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Thoughts on HV to LV Conversion

Smokey,

The best bet for your setup, from my inexperienced understanding, is to use an air core step down transformer for "DC to DC conversion" and then use your favorite inverter topology to output at your desired voltage and frequency for AC use.

This web page by "Dr. Whodini" has a basic HV down converter where he uses spark-gap (replace with your thyratron) to transformer then to rectifier and finally to the integration cap for DC, simple and effective but most likely not all that efficient.

Just some thoughts,

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Eric,
Thanks.
16th Order Versor is another one of my accidental discoveries in a Caduceus Coil device made from back to back TV neck Ferrites where the windings cross at an angle of 22.5 and just another project awaiting time.
This device gave 'cold' and had no problem lighting Neons with very little input but had no idea then of how or why.

Garrettm4,
Yes, had seen that but did not associate it with downconverting and will review now that you have brought it back up, Thanks.

The Spark Gap made the best discharge device but so unreliable.
Tried many Vacuum Tubes in the hope that I would find one that discharged consistently with space charge build up like in voltage regulators but not so.
Can see here I need greater experiment experience with Vacuum Tubes.
Great maintainer, not so hot at design.

Integrated Capacitor:
Have assembled and reads 1396pF which was not a bad guess for instinct where I was aiming for about 1500.
6 x 6 plates 4" x 4".
Fixing in place now but not quite as originally designed and will leave that as an option.

Anybody interested in making their own High Voltage whatever including Plate Capacitors/Condensers, this may be of assistance:

T.C.B.A. - Tesla Coil Builders Association - Browse All Issues

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The tuning setup for secondary coil shows a test coil of 1 turn - 50 Ohms and 3 turns of 500 Ohms, so what is this test coil and how to make it?
Does anyone knows, beside Eric, how to do the tuning of the secondary coil?
If someone knows, please share the info, thank you.
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...The Caduceus Coil is as drawn in diagram, the the polarity dots, two coils wound opposite upon each other. Van Tassle says the wires of the conjugate coils should cross at 22.5 degrees. A 16th order versor is an important factor underlining all of George Van Tassle's efforts. Also his relatives claim that a second wife Doris killed George, and later she was drugged to help get the Integratron away from Lockwood.

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Mr. Dollard, may I ask why exactly 22.5 degrees?

I also saw that the Caduceus Coil also played an important role in the life of another contactee named Wilbert B. Smith. Would there be any connection between Smith and Van Tassel?

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Mr. Dollard,

I came across an article written by Tom Brown about yourself and your public efforts. I was startled when I read "Eric has written over 30 notebooks of material covering his years of research". Is this article correct? If so, and if you want to publish them, I would be more than happy to help in any way I could. Although, I would understand if you didn't want to release them due to your personal situation, as of late.


The Work Of Eric Dollard
by Tom Brown 09-09-1988

Eric Dollard is a scientist of the type found in America around the turn of the century. He is an electrical engineer of the old school relying on experience with equipment rather than acceptance of mathematical considerations. He has studied the works of Nikola Tesla and Charles Proteus Steinmetz extensively and has applied their principles to his research. He has advanced the mathematical works of the early electrical pioneers to the stage of pragmatic industrial engineering. This was only possible by bypassing all modern relativistic theories and concepts of electrons flowing through wires, and instead maintaining the ether theories from which modern electrical equipment originally emerged. Eric's work is a direct continuation of the works of Tesla, Steinmetz, Oliver Heaviside, Philo Farnsworth II, and other energy pioneers whose work can be reproduced and used.

Eric has written over 30 notebooks of material covering his years of research. Five of these notebooks have been published by Borderland Sciences Research Foundation: Condensed Intro To Tesla Transformers; Dielectric & Magnetic Discharges In Electrical Windings; Symbolic Representation of Alternating Electric Waves; Symbolic Representation of the Generalized Electric Wave (In Time); and The Theory of Wireless Power. These books are all practical and engineering oriented.

The Alternating Electric Waves paper, presenting Eric's Four Quadrant Theory of Electricity, was written after his discovery of how to generate excess magnetizing power in an industrial situation (using synchronous motors in a huge shipyard) and make the KVAR (Kilo Volt Amperes Reactive) meter turn backwards. Eric discovered that these industrial meters are pinned so that they will not turn backwards, but they can be stopped, creating readily realizable savings for the industrialist.

Further development of Eric's ideas has been presented at the U.S.P.A. Conference in 1987 in his talk, Representations of Electric Induction, which also included a demonstration of the Tesla One-Wire Transmission of Electricity. The One-Wire Electric Transmission has direct commercial applications in the realm of real full spectrum incandescent lighting, which could be used in operating rooms, highway lighting, schoolrooms, offices, etc.

In Eric's talk at the 1988 International Tesla Symposium he presented the engineering mathematics to continue work on Tesla's oscillating coils while shedding the misconceptions attached by modern physics which have brought real research into Tesla to a dead halt. The engineering mathematics developed by Eric will allow researchers to manufacture coils with practical uses rather than just making sparks.

The broadcasting of electricity, distortion free worldwide radio transmission, and single element full-spectrum incandescent lamps are just a few of the spinoffs taken from the realm of abstraction and brought to the reality of the lab bench by Eric's work, but perhaps the most commercial of all is what Eric terms, "The Ultimate Sound System". Eric has developed the principle and the first prototypes of distortion free audio amplification. This discovery, if properly applied, has the potential to revolutionize the entire audio industry, as well as the reality of related spinoffs into the communications and power transmission industries.

In Borderland's videotape, Transverse & Longitudinal Electric Waves, Eric presents practical uses of Tesla's theories for power transmission, and in the process opens up, through the use of clear, reproducible experiments, aspects of electricity which have only been partially theorized in the past. Extensions of his industrial power work are presented with practical applications for increased power efficiency in industrial situations.

In brief, Eric Dollard has single-handedly carried the works of the early electrical pioneers to a stage where they can be applied to everyday uses. There is no false promise of "free energy" sometime in the future, just a better technology we can use NOW!

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Does anyone knows, beside Eric, how to do the tuning of the secondary coil?
If someone knows, please share the info, thank you.
For testing the secondary:
As far as I have been able to put together; the 50ohms means if you have a function generator with an internal impedance then you use a 1 turn coil for testing the secondary.

by doing this and sweeping through the frequencies you will see an indication on the meter. The indication on the meter between the secondry and the "can" terminal will tell you how the coil responds when excited by a frequency.

I am not exactly sure if you want this to be the frequency of interest??? Anyone?

This will not be exactly what you were looking for. You will need to tune it from there.

At this point you choices are:

-make the end ring larger or smaller. I would need to make mine HUGE if I wanted it to lower the frequency to what I want.

-change the number of turns (you will need to adjust your primary length if you do this to maintain the 1:10 ratio)

For example: I want 1620kcps but I see the largest signal between seconday and "can" at ~2000kcps. I suppose I could add a large termainal ring to decrease the frequency. but I am not sure what I am sacrificing when I do that. After I added the two turn primary and capacitor the best frequency dropped.

If I had it correct from the beginning it would be to low at this point. Then at this point you would have to do something like reduce the capacitance on the primary or move the primary further away from the secondary.

Thats what I think I know, and I hope it helps you somehow.

on a side note:

I have finished a ground plane with 1" copper straps for leads, and finally have a better ground rod. 9' deep 1/2" copper pipe. I will be adding more as they come in. This is very quiet no hum buzz or pops. Crystal radio works well on it. TRT testing to begin again soon...


But I regress and ask again.

Whats more important keeping all the calculated values or changing some of the calculated perameters and having the secondary resonate at the exact frequency.


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In "Travelling Waves on Transmission Systems" by L.V. Bewely, the section on transformer waves has equations relating to the calculation of L, C,, M, & K.

The four field diagrams I asked for are of EXTREME IMPORTANCE, is there not some computer program that does this? Also it might be time to re-collect in one spot the initiative to find equal and opposite forces on the LA D.W.P. DC power line. This is also important here again.

The test loop coil for the C.R.I. tuning is 14 gauge wire for 50 Ohm and 18 gauge for 500 Ohm test oscillators. Same diameter as coils being tuned and a minimum of height, the turns tied together. A 6SN7 or 6V6 vacuum tube amplifier after test oscillators may help.

Orion, post 492 shows a setup by Russian engineer Avramenko. This information is the final confirmation of my observation and theory that the Quadra-Polar self resonance of a coiled metallic-dielectric geometry is a true single phase, or monopolar transformer. Again the critical question rears its head; does a displacement current produce a magnetic field in the insulator which "carries" this displacement current. This is also of extreme importance.

My understanding is that Faraday regarded the dielectric, or "paired electrics", to be the seat of both magnetic and dielectric induction. Hence the term dielectric field may be a bit misleading. Now we are relating the product of Mu Epsilon, a dipolar, and it can hereby reasoned that the iron core is in actuality a dielectric medium that acts upon Mu rather than Epsilon. Strange is the seeming requirement for a continuous metallic path for the magnetic current i, for mutual "inductance" to take place between windings. Ferrites, more like a "dielectric" than sheets seems not to work for H.F. Hi-Z transformers. A 4800 V:120 V step up is impossible at 10 mega cycles.

Chris Carson and myself produced a Caduceus coil oscillation setup and it began to exhibit some space scalar effects. It was connected as shown in a previous diagram. It was connected as shown in a previous diagram but using a small 6J6WA double triode. The frequency was remarkably stable and unexpectedly high, V.H.F. But Chris died and I forget the tube connections. Receiving signals from another dimension was my understanding of the Integratron. See Outer Limits, first T.V. episode, "Galaxy Being". The Russian parametric paper discusses vacuum tube parametric oscillators and these have very very interesting characteristics resulting in unusual modes of reception.

Finally, the Multipactor tube. The Farnsworth family was less than cooperative in helping me understand the Multipactor tube, and it also exists in a wide variety of forms. Philo was very interested in a symmetrical tube/symmetrical Tesla Transformer connection but Philo was also insane by the time I met him, when I was a human rat eating out of dumpsters. Here is what I know:

The big complication is the cathode coating. High emissive currents burn it out and the coatings are extremely difficult to form. Cathode burnout seems inevitable. Farnsworth's efforts developed out of Einstein's famous 1905 paper on the photo-electric effect. He was not into writing books but had his hard bound notebook series (Gone!). I read part of it and saw many tubes, but Commonweal stole some of these from Philo's house. What I noticed is that the so called grids separated the electrons from their lines of force, but who's electron, JJ Thompson's or A. Einstein's? That I do not know. By the way Tesla used aluminum for his beam tube cathodes. Aluminum is a good secondary emitter and the oscillatory transient will cause Multipactor action. Did Tesla know this, he did make thousands of non-thermionic vacuum tubes. Also note W. Crookes is the inventor of the vacuum tube, find more on him.

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Orion, post 492 shows a setup by Russian engineer Avramenko. This information is the final confirmation of my observation and theory that the Quadra-Polar self resonance of a coiled metallic-dielectric geometry is a true single phase, or monopolar transformer. Again the critical question rears its head; does a displacement current produce a magnetic field in the insulator which "carries" this displacement current. This is also of extreme importance.

Eric,

Thank you so much for reading the paper and for your reply. Your question about the magnetic field is important but one that I am not qualified to answer. Certainly the high frequency high voltage current is moving (by classical theory) as a skin affect. For sure the jury is still out on that and many other classical concepts.

I am thinking seriously about having a metal coating company here in Asheville make me some nickel coated plastic mono-filament for a balloon lofted "antenna" to connect the atmospheric ambient to earth through a double ended Avramenko plug which is a newly introduced concept thanks and credit to Peculian.

If I were to have Avremenko's 1 mm transmission line...how then could we test your theory?



Finally, the Multipactor tube. The Farnsworth family was less than cooperative in helping me understand the Multipactor tube, and it also exists in a wide variety of forms. Philo was very interested in a symmetrical tube/symmetrical Tesla Transformer connection but Philo was also insane by the time I met him, when I was a human rat eating out of dumpsters. Here is what I know:

That is a shame because he only really touched on what was possible. It is the perfect technology but even with all his different configurations of tubes; he was stuck "in the box" that he and RCA created.

The big complication is the cathode coating. High emissive currents burn it out and the coatings are extremely difficult to form. Cathode burnout seems inevitable.

Aluminum is a good secondary emitter and the oscillatory transient will cause Multipactor action. Did Tesla know this, he did make thousands of non-thermionic vacuum tubes.

There have been many advances in secondary emissive cathode materials. MgO co-sputtered 80%/20% with Au, Ag, Ni makes an easy high gain, high temperature conductive emitter. I have designed in my head, a system that eliminates many of the philo tube problems such as anode current wasting, etc. Like you, I have not the money for a high vacuum system to put it into practical use. The positive charge left behind at the emission site is neutralized with zero cost electrons from the earth and air. The current is diverted back to earth and a load though a second ground. I would love to talk to you on the phone about these issues if that is a possibility. If I find time and money to pursue these matters I would be more than happy to have you as a paid consultant. There can be no doubt of your honor and honesty...it is what make you a target of evil....believe me; I know all about these things. I would trust you over anyone else here.

Thanks again for your comments.

Orion


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Aluminum is in the heart of stars, solid plasma can be created with aluminum at 2 million degrees Celsius.

There is also RF cathodes which have no material to degrade. I'm not fond of the magnetic fields used as that creates a inhomogeneous field where the ES wave will break down to EM.
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The four field diagrams of a pair of round conductors, 1/4 inch diameter, 3 inch spacing need to be produced here,

1) L, 100 Ampere in opposite directions in each conductor
2) M, 100 Ampere in same direction in each direction in each conductor
3) C, 10 Kilovolts, same polarity on each conductor
4) K, 10 Kilovolts of opposite polarity on each conductor

The diagramatic superposition of each of these flux diagrams with its various conjugate flux diagrams will give the patterns of LC, MK, L/k and M/C. Who can do this? It is important here!
Eric really stresses the importance of having these field diagrams. He is hoping someone can computer generate them. He would like to see each field separately, so they can be superimposed on each other. I'm trying to show exactly what he would like to see.

In this first diagram, we have just a schematic of the lines of force around a pair of conductors for L, M, C, and K. These are not the flux diagrams, just a representation of the relationship of the lines of force and the pair of conductors(square).

Here we have displayed the self inductance, L, and the mutaual elastance, K. In this diagream the Magnetic lines of force are repelling the conductors, and the Dielectric lines of force are pulling the conductors together.


Then here we have a diagram that is like(not the same as) the representation of C and M. The lines will be similar but different. It looks like C and M, its not the same thing as C and M, but the lines are the same shape.


From Elementary Lectures on Electric Discharges. Waves, and Impulses, and other Transients, Steinmetz:



This is K, Mutual Elastance, Attraction


C, Capacitance, Repulsion. Repulsion is attraction to a distance, grounded infinity


Eric would like to see these diagrams for the constraints given for the conductors, spacing, voltage, and amperage given.
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For testing the secondary:
As far as I have been able to put together; the 50ohms means if you have a function generator with an internal impedance then you use a 1 turn coil for testing the secondary.

by doing this and sweeping through the frequencies you will see an indication on the meter. The indication on the meter between the secondry and the "can" terminal will tell you how the coil responds when excited by a frequency.

I am not exactly sure if you want this to be the frequency of interest??? Anyone?

This will not be exactly what you were looking for. You will need to tune it from there.

At this point you choices are:

-make the end ring larger or smaller. I would need to make mine HUGE if I wanted it to lower the frequency to what I want.

-change the number of turns (you will need to adjust your primary length if you do this to maintain the 1:10 ratio)

For example: I want 1620kcps but I see the largest signal between seconday and "can" at ~2000kcps. I suppose I could add a large termainal ring to decrease the frequency. but I am not sure what I am sacrificing when I do that. After I added the two turn primary and capacitor the best frequency dropped.

If I had it correct from the beginning it would be to low at this point. Then at this point you would have to do something like reduce the capacitance on the primary or move the primary further away from the secondary.

Thats what I think I know, and I hope it helps you somehow.

on a side note:

I have finished a ground plane with 1" copper straps for leads, and finally have a better ground rod. 9' deep 1/2" copper pipe. I will be adding more as they come in. This is very quiet no hum buzz or pops. Crystal radio works well on it. TRT testing to begin again soon...


But I regress and ask again.

Whats more important keeping all the calculated values or changing some of the calculated perameters and having the secondary resonate at the exact frequency.


jake
The coils were deliberately designed to be high in frequency. Once the secondary is fully interconnected it was expected the frequency would drop. A large air capacitor called a neutralizing condenser is to be connected from the secondary to neutral by broad surface(conductors) as a tuning capacity. This helps in tuning the whole system up.

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Aluminum is in the heart of stars, solid plasma can be created with aluminum at 2 million degrees Celsius.
I'll take one kilogram please.
Would you like that in paper or plastic?

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Mr. Dollard,

I came across an article written by Tom Brown about yourself and your public efforts. I was startled when I read "Eric has written over 30 notebooks of material covering his years of research". Is this article correct? If so, and if you want to publish them, I would be more than happy to help in any way I could. Although, I would understand if you didn't want to release them due to your personal situation, as of late.


The Work Of Eric Dollard
by Tom Brown 09-09-1988

Eric Dollard is a scientist of the type found in America around the turn of the century. He is an electrical engineer of the old school relying on experience with equipment rather than acceptance of mathematical considerations. He has studied the works of Nikola Tesla and Charles Proteus Steinmetz extensively and has applied their principles to his research. He has advanced the mathematical works of the early electrical pioneers to the stage of pragmatic industrial engineering. This was only possible by bypassing all modern relativistic theories and concepts of electrons flowing through wires, and instead maintaining the ether theories from which modern electrical equipment originally emerged. Eric's work is a direct continuation of the works of Tesla, Steinmetz, Oliver Heaviside, Philo Farnsworth II, and other energy pioneers whose work can be reproduced and used.

Eric has written over 30 notebooks of material covering his years of research. Five of these notebooks have been published by Borderland Sciences Research Foundation: Condensed Intro To Tesla Transformers; Dielectric & Magnetic Discharges In Electrical Windings; Symbolic Representation of Alternating Electric Waves; Symbolic Representation of the Generalized Electric Wave (In Time); and The Theory of Wireless Power. These books are all practical and engineering oriented.

The Alternating Electric Waves paper, presenting Eric's Four Quadrant Theory of Electricity, was written after his discovery of how to generate excess magnetizing power in an industrial situation (using synchronous motors in a huge shipyard) and make the KVAR (Kilo Volt Amperes Reactive) meter turn backwards. Eric discovered that these industrial meters are pinned so that they will not turn backwards, but they can be stopped, creating readily realizable savings for the industrialist.

Further development of Eric's ideas has been presented at the U.S.P.A. Conference in 1987 in his talk, Representations of Electric Induction, which also included a demonstration of the Tesla One-Wire Transmission of Electricity. The One-Wire Electric Transmission has direct commercial applications in the realm of real full spectrum incandescent lighting, which could be used in operating rooms, highway lighting, schoolrooms, offices, etc.

In Eric's talk at the 1988 International Tesla Symposium he presented the engineering mathematics to continue work on Tesla's oscillating coils while shedding the misconceptions attached by modern physics which have brought real research into Tesla to a dead halt. The engineering mathematics developed by Eric will allow researchers to manufacture coils with practical uses rather than just making sparks.

The broadcasting of electricity, distortion free worldwide radio transmission, and single element full-spectrum incandescent lamps are just a few of the spinoffs taken from the realm of abstraction and brought to the reality of the lab bench by Eric's work, but perhaps the most commercial of all is what Eric terms, "The Ultimate Sound System". Eric has developed the principle and the first prototypes of distortion free audio amplification. This discovery, if properly applied, has the potential to revolutionize the entire audio industry, as well as the reality of related spinoffs into the communications and power transmission industries.

In Borderland's videotape, Transverse & Longitudinal Electric Waves, Eric presents practical uses of Tesla's theories for power transmission, and in the process opens up, through the use of clear, reproducible experiments, aspects of electricity which have only been partially theorized in the past. Extensions of his industrial power work are presented with practical applications for increased power efficiency in industrial situations.

In brief, Eric Dollard has single-handedly carried the works of the early electrical pioneers to a stage where they can be applied to everyday uses. There is no false promise of "free energy" sometime in the future, just a better technology we can use NOW!

(End)


Garrett M
The 30 notebooks most of which was funded by Captain Don Hughes, were kept at Borderland for safekeeping. As told to me by Mike Thoreux, that Tom Brown and the "Thing" deliberately jettisoned all my material so the notebooks have vanished to the winds etc.
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George Van Tassel

KVOS Webster Reports: The Extraordinary Equation of George Van Tassel - YouTube

In this video George Van Tassel speaking about his experiences with Aliens at the Integratron. This is an extension of what I've been talking about.

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Gabriel Kron 'Tensors For Circuits:

Tensors for Circuits : Gabriel Kron : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

Integrated Inductor/Capacitor:
Fitted to Primary such that 1/2 is outside the innermost winding and the other outside the outermost winding with blocks of wood between the two turns to retain shape - it straddles the Primary.
I purposefully made the Primary one span longer (45) than two turns just for this purpose such that I still have a full 2 turns.
Was awkward to assemble and has no variable ability.
Capacity measured at 1200pF but no change in volume and looking at a means to make it variable with an attached variable gang.

George Van Tassel:
Thankyou for the information on George as I feel he had much to offer.
Will upload his book 'I Rode A Flying Saucer' and 'Council Of Seven Lights' to 'n6kph'.
His other book 'When Stars Look Down' I have here but is too big for Yahoo upload but is available at Scribd.
The first book mentioned is dedicated to the downloads from Aliens and mentions Light as being the medium through which these Aliens moved in their craft and appears they were able to move through one another without harm.
Recommend 'When Stars Look Down', fascinating reading.

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Testing the secondary

Thank you "jake" I much appreciate your help, Nhopa.
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A confirmation that the Secondary and Extra are nearly of the same length as I am attempting to inform everyone:

TESLA METAMORPHOSIS , Tesla Healing Metamorphosis, Tesla Light Body Metamorphosis, Anya Petrovic, Nikola Tesla, free energy, Anja Petrovic, Tesla metamorfoza zdravlja, Tesla metamorfoza svetlosnog tela

http://users.beotel.net/~gmarjanovic/Tesla_waves.pdf

George Van Tassel:
Interesting video but all I came away with was the size of the Armature being 57' as the picture was removed from his hands by the Interviewer so that he could not explain further and was more interested in the sensationalism aspect.
This is where I came to the conclusion that this armature which is not a wheel type but more a track type would be rotating at 404.59 Hz to keep in synchronism with the Earth's rotation.
Would that be correct?

Unconventional physics

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Have been collecting detail on the Integratron for quite some time as it would make an ideal replication subject.
Would like to know more about the Armature but very little information is available.
I have been keeping a Fisher & Paykel washing machine Armature and electronics here as it would make a good working base with modification as it would be of a similar design.
I believe this rotation is what George was referring to in the Video when he explained seeing the old TV shows from his 'Time Machine' that they were experimenting with in Chicago.
All of the above information should be of some value with regard to the CRI.

It might be just that easy to see a wheel being rotated at that frequency with an active spark gap operating across some 60 electromagnets (see the spikes that stick out from the middle structure of the Integratron) - TV reruns anyone?

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This may be of some help to people who have the equipment to see.

A while back I was researching "eccentric transformers" where the windings are wound about separate centers. This fit in nicely with some work Dr. Stiffler was doing with his SEC technology and we explored this on a private forum for a while.

Something very important was found after looking at dozens of coils.

Say you have two coils, different physical dimensions, but same quarter wave resonance. Throw these onto a spectrum analyzer and take note of the "harmonic family". Like most would expect there will be the usual multiples of the fundamental, but there will also be peaks which are NOT expected. These can differ depending on geometry. These can even be confusing because they may not easily mathematically relate to the fundamental....what are they? Where do they come from?

Two coils, supposedly identical in terms of fundamental,, display very different responses in the frequency domain, with unexpected responses.

Dr. Stiffler eventually discovered that the strange peaks were harmonically related to the 1.094 Mhz Meter value given by researcher Frank Znidarsic. This is the relation where the phonon, and photon travel with the same speed within the nuclear structure. It is a zone where the sound and light converge. This is obviously on a micro scale, but there is no reason to believe that this cannot be done macroscopically.

What it looks like, is that Frank outlined the theory, and Dr Stiffler successfully (though from a separate path) developed technology which takes advantage of the observations. Dr. Stiffler wrote a paper on the subject showing his coils matching the 1.094mhz meters multiplier to a very high a accuracy (I believe it was less than one percent error). I promised I would never give this paper out per the good Dr's request, but interesting none the less.
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To address the need for a field display generated by a program for the L,M,C & K. There are a few program solvers that may be able to do this unfortunately they are hyper expensive. The shareware programs only display false color images for magnetic field intensity based on current, no electrostatic fields or charge lines.

I have some field solvers but they do not display a graphical result.

I do wonder how accurate the 'field' display is to begin with. It's assumed to be 'free space' due to it's interaction, it may be in counter-space and only manifest in the presence of a conductor or director.
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Purely Electrostatic Displacement Wave

Eric, could you please weigh in on this.
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KVOS Webster Reports: The Extraordinary Equation of George Van Tassel - YouTube

In this video George Van Tassel speaking about his experiences with Aliens at the Integratron. This is an extension of what I've been talking about.

73 DE N6KPH

Van Tassel said F=1/T


By JasterMake at 2012-05-24

SQRT(LC)=T=1/F
Hhmmmm
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The Tesla Transformer is only a component, such as a resistor or condenser. A simple condenser can force an A.C. wave out of existence, but it can also magnify it to enormous magnitudes. The Tesla Transformer is an impedance to admittance converter. It can also be a phase converter from conventional bi phasic currents to, or from, monophasic currents.

A dielectric translation through space is not a wave. Ultimately it is uni-directional, no magnetic field is expected. See the writings of Vassilatos in "Secrets of Cold War Technology", the Tesla chapter.

The longitudinal analog network that I made known can do some of what the Tesla Transformer can. Later on I came up with a more advanced plan resulting in a complete lumped component network equivalent of a mono-polar transforming Tesla Transformer but that work is now lost. Mutual Inductance is the major complication, as has been recently discussed here. For the most part a simple series resonant circuit of very large inductance and minimal capacitance will produce the results sought after in a specific engineering application. This series circuit, a form of M/C network must be driven by a constant potential source of negligible internal impedance in order to get full magnification and rise in output potential. It can be dangerous.

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Faraday did not have a computer and knew not of volts and amps. But Faraday did have iron powder. Something like Lycodium powder was used for the dielectric, see dust types of Lichtenburg patterns. A current based program is fine, 100 amps, one fourth inch, 3 inch spacing, one for opposing, another for aiding. Through the cross products of L/K and C/M the equipotential lines are defining the dielectric lines. This can be seen in the figures thus far provided. A field map can also be integrated from magnetic and dielectric compasses. Maxwell describes field mapping in his book.

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Integratron

After looking at Van Tassel talk on the old black and white, my interest is a bit renewed in this enigmatic apparatus.

I had spent 2 years in the direct study of the Van Tassel Integratron, from a hands on position. Lockwood and myself had managed to restore the installation which Van Tassel operated in Landers, California. It was brought back into the form in which it existed at the time of Van Tassel's death in 1978. His second wife Doris furiously opposed our efforts for some reason and they say "she killed George". By good fortune his son in law, Daniel Boone, who was present at the visitation by the E.T., was very helpful. I had developed the notion that providence provided the union of E.P. Dollard and D. Boone in order to bring the Integratron to life (about 1984). Other people had a different plan so now it is just another conspiracy story at best. Today the installation is disfigured, all technical apparatus gone, and operates as a self worship temple for the "divine Sheva". So what is new, just like RCA Bolinas, etc.

The Integratron operated in the following manner:
Three basic components made up the Integratron.
1) A rotating Di-Rod electrostatic generator which encircled the main deck of the Integratron the projecting aluminum studs are the parametric condensers to energize it, 100 Kilovolts DC out.

2) An electro static condenser consisting of a large wooden hemisphere with an interior aluminum leaving. This was charged to 100 Kv.

3) A large Caduceus transformer of flat spiral form wound upon the ceiling of the transformer, or lower deck.

The armature was to be driven by compressed air rolling on a massive integral roller bearing of teflon rollers and races.

Because compressed air can be sent through pipes of dielectric material this served not only motive power but also control air. Four air driven mechanical switches around the periphery alternately engaged the charged dome and the transformer windings. The opposite ends of the windings capacitively terminated on a hollow central core where a special network would be lowered into it from the main deck above. Four spark gaps outside collected from the rotor/dome and sparked to the air controlled switches. The entire network operated with a space hysteresis angle of Pi over eight radians (22.5 degree) or a 16th order versor.

Break, more to follow
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Extra coil tuning

Data provided as requested by Eric.
Extra coil was made for 20 turn secondary for 1,188 Kc.
Extra coil dia. 26 cm
N=124.25 turns
Wounding height 19 cm
Wire #25 AWG, .0184" dia
These are the results using Eric's recommended tuning setup.
Function generator Wavetek FG2 A, set to 1M sine wave
Universal counter Wavetek UC 10A
1. Variable air capacitor set at 14 pF (low end value of capacitor)
Can 5 cm from end of coil 912 Kc 95 uA
Can 10 cm from end of coil 922 Kc 74 uA
Can 20 cm from end of coil 932 Kc 42 uA
2. Variable air capacitor set at 50 pF
Can 5 cm from end of coil 853 Kc 100+ uA
Can 10 cm from end of coil 870 Kc 90 uA
Can 20 cm from end of coil 886 Kc 55 uA
2. Omitted air capacitor, function generator direct connected to beginning of
extra coil
Can 5 cm from end of coil 802 Kc 100+ uA
Can 10 cm from end of coil 822 Kc 92 uA
Can 20 cm from end of coil 840 Kc 60 uA
Due to the coil frame construction, the closest I could get to the coil free end with the can was 5 cm.
Also note that using the ground connection did not make any difference in the readings. So the question is what do all these data mean?

Next I will attempt to tune the secondary coil. The secondary coil is 20 turns designed for 1,188 Kc.
Coil is 62 cm dia., wire used is about #17 AWG, .048" dia., coil height 6 cm. I have about 4 cm between the top of primary and the bottom of the secondary, since the instrument's impedance is 50 Ohms I will wound a 1 turn test coil in this space. What dia wire should I use for the test coil?Should I remove the primary prior to testing?
Eric recommended glass and copper for the primary's capacitor. Would polypropylene be acceptable in lieu of glass?
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Madhatter,

Faraday did not have a computer and knew not of volts and amps. But Faraday did have iron powder. Something like Lycodium powder was used for the dielectric, see dust types of Lichtenburg patterns. A current based program is fine, 100 amps, one fourth inch, 3 inch spacing, one for opposing, another for aiding. Through the cross products of L/K and C/M the equipotential lines are defining the dielectric lines. This can be seen in the figures thus far provided. A field map can also be integrated from magnetic and dielectric compasses. Maxwell describes field mapping in his book.

73 DE N6KPH
oh yes, the very useful Lycopodium powder, great for 'flash' 'bangs' too high fat content.

The fields can be modeled well enough, although I like the option of a hands on approach. The dielectric charge in free space would be possible, I do wonder though if inferring the magnetic field in free space is truly correct; without a differential conductor present. computer generated fields are only as good as the equations that drive them and of the few I've used they can vary and conflict.

I'll try and put something together this weekend.
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Integratron

After looking at Van Tassel talk on the old black and white, my interest is a bit renewed in this enigmatic apparatus.

I had spent 2 years in the direct study of the Van Tassel Integratron, from a hands on position. Lockwood and myself had managed to restore the installation which Van Tassel operated in Landers, California. It was brought back into the form in which it existed at the time of Van Tassel's death in 1978. His second wife Doris furiously opposed our efforts for some reason and they say "she killed George". By good fortune his son in law, Daniel Boone, who was present at the visitation by the E.T., was very helpful. I had developed the notion that providence provided the union of E.P. Dollard and D. Boone in order to bring the Integratron to life (about 1984). Other people had a different plan so now it is just another conspiracy story at best. Today the installation is disfigured, all technical apparatus gone, and operates as a self worship temple for the "divine Sheva". So what is new, just like RCA Bolinas, etc.

The Integratron operated in the following manner:
Three basic components made up the Integratron.
1) A rotating Di-Rod electrostatic generator which encircled the main deck of the Integratron the projecting aluminum studs are the parametric condensers to energize it, 100 Kilovolts DC out.

2) An electro static condenser consisting of a large wooden hemisphere with an interior aluminum leaving. This was charged to 100 Kv.

3) A large Caduceus transformer of flat spiral form wound upon the ceiling of the transformer, or lower deck.

The armature was to be driven by compressed air rolling on a massive integral roller bearing of teflon rollers and races.

Because compressed air can be sent through pipes of dielectric material this served not only motive power but also control air. Four air driven mechanical switches around the periphery alternately engaged the charged dome and the transformer windings. The opposite ends of the windings capacitively terminated on a hollow central core where a special network would be lowered into it from the main deck above. Four spark gaps outside collected from the rotor/dome and sparked to the air controlled switches. The entire network operated with a space hysteresis angle of Pi over eight radians (22.5 degree) or a 16th order versor.

Break, more to follow
Fascinating, eagerly awaiting to read more

when operating was the generation of such high potential electrostatic fields noticeable in the atmospheric pressure?
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Eric recommended glass and copper for the primary's capacitor. Would polypropylene be acceptable in lieu of glass?
while any dielectric poly-plastic will work, best results would be obtained with borosilicate glass, it has some interesting properties. Volume charge due to it's porosity, there has also been a proton conducting hybrid of borosilicate glass made utilizing the hydrogen bonds.

I personally prototype with poly-plastics as the glass is prohibitively expensive to prototype with.
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The Dielectric Field; The Primary Agent of the Electric Field?

As I was doing my usual workout routine this morning, my mind started to wander while doing the repetitive physical exercises, and all of a sudden I started to think about the Dielectric field and its associated relations to the electric circuit and the Electric Field as well. While having what an alcoholic would term a "moment of clarity", I came to some interesting personal conclusions (via inductive logic) of which I would like to share and have others more qualified than myself critique. (I would like to say that I am most likely wrong in almost all of what is about to be said, so read with your gift of discernment)

I have been thinking a lot about what Mr. Steinmetz had to say on the subject of dielectric energy, lines of force and the "ionic theory" of electricity:





To give some sort of starting point, lets consider that J.J. Thompson thought of an electron as an "end-terminal" for "charge" or (1000 lines of) dielectric energy. Also, following what Mr. Steinmetz had to say (in the article above), we can say that this view is corroborated and extended further saying that electrons are "FREE" (to move) NEGATIVE end-terminals of dielectric energy (or charge).

It should be pointed out that electrons ARE NOT the only "charge" carriers, they are just the most abundant and most "free" to move of all the so called carriers. Ions, protons and other particles can also "carry" dielectric energy (or charge). Or more aptly dielectric energy can terminate on the surface of many different end-terminals or "charged particles", and cause them to be pulled along (or move) when you "close the circuit".

Furthermore, we can "isolate" "negative" and "positive" "charges", this substantiates that there are two types of lines of dielectric energy. Also, this leads one to believe that they don't have to be paired with one another.





This is quite the interesting result, which I believe helps explain why you can "separate charges". Also, this means that you don't have to have a balance of negative and positive lines of dielectric energy when contemplating a dielectric circuit, this is something that has had me "hung-up" for a while now. All you have to have, is an imbalance of positive or negative lines of force in a local area to create a potential, which can then cause a "flow" of current as a result. (i.e. all you need are negative charges on one side, or you can have BOTH positive and negative charges, separated of course, to cause a greater difference in potential)

Moving on, the Dielectric Field, as Mr. Dollard has stated, seems to be the primary agent of the Electric Field. The Magnetic Field seems to be a byproduct of the flow of "charged particles" due to the pulling action of the lines of dielectric energy. So it would seem that Dielectric energy is primary and Magnetic energy is secondary when contemplating the Electric Field in general.

From what I gather from the "modern view", "current flow" is said to be "the movement of charge" (Coulombs per second). If we examine what charge is, we find that it is an immaterial substance which is carried or moved along by particles of mass such as electrons, ions and protons. If we dig deeper we find that the so called "charge", lies merely on the surface of these so called carriers. I feel this description directly parallels the "old" lines of force concepts of Thompson and Steinmetz.

Continuing further, if we examine "the movement of charge" we find that we produce a magnetic field when a current is allowed to flow. A current is derived from "closing the circuit" of a potential difference. Here, dielectric energy (or electro-static energy) is allowed to collapse in on itself, or move.

If we believe the "old timers", the dielectric energy is NOT stored in the wire, but is OUTSIDE the wire, the field lines terminate on the bounding conductors present (or more precisely the inter-molecular end-terminals such as the free electrons on the metals surface), such as the plates of a capacitor. However, when the discharge takes place (closing of the circuit), the dielectric field lines bound between the two terminals (stored in the dielectric) can now flow freely in the metal inter-connection. However, the dielectric field lines don't directly move in the wire, instead the free end-terminals (electrons) move. This is caused by the unique property of the field lines wanting to naturally constrict or contract to a singularity, which can be now termed dissipation of dielectric energy.

Thus we have a dual interaction taking place; the electron being pulled along, by their ability to move freely, and the natural constriction of the dielectric field lines, wanting to assume as short a length as possible, with a singularity as the ideal stable length. This results in the so called "conduction current", or flow of charge through a wire. Here we have a new phenomena, when dielectric energy is allowed to move (i.e. dissipate) (or more aptly constrict back to a singularity by the allowance of the electrons free movement) it forms a secondary energy, Magnetism.

(notes, it is assumed that metals have a very large permittivity, which is subject to great change, due to frequency. Also the Drude Gas Model of the electron, if I am not mistaken, describes the transference of charge from one electron to the next, much like kinetic energy transferred from one billiard ball to the next, so electrons don't have to physically move very far in the wire for the lines of dielectric energy to constrict.)

The modern theory, is that ANY TIME a charge flows (or dielectric energy is allowed to move) a magnetic field accompanies the movement. As we know very well, this is the case in conductors, but what about an insulator? I don't feel there can be a magnetic field associated with a displacement current inside the insulator or more precisely, a flow of current outside a "conductor". To be more exact, if there are no charged particles of mass being moved, yet the lines of dielectric energy are traveling do we really have a magnetic field?


(I may add more to this later, I lost my focus half-way through!)

Garrett M
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