location. the receptive antennae connects to the transmitting antennae thru counter-space. The transmitter would need a ground if starting with a conventional TEM wave, an air to air setup would require the use of starting with an 'electrostatic' LD wave, much like the phenomenon of cloud to cloud lightning.
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I don't think that saucer is powered by the Tesla coil, we can see the resonant receiver beside it and the effect of motor connected to it, it's hardly turning. He has batteries in it I think. The others are powered by solar panels, induction ect. It is possible the saucer is somewhat charged by the Tesla coil but in my opinion it is not powered by the Tesla coil and it is a trick or he would have proved it better. I also don't think it can work quite like that. Tesla intended to power planes did he have that capability ? Or was it something he envisioned and was planning to sort out the details later? The planes (if they had no storage/accumulators) would need to draw a lot of energy constantly or they would drop, if they had accumulators they would only need draw energy at intervals. I don't think batteries in a plane are a good idea though. ![]() Tesla does show receivers with two aerial plates spaced at the correct distance to give a potential difference. think that is the path to take for aerial vehicles and cars could use a capacitive link to the ground maybe. If two plates are placed at an odd multiple of the 1/4 WL distance apart then they will show a potential difference which can power stuff. ![]() Cheers
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Does anyone know of any more information from Tesla besides the fact it was a part of the overall plan for the ideal system to power things?
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Back to the C.S.I., these are the data files of the results of the test a few weeks ago. The .txt files contain the scope data, channel B is below channel A, and the Excel file is the same data plotted on charts. All files are compressed into a single .rar file.
telluric_vs_hertz_results-01.rar The transmitter is 84.78km away, measured using UK Grid Reference Finder
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so then as I said the conductance IS in fact the reciprocal of the resistance and in the case of reactance must include the phase angle.
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But we can receive telluric 60 cycles from california light and power too. So now what? ![]() That last part makes no sense to me. Yeh you cant just state something exists because you "think" it exists. You need to support it with some sort of empirical evidence, and a "double bump" resonance does not provide any sort of positive evidence it exists. sorry I have graphic equalizers with a 1/60 octave Q and I can put them side by side too, proves nothing. I have not seen what I would classify "new" math, or anything that I could not figure out without adding extra quadrants. Thats my problem with all this and as we go those very pointed questions that I put up here that go unanswered are stacking up. ![]()
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Go build an Alexanderson network or a TMT base on Eric's dimensions and prove/disprove it to yourself. You will get nowhere by asking a bunch of questions and saying everybody here is wrong.
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Yeh if I have time I will set up my spice program also. Dont have much use for it now days LOL
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no, what you do not understand is that I disagree with much of what is being said here based upon my own education and personal experience. Because I pose it in the form of a question does not mean that I do not already know (or presume) an answer just as you all are doing. I have no need to be a "TPU" tard with a coil winding obsession to prove to myself what every engineer learns in second semester. (to be blunt) When I see something that has promise to fulfill my expectations of a successful project then I will start winding coils. I am willing to experiment but not until I can at least reasonably get a working theory on how the stuff is supposed to work and most questions I pose are either felt to be unimportant or are too difficult for promoters to answer. It usually takes about 1 - 3 years before others start asking the same questions, so I just consider myself a seed planter ![]()
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You know several years ago there was this kid who obviously never spent a day past the 8th grade in school who had this gigantic rats nest of coils and he made all kinds of noise about overunity and was in every magazine looking for investors for his marvel. He even attracted the attention of the local power company who came out made a few measurements and they were kind to the kid they just shrugged and said no thanks. Then again from a long term standpoint maybe they were not so kind to the kid. Anyway like most of these fabulous inventions the ole bear craps in the buckwheat when us old timers come in and want to disect what they have done or make a precise copy for testing. Its amazing how they get sick, they lent it to a friend and they will have any number of excuses to make sure you will never test or replicate their unit. Just goes to show you that they know what they have does not work as advertised So now today that game has changed its colors like a chameleon since there is the internet they have to contend with now days. You know what I mean? Do you recognize it when you see it? The standing presumed principles have gaping holes in them, just look at my previous posts, feel free to answer the questions I pose or respond. We can start from the beginning. How does an electric charge that (is moving) flows not have a current and hence not have a magnetic field intrinsic to that flowing current? The problem is not what I observe but the claims that are being made without any observation or standing, and of course my old time favorite, cherry picking and wordsmithing..(in some cases)
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I can think of anything I want, I know it doesn't mean it's reality. adding extra quadrants to what? the imaginary term is where the 'new' application would be, it is normally utilized as rotational marker. the big question is why? what is that term really representing? That is what Eric has been talking about, the power of the square root of -1, the imaginary j operator of counterspace rotation.
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So what is longitudinal about running an ac generator through the ground, say to a motor?
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Things that Needn't be Said
Kokomoj0,
I don't want to be "that guy", but it would seem I need to. Your nitpickery, condescending quiffs, rebukes and over all negative tone have caused me to write this. If you feel that there is nothing to be found here other than to promote "valid" arguments with others I suggest doing something else with your time. Try participating in another thread, plant a garden, read a book, go to the gym, or maybe smoking weed. These might give you the desired "fulfillment" that you are looking for. There is nothing wrong with posting questions and there is nothing wrong with getting annoyed when they are not answered but you take your "seed planting" to an over zealous level. Much like a Knights Templar killing innocent Arabs because "god wills it". I honestly believe that you think you are actually helping and are doing a good thing, much like Eric Cartman on the South Park episode "Fishsticks", where he believes he's the one who came up with the joke. I don't want to seem like some sort of naysayer and I don't think ALL of your post were over the top but it is the incessant nature of your posting habits, if one were to divide this (newly created) thread's posts into a pie chart, an overly large portion would be yours rebuking what everyone else has posted. While this isn't wrong it gets a bit tiring so PLEASE, show some restraint or find a better outlet for your time. With your current fervor you are exponentially approaching the status of "Forum Troll". ![]() Your last known position, at the time of this writing, was at time constant 1, "Baby Troll" (I would say you are the one in the center of the above pic). Garrett M
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so then from your inference; if it can pass through the earth it must be longitudinal....or something other than tem. therefore 60cycle ac is not a tem wave correct
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Tesla states many many times, in all of his work, that his wireless transmission is utilizing longitudinal waves, and infact that transverse waves do not exist in nature...
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Killing arabs? Dont you think thats a bit over the moon dramatic?
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