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Old 07-02-2013, 09:35 PM
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So how did it all go?

What were the highlights of the conference?

Can anyone give us a debriefing? (detailed or brief).

In particular, how about Professor Dollard's presentation?

And Jim Murry?

For those who could not attend (like myself), were busting out to hear all about it!!

Sputins.
Some highlights of the conference for me was bedini showing a "generator" mode of the SSG machine. First, put the machine in "attraction" mode instead of "repulsive" mode (this reduces heat and seems to be better overall). This is done by flipping the coil over from the "normal" design floating around out there from Bedini. Then removing the "clamping" diode, and allowing the output of the coil collapse to go directly to the charging battery. We witnessed both the input battery, and the charging battery increasing in charge while the machine was running. A DVD containing Bedini's lecture is available as energy from the vacuum #33. (not online yet, but it is finished)

Dollards lecture was on the four quadrant theory and trying to make it more understandable, nothing too new or out there. Watch "origins of energy synthesis" for a summary of it. Then read both of his "symbolic representation" papers to master it. Good luck understanding symbolic representation if you're not an electric engineer. But you can understand it if you actually try. Eric has got a book coming out soon to be published by the guys running this site. His lecture was based on this soon to be release book.

Lindemmans presentation was awesome, he showed some basic ways and even already patented machines that take advantage of the compression of air and the heat that is produced, and a way to recycle and actually create a machine that is more or less described as: "being able to cool itself lower than the surrounding area, then draw its energy to continue running from the difference in temperature". Tesla describes this as the "ideal" way of increasing human energy. See Tesla's paper on "the problem of increasing human energy". Peter's lecture showed the complete device that Tesla mentions as ideal, he does not show a built model, but a conceptual model that would actually work. Truely free energy again. His history lesson on the people that have pondered such ideas was very good. Many important patents are cited.

Paul Babcock went into the oddities of plama and how his "extra" efficiency motor functions. He showed that the heat and light from a plasma is not directly related to any certain amount of electricity input. He described plasma as a state of matter that can actually tap the "zero point energy" of the Aether. This really makes sense when you think about plasma being able to be "blown out" by a magnetic field. Like what is found in some of Tesla's spark gap designs. You can use a magnetic field to swat down the plasma as soon as it develops. Therefore showing a correlation of the Aether vortex of a magnet interacting with Plasmas. He gave some patents that he has recently applied for, so he was alot more open with how the motor actually worked than last year. Now its easy to see the method he's using to create a motor that uses ~200 watts to create 1 horse power of torque. Similar thing as bedini, use the electricity to do some work, then recapture most of it and reuse it right away.

Informally, someone brought in some kind of old spark gap generator and some pancake coils and a light bulb, Eric Dollard then setup an arrangement that recreated the light bulb experiment from "Tesla's longitudinal electricity" borderlands video, where we could actually see and feel the effect of the "Tesla beam tube" showing a capacitor charging near the light bulb, and attracting copper towards the lightbulb. Which actually describes what the sun is doing to cause gravity. All this without "bending space-time". It seemed like no one i talked to that saw the demo really understood what they were seeing. None of them had seen "tesla's longitudinal energy". Then the people next door playing bingo said it was interfering with their game screen. They forced Eric to stop experimenting immediatly. This serves as an analogy to society as a whole reacting to Eric's work.

Jim Murrays presentation was similar to the video out there called "Tesla's greatest secrets". He went into some patents that he's filled for motors that seem similar to Paul Babcock, and john bedini's methods of recapturing and reusing energy. Some info on Otis T Carr. He had a lot of cool concept motors that showed torque amplification based on rotating platforms with rotating motors on top of the rotating platforms.

My goal was settled: I confirmed that "free energy" is here and has been in front of us for many years.

The physics of mainstream science is complete bunk. Einstein was an idiot. if your offended by that statement. you have a very closed mind.
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My goal was settled: I confirmed that "free energy" is here and has been in front of us for many years. The physics of mainstream science is complete bunk.

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The ignorance of the crowd was stunning. most people wanted to talk about their recently found "englightment" from meditating and demon worship and how all these ideas tie into their "new babylon" belief system of relative truths. they try to spew thier ignorance around the room while ignoring the scientific and technical research at hand and simply use what they were learning to try to enhance their esoteric views of the world. Really disapointed at the lack of technical discussions that happend among the attendees.
Small wonder. See what you're left with when you discard 'mainstream science'?

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Old 07-03-2013, 05:17 AM
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Small wonder. See what you're left with when you discard 'mainstream science'?

Ein~+ein
Your ignorance or intentional efforts to confuse what is being said has come to an end.

Mainstream science IS bunk - that is a SEPARATE point from what is said about anyone ignoring the science at hand, which is a DIFFERENT science than mainstream science - the science AT HAND is the science at the conference, which is NOT MAINSTREAM SCIENCE.

So what you're left with when you discard the mainstream science are SOLUTIONS that mainstream science is too delusional to ever comprehend.
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Some highlights of the conference for me was bedini showing a "generator" mode of the SSG machine. First, put the machine in "attraction" mode instead of "repulsive" mode (this reduces heat and seems to be better overall). This is done by flipping the coil over from the "normal" design floating around out there from Bedini. Then removing the "clamping" diode, and allowing the output of the coil collapse to go directly to the charging battery. We witnessed both the input battery, and the charging battery increasing in charge while the machine was running. A DVD containing Bedini's lecture is available as energy from the vacuum #33. (not online yet, but it is finished)

Dollards lecture was on the four quadrant theory and trying to make it more understandable, nothing too new or out there. Watch "origins of energy synthesis" for a summary of it. Then read both of his "symbolic representation" papers to master it. Good luck understanding symbolic representation if you're not an electric engineer. But you can understand it if you actually try. Eric has got a book coming out soon to be published by the guys running this site. His lecture was based on this soon to be release book.

Lindemmans presentation was awesome, he showed some basic ways and even already patented machines that take advantage of the compression of air and the heat that is produced, and a way to recycle and actually create a machine that is more or less described as: "being able to cool itself lower than the surrounding area, then draw its energy to continue running from the difference in temperature". Tesla describes this as the "ideal" way of increasing human energy. See Tesla's paper on "the problem of increasing human energy". Peter's lecture showed the complete device that Tesla mentions as ideal, he does not show a built model, but a conceptual model that would actually work. Truely free energy again. His history lesson on the people that have pondered such ideas was very good. Many important patents are cited.

Paul Babcock went into the oddities of plama and how his "extra" efficiency motor functions. He showed that the heat and light from a plasma is not directly related to any certain amount of electricity input. He described plasma as a state of matter that can actually tap the "zero point energy" of the Aether. This really makes sense when you think about plasma being able to be "blown out" by a magnetic field. Like what is found in some of Tesla's spark gap designs. You can use a magnetic field to swat down the plasma as soon as it develops. Therefore showing a correlation of the Aether vortex of a magnet interacting with Plasmas. He gave some patents that he has recently applied for, so he was alot more open with how the motor actually worked than last year. Now its easy to see the method he's using to create a motor that uses ~200 watts to create 1 horse power of torque. Similar thing as bedini, use the electricity to do some work, then recapture most of it and reuse it right away.

Informally, someone brought in some kind of old spark gap generator and some pancake coils and a light bulb, Eric Dollard then setup an arrangement that recreated the light bulb experiment from "Tesla's longitudinal electricity" borderlands video, where we could actually see and feel the effect of the "Tesla beam tube" showing a capacitor charging near the light bulb, and attracting copper towards the lightbulb. Which actually describes what the sun is doing to cause gravity. All this without "bending space-time". It seemed like no one i talked to that saw the demo really understood what they were seeing. None of them had seen "tesla's longitudinal energy". Then the people next door playing bingo said it was interfering with their game screen. They forced Eric to stop experimenting immediatly. This serves as an analogy to society as a whole reacting to Eric's work.

Jim Murrays presentation was similar to the video out there called "Tesla's greatest secrets". He went into some patents that he's filled for motors that seem similar to Paul Babcock, and john bedini's methods of recapturing and reusing energy. Some info on Otis T Carr. He had a lot of cool concept motors that showed torque amplification based on rotating platforms with rotating motors on top of the rotating platforms.



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Thanks for the report Ben, (peacepenguin).

Great post & I’m glad I saved your original! I hear your frustration concerning the general crowd and lack of technical discussions.

Nevertheless you know who Stienmentz is, you’ve seen ‘Tesla's longitudinal electricity’ video and you realise what some the implications of these experiments are. Which is actually kind of the point of it all. It’s for you! - And for those who understand and for those who have lost their ignorance to what’s going on. Along with an attempt to wake up the rest.

You’re a lucky man as you were able to attend, see first-hand these big-name experimenters / inventors, got to have a beer with Eric and see the recreation of the Borderland experiment. Wow. Again Wow! - I wish I could have been there! (I was somewhat depressed over the weekend, as I knew I was missing out).

There will still only be a small percentage of people that see it like you do, even amongst an alternative science crowd. Even less who have a solid understanding of it and see the further implications and what it could all mean.

I look forward to the video releases and Eric’s fourth coming book and further interesting experiments.

Thanks again for your report.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:02 PM
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I hear your frustration concerning the general crowd and lack of technical discussions.
I would have to say there was no end to the technical discussions that I heard and there was an overwhelming positive response to the whole conference. It was another incredible success.

I'm sure much went over many people's heads, but everyone has to start somewhere and I'm glad it was with presentations from those who are real builders with proven results.

More to come... and I have personally spent almost a month with Eric Dollard up here at my home and at my friend's house and I'll share some of that experience soon...
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Old 07-04-2013, 05:19 AM
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Thanks again.

Aaron,
Thanks again to you and all the folks who worked so hard to put the whole weekend together.
I could tell it was a labor of love.
The speakers were fabulous.
But just as important were the side discussions, sharing and connection with other like-minded people who are so passionate in their commitment to becoming aware, regarding the new possibilities of energy and consiousness. I would say that everyone I met and talked with, was activly entertaining the idea of a world where the energies of creation are abundant and shared by all.
Here's to the new energy revolution.
Here's to moving forward with that as our goal.
Thanks for inspiring us.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:39 PM
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Recap Bedini- Lindemann 2013 Conference

The Bedini-Lindemann 2013 conference lived up to my expectations and much, much more. The impact of this event, in conjunction with last year's conference, indeed, has turned the existing energy paradigm on its head. Perhaps not everyone attending this seminar realized the long term significance and impact of what was witnessed and presented. As a brief recap:

John Bedini's BASE audio presentation with theoretical explanation, diagrams and sound displayed the power of the concept. The sound from this was astounding in its presence and space. Hard to regress back to normal canned music after the sound demo for this observer. Interestingly enough, as a casual and cryptic aside Bedini mentioned that this process and approach has other applications beside audio.

John Bedini's second presentation dealt with a comprehensive look at the history and theory behind the SG Monopole with a working model in operation. All could witness the various modes of operation for the SG Monopole up close and personal. Towards the tail end of the 1/2 day presentation there were quite a few forehead slaps, AHA! moments, for the many SG builders, when John showed the simple circuit modification to create a generating mode for the SG. As witnessed by all, the SG Monopole was rotating at 200+ rpm charging a secondary battery, pushing air with the side mounted fans and the primary battery voltage climbing. BOOM! A self running device... Check out the new Part 33 - 2 disc DVD Bedini's Energy from a Vacuum.

Peter Lindemann's first seminar dealt with Lead Acid battery theory of operation and charging. Very, very informative, filling in the knowledge gaps that have been out there for awhile. Presenting the practical side of battery charging (dos and dont's) was a bonus for all. Excellent!

Peter Lindemann's second presentation on Open System Thermodynamics (daunting title) was classic Lindemann. Full of wit, wisdom and information for the listeners to ponder. The thrust of this seminar was to open your mind and think outside of the current intellectual box - many historical and current examples were discussed and presented. Peter always triggers interesting lines of thought and action.

Paul Babcock's seminar was an amplification of last year's teaser on the the power of plasma when energized by a magnetic coil. Using simple algebra and current electrical laws Paul demonstrated that magnetic energy is indeed a source of power, counter to common misconceptions. Babcock outlined some of the results of his continuing experimentation with plasma and presented a working hypotheses in simple algebraic terms for quantifying "Flyback Energy". BOOM! This energy can be increased dramatically with much lower wire resistance - an area of research that will bear fruit in the future. The plasma experiment can be replicated fairly easily by experienced techs.

Jim Murray's seminar was a historical review of many OU devices, full of slides, pictures of mechanisms interspersed with wit and humor. Very knowledgeable and experienced in this field. A true pleasure for all to have him share his vision, knowledge and perspective.

Lastly Eric Dollard's Alternating Electric Waves seminar was an important historical and theoretical presentation on the seemingly mysterious ways of AC electricity. While much of the subject matter in the latter portion of the seminar has been previously presented, as noted by PeacePenguin, it was still very interesting, even though the theoretical aspects may have been overly dense for most. The clever use of the the moon's phases to describe the symbolic logic of imaginary numbers was excellent. Look forward to the new book covering this subject matter. Dollard provides the long term theoretical framework for this subject and manipulation of AC waves.

Missed the side demo of Eric recreating the Tesla wave - saw the disruptive effect though. Not enough time to talk with everyone, but enough information and energy to keep one going for months.

Special thanks must be given to the organizers and helpers of this conference. A seminal event that required much effort and courage to put together. Sign me up for next year, please!

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I would have to say there was no end to the technical discussions that I heard and there was an overwhelming positive response to the whole conference. It was another incredible success.

I'm sure much went over many people's heads, but everyone has to start somewhere and I'm glad it was with presentations from those who are real builders with proven results.

More to come... and I have personally spent almost a month with Eric Dollard up here at my home and at my friend's house and I'll share some of that experience soon...
Hello Aaron,

Congratulations on this year's conference. Unfortunately I was unable to attend but have already ordered the new double-dvd set from Tony on the SG...

My main question right now is, will there be a 2014 Conference?

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Thanks. Yes, there will be another conference next year.
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John Bedini's second presentation dealt with a comprehensive look at the history and theory behind the SG Monopole with a working model in operation. All could witness the various modes of operation for the SG Monopole up close and personal. Towards the tail end of the 1/2 day presentation there were quite a few forehead slaps, AHA! moments, for the many SG builders, when John showed the simple circuit modification to create a generating mode for the SG. As witnessed by all, the SG Monopole was rotating at 200+ rpm charging a secondary battery, pushing air with the side mounted fans and the primary battery voltage climbing. BOOM! A self running device... Check out the new Part 33 - 2 disc DVD Bedini's Energy from a Vacuum.

Yaro Stanchak
Thanks Yaro,

I'm really sorry to have missed the conference this year.

I got the new Part 33 - 2 disc DVD EFTV set yesterday and they're AWESOME! Its very interesting the different Phases of the SG as John refers to them, and the Generator Mode was amazing...

John does show an increase in the primary charge but with the device in normal multi-strand SG mode. When he demonstrates the Generator mode, as he's drawing the schematic for that change, he mentions there are 2 ways to do this but only shows one way - which was awesome in itself - but doesn't show the primary charging as the SG is running - plus he does not remove the clamping diode for this demonstration.

Still, I'd consider this DVD set to be a no-brainer MUST HAVE for anyone researching the Monopole Energizer. For me, if John's in it, I buy it - 'nuff said...

Maybe the demo from the Conference will make it onto youtube at some point... I'd love to see it!

Best regards to all,

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We did talk about this on the old monopole 2 forum on yahoo...

Neg to Neg & Pos Cap Dump - YouTube

This vid is the only proof I have that we did it, we made modifications in the days that followed to get it to work correctly, and we did talk about and implement this in the way JB talks about.

We were pretty emphatic about how well it charged. We did so many mods that worked and did not work, I'm not surprised no one else tried or talked about this one. If you want to find the final mod that worked, you'll have to search the old forum or purchase JB's DVD, or just play w/ the principles and what we have already shown - you'll get it :-)


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Generator mode, as he's drawing the schematic for that change, he mentions there are 2 ways to do this but only shows one way
He does show the 2nd way, it's very subtle. If you understand what he is doing or what we were doing in our youtube vid - it will come clear..
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I was wandering back to find the posts about the SaCo magnets on the 3pmp kits as I have been playing with themiand found you responded. I am Aln on the other forum. I ran out 75' of #20 power and paralleled #26 as a trigger and glued a couple of spools together and the SaCo magnets will not run it with a 200 Ohm resistor on the base, even with the pot all the way down to 0. So I am back to the neo's. Anyway, thanks, I saw your vid and was a little confused on whether this was to replace the tank circuit on the oscillator curcuit or to be spun by the wheel on the ssg and to be a seperate generator with the wires from the coil to be run to a cap and a FWBR to a batt. Thank you again, you have provided a library or learning in video. My wife thinks I have a mistress in the garage, Aln

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