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Old 04-02-2007, 07:41 PM
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Can we change the past?

Time travel is a powerful concept that if possible may permit the changing of past events.

Many schools of thought really enforce the idea that we should learn from the past, not dwell on it and move on. "We can't change the past" has been stated so many times we tend to believe this.

If something in the past was able to be changed, I imagine that everything from that point forward would instantly self-adjust to account for that one change and of course anyone from that moment on will never have anything different in their memory except the newly adjusted past, which will seem like it has always been that way.

Quantum physics is probably the most spooky science of all since it deals with the very substance of our reality and our ability to perceive reality. It proves that an observer influences the outcome of an event remotely, such as the Double Slit Experiment.

Another "spooky" experiment is called the "Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser" and it is causing a lot of controversy because if the results are as they seem, it shows proof that the past CAN be changed. What a concept to add to how deep the rabbit hole goes!!!

Would you change the past if you could? I know that through my life I have been conditioned to believe it is "positive" to accept my past experiences even if they were very undesireable but at least if I learned from them then it makes it a worthwhile experience. Therefore, from this conditioning I can't really say I wouldn't want to change the past but I'm not saying I would. But it makes for an interesting consideration especially when quantum physics shows that at least at some level, the past can be changed.

I'll post the Quantum Eraser and other related experiments and variations of the double slit experiment at Double Slit Experiment

So, would you want to change the past if you could and if not why? Also, if you would want to change the past, would it necessarily be a bad thing?
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:24 AM
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There are more references in the double slit thread about experiments that essentially change the past in very interesting ways.

The collective holds all info in the past, present and future. If something in the past changes, then it would seem that everything would adjust from that point into the future to account for the change. We would probably only remember the past as it has been adjusted and not the "original" past.

Would this totally change the collective record? The answer is NO. The collective will maintain a record of all the time lines no matter what has been changed. How can this be known that the collective will hold the original info even if it was changed and a new timeline was established? Some interesting things to think about

What if it was discovered that something happened in the past that was different from what we remember?
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:59 AM
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Talking Time Travel - what a fun subject!

This has been a fascination of mine since pre-teen years.

Here is another great link:

Can an Electron be in Two Places at the Same Time?

It could be a lot of fun!

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Only the past that you notice...

I think everyone has changed the past. Just look at a time when you thought a situation was one way, then somebody said something and it turned out to be another situation entirely. Didn't the past change right then?

How much of our world is borne of the same type of perception? Much. How many of the icons and cornerstones of society are entirely elective and borne of agreement? Many. Perhaps most.

How many times have you transformed the present to see the past transform as well?

Can we change the past? Overall, equally as well as we keep it.

Put a bit of a different spin on this quote and you will see that it falls right in line:

"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it."
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Hi John,

I agree totally. There is usually what innately happened or the truth to a matter and then there is the perception that we create in our mind about what happened. Any realization of what really happened in the past compared to how we have always perceived it instantly changed the past for us. An therefore, from that point up to the moment, everything self-adjusts according to the changed perception.

If we look back through our lives almost the entire thing is created by us and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what actually happened. So if we created it anyway, we might as well see it more for what it is so that we can become more empowered by it.

I do think that there is a possibility that the reality of something that happened in the past could be changed but if it did, we wouldn't have any conscious recollection of it. Meaning, actually physically changing an event in the past literally and not just our perception of it.

Makes me want to go watch Back to the Future triology! lol
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Martial arts students influence the past

The July 1994 edition of New Scientist contained an article by Julian Brown with the rather surprising title "Martial arts students influence the past". For copyright reasons, we are unable to reproduce it here so we shall describe its contents:

This is from: Martial arts students influence the past

The article focusses on Berkeley physicist Henry Stapp's paper "Theoretical model of a purported empirical violation of the predictions of quantum theory" published in Physical Review A, July 1994. The paper is described as "scientific heresy", probably as it was inspired by experiments carried out by parapsychologist Helmut Schmidt in San Antonio, Texas in 1992.

The intial claim is that Stapp "has found a way of modifying the basic equations of quantum theory to permit people to influence things that happened in the past".

Schmidt's experiments are described briefly. They involved a group of martial arts students as subjects, being shown prerecorded random numbers via an electronic display. The numbers had been generated some months earlier by an apparatus involving a radioactive source and a decay counter (radioactive decay timings being as "truly random" as anything one can find in nature). The students attempted to exert a mental "influence" on the visual display, whose behaviour was determined by the prerecorded numbers. In this way, they would be supposedly influencing the statistical distributions of the numbers themselves. "Remarkably", the article claims, a significant bias was found in the numbers, "one that had a less than 1 in 1000 probability of occuring by chance". It is claimed that "elaborate precautions were taken to prevent any cheating". Precise descriptions of experimental procedures in many similar experiments carried out by Schmidt can be found in the numerous articles available in the RPKP archive.

Henry Stapp had acted as an independent monitor in Schmidt's experiments, and while "acknowledging the inherent heresy of the idea", he decided to look further into the possibility that the martial arts students had actually influenced the past. His idea was to develop a simple generalisation of a modified "nonlinear" quantum theory introduced by Steven Weinberg of the University of Texas at Austin. Whereas the macroscopic world involves countless nonlinear systems (from the rupture of an elastic band to the collapse of a stock market), the standard model of quantum mechanics suggests that the underlying behaviour of the microworld is entirely linear. Weinberg was attempting to bridge this gulf between an explicitly nonlinear macroworld and a purportedly linear microworld. He concluded that such an adaptation could not work, as the changes introduced would lead to "logical absurdities". Stapp has apparently "sidestepped" Weinberg's concerns and developed his own nonlinear version of quantum theory, one which accomodates Schmidt's findings.

Stapp claims that the nonlinearity he has introduced would allow a mental influence on the outcome of quantum measurements. He is quoted as saying "Although quantum theory is a beautiful theory and has been tested to very high accuracy experimentally there is still considerable doubt over what precisely happens when a quantum system such as a decaying radioactive atom is subjected to a measurement. Eugene Wigner suggested that consciousness is involved in a fundamental way. I don't know whether he was right but if he was then this work takes his ideas one step further."

The article goes on to explain the ideas of "quantum superposition", i.e. that a radioactive atom can exist in two states simultaneously - one in which a decay has occurred and one in which it hasn't. Wigner suggested that the atom is forced into one of the two states only when the decay is monitored by a human observer. If this is the case, when Schmidt's apparatus generates random numbers, there would actually be a complicated superposition of states in which we could find all possible sets of numbers. As long as the numbers remain unobserved, it is claimed, the superposition would remain (this ignores the issue of "thermal decoherence" which prevents macroscopic quantum superpostions - this may be a significant oversight). In Schmidt's experiments the superposition would have remained until the martial arts students viewed the electronic display.

Even if Wigner's interpretation is correct (and not all physicists accept it), standard quantum mechanics would still predict a statistically unbiased outcome, contrary to Schmidt's findings. In Stapp's adaptation of quantum mechanics, however, the nonlinearity allows mental states to "skew the relative probabilities. Intent, he says, could boost the chances of one particular set of numbers being selected over another."

The crucial idea here seems to be a mathematical representation of the subjects "intent" in terms of a quantum brain state, as well as the representation of the superpostion of the possible number-states. "When one of the martial arts students saw a signal on the display, for example, the combined system of numbers and brain would have evolved into a new quantum state. In Stapp's version of quantum theory, the way this evolution occurs would depend on a term that involved the interaction of the two- the numbers and the brain. It is this term that could allow the probabilities to be biased."

Weinberg claims he has not yet seen the paper, and therefore is unable to comment on its details. However, he has pointed out that nuclear spin measurements provide evidence that any nonlinear quantum mechanical effects could contribute no more than one part in 10^27 of the energy of a nucleus. "That's a fantastic level of precision. Any modification of the theory is going to find it difficult to meet that constraint. Furthermore, another problem with nonlinear terms is that they allow the possibility of signals that can propagate faster than light. That to me just seems unacceptable."

Stapp has responded by saying that he had yet to calculate the size of the effect his nonlinear term would have on energy levels in the nucleus. He believes, however, that the problem of faster-than-light signalling, which leads to a breakdown of causality, is connected to the seeming causality violation which is evident in Schmidt's data. So in a sense the martial arts students were able to "influence the past", but Stapp's theory provides a "causal" mechanism by which this can happen.

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V'ger and Aaron

hi,

this is the song that came to me when i read the quote you put up V'ger.....

"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it."
Winston Churchill


YouTube - Natasha Bedingfield - Unwritten - Acoustic Performance

i chose this version, cuz it sings to my soul....

I wouldn't want to change the past,cuz in coming theough the experiences and gaining a diff perception has molded me to who i am today..and if everything would shift to accomadate the change of the past, then i would think that who i am today would change too....and i am an amazing woman, and have alot to offer from my experience.... Althought the thought of actualy being able to change the past would be tempting, cuz of the experiences of gaining a knew perception.....has been un-fun, and difficult.

Interesting topic Aaron....

Cheers....Adrienne

HEHE....I JUST READ THE QUOTE AGAIN AND I READ IT WRONG....OH WELL GOOD SONG ANYHOW....LOL....I WOULDN'T MIND CHANGING THIS MOMENT...LOL
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Hi Aaron,

"So in a sense the martial arts students were able to "influence the past", but Stapp's theory provides a "causal" mechanism by which this can happen."

Fascinating!! I thought I was the only one that knew this!!

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Hi Adrienne,

Wow! I like the song need the acoustic on CD!

I guess according to the concepts we may be changing the past as we go but the thing about it is that those changes would self adjust to the present moment and we won't know the difference. It would seem that our past memory has always been that way.

Quite a concept! But interesting that some experiments have proven that the past has changed based on what happened in the present. this is pretty earth shattering.
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Hi Aaron,

"So in a sense the martial arts students were able to "influence the past", but Stapp's theory provides a "causal" mechanism by which this can happen."

Fascinating!! I thought I was the only one that new this!!
LOL! we'll have fun in Vegas!
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hi,

hi Aaron,
hmmmm, from that perspective, that would be in credible, although one of them thing that just seems soooo, unfathomable.. , like alot that we seem to talk talk abut on this forum, but thats what kinda makes it cool, cuz some in this world are open to it and the possibilities and of course IF it makes sense, cuz some stuff really doesn't...at least to me.... ...anyways....gonna stop with the rambling now...
i love acoustic anything, of course the artist has to be good.

CHEERS MATE .......Adrienne
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I wouldn't want to change the past,cuz in coming theough the experiences and gaining a diff perception has molded me to who i am today..
Adrienne,
Well here's a noodle baker for ya.


Every 'moment' you're changing the past and the future, cause 'time' as we know it is completely wrong.
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hi, thanks for the quote....well i like that there is more to stretch my mind....so bring it on, keeps things interesting...cheers, Adrienne
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Seeing a quote by Einstein within this article caused me to stop and read. This is excerpted from a longer article entitled How the Brain Creates God. The emerging science of neurotheology is discussed at length.

“For a mystical experience to occur, perceptions narrow and brain regions that orient us in space and mark the distinction between self and world must go quiet. We give up the past and give up the future – we give up our defenses.”

Beyond Space and Time

Einstein had a virtually mystical understanding of the nature of space and time, which he expressed in The N.Y. Times, March 29, 1972:

“A human being is a part of a whole, called by us ‘Universe.’ A part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest – a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires, and to affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. Nobody is able to achieve this completely, but the striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security.”

A triple “prison” for the mystic, space, time, and personality define and specify the normal state of consciousness. Mystic ecstasy offers a glimpse of spiritual freedom, and escape from the prison of selfhood. Remaining as motionless as possible facilitates this effect. When the parietal lobes quiet down, a person first feels detachment from the tyranny of the perceptions, then an expansive oneness with the universe of cosmic unity.

Time distortion starts the personal escape from time, sign of an attempt to escape from the cocoon. Then the inner marriage between the personal and non-personal aspects of the psyche is consummated. Psychic conflicts are transcended, leaving a whole, complete being.

When the orientation area is deprived of neuronal input by gating from the hippocampus, sense of self expands. With no preferred position or direction in space, the local self dissolves in omnidirectional expansion. If one remains motionless, there is no external reference signal to orient in 3-space and no reason for this portion of the brain to activate. Continued meditation can over-drive certain other brain areas and seemingly transport us to another universe.

For a mystical experience to occur, perceptions narrow and brain regions that orient us in space and mark the distinction between self and world must go quiet. We give up the past and give up the future – we give up our defenses. All feelings cease as the self merges with the numinous element. The mind becomes tranquil, withdraws itself from all sides, becoming firmly established in the supreme Reality.

In order to feel that time, fear, and self-consciousness have dissolved, certain brain circuits must be interrupted. This includes damping activity in the fear-registering amygdala, which monitors the environment for threats. Parietal-lobe circuits that give us a sense of physical orientation and a distinction between self and world must quiet down.

The orientation area requires sensory input to do its calculations. Intense meditation blocks the brain from forming a distinction between self and world. Frontal and temporal-lobe circuits, which mark time and generate self-awareness, must disengage. When this happens, self-awareness briefly drops out and we feel like our boundaries dissolve.

The most immediate experience is that of always having been and being forever. The three illusions – space, time and personality – are obliterated in cosmic consciousness, as the soul completes its journey to its spiritual home. Human consciousness is eliminated, having been reabsorbed into the primordial essence. All becomes All without differentiation.

Excepted from: How the Brain Creates God
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Time travel..

I have always had a similar concept in my mind. There is no past and future as it is understood. I have not yet solved the issue but I always felt that the "now" affects the integrity of the past int eh same way it dos the future. In a sense I felt that when someone reaches universal oneness (higher vibrations) then the previous state of affairs loses ontological value.

I guess the closest analogy I can relate to it derives from Robert Bruce's theory of the mind split during projection. During each level of projection earth, astral etc one creates a separate double projecting self, while still retaining all consciences for each lower level. But those become secondary, and really just linger. In other words I entertain the idea that the spiritual journey of self changes the past because we see it from a higher view point. The same events, from a higher vibration standpoint are affected into a different arrangement. Indeed the past is changed and there is no recollection of the original event. Even the natural arrangement is altered. Can any of you recollect base feelings of anger the way they were expressed by you , lets say, 20 years ago? Our idea has changed of that event. The kicker is considering that the event never really occurred as we thought it did anyways. This even leads me to question reality in its full sense. Does anything occur that is stable. Is everything an alteration of the present? Is everything in the present? I many times search for advise from a future self.
I try to leave beacons of importance for my future self to alter.

Causality must play a role as well. Let us say an event occurs which causes certain events. If those events are perceived differently and within that different perception we no longer require the original causal event maybe it ceases to exist kind of like the astral form or impression which loses its existence when thought form ceases to create it.

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Everything happened in an infinite point so there is no linear time. What we perceive is just that, a perception of the movement of light and depending on the aetheric density the light is traveling through, the light will be slower or faster but to the observer in time/space of high or low aetheric density, their perception apparatus will see light going the speed of light. It will always appear that way even though if it was compared to a baseline light speed reading, it would be much slower or much faster. The higher the density, the slower the light can move through it and therefore a slower "movement" of time. The less the density, the faster the light can travel and the faster the "movement" of time.

If you wound up a rubber band propeller and let it go in some water, it would spin around pretty quick. That is like low density aether with fast light movement and fast time ticking. If you let the propeller go in a bowl of jello, it would be very slow or no movement at all representing very high density of aether, high gravity, very slow movement of light and therefore a very slow movement of time.
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Here is a meditation technique I have used for a long time and was very excited when I learned of the delayed choice quantum eraser experiments.

From the present moment, what you observe, focus on sending your observation to your so-called past self. One minute back, one hour, one day, week, month, year, etc... Whatever you pick, keep at it. If you get in the habit of doing this, it is easy to deduce that it is very probable that your future self is sending your present self information from your present's relative future.

The future influencing the past.

I usually do this on road trips since I just get in a zone. For example, as I was driving to Las Vegas, I was in either Wyoming or Montana on a long stretch. When I see road signs, names on signs, etc... I focus on sending that info to my past self a few minutes in the past thinking that of course my future self a few minutes in the future will be doing the same and I may be able to receive the name of the signs before I get there. This is literally the future influencing the past.

As I was practicing this, I started to think of meteors and thought back to when I just finished 6th grade, my family drove to Texas before we moved back to Japan. On one stretch of road, a meteor came zooming from the sky and hit the shoulder of the road next to our car missing us by about 30 feet. It isn't every day that your whole family almost gets wiped out by a meteor so I can never forget that. I begged my dad to stop so I could try to find it but he wouldn't stop. Anyway, I started thinking about it making a crater in the ground. I think the meteor was about the size of a softball. I started thinking about craters and then an obvious association was the moon's craters. About 1 minute later, I pass some park sign about Moon Crater national park or something like that. Some lava event in the past left the ground looking like craters on the moon. When I saw this sign, I focused on sending that info back to my past self telling myself what was going to be on this sign.

As soon as we think something, the info is available in the past and this is the reason for exponential discovery over time. I'll post a diagram on this concept that I believe is very valid...at least in my own imagination.

I have had many experiences of picking up very specific things like this. Here is a corny one.

I was at my friend James' house about 5-6 years ago and he said "I hate soap operas." I don't remember how we all got on that topic but I misheard him and said "Soul Poppers??" That is what I thought he said. We all laughed about the soul popper deal and I thought poppers like jalepeno poppers those deep fried deals and then I started to think of soul music and pop music and I said that should be a new type of music...Soul Pop and I started making up some music dancing around. LOL

Anyway, we left his house and he followed me to my house. I had the radio on and some producer was talking about some new group he worked with called 6-Piece or something like that. It was some new R&B type group AND their "new" style of music is called Pop Soul! LOL

So, did I pick up on the future before it happened OR did my future self listen so intently about this new music that it influenced my past self to receive this info.

I think it is a powerful practice to do. It can be done at just about anytime. My thought is that the more this is practiced, the more unified our past, present and future selves become. We should start to become more in tune with our entire time line. Just a thought.
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You remind me of a friend that claimed to have the ability to manipulate time. He said he could steal a few minutes but that it took a lot of meditation. I am not sure of how he knew, but he has been a credible source for some amazing insight.

I agree in attempting to leave messages to the past. This however goes deep into time theory. It brings up the Titor example (came from 2036) in which his timeline and ours did not match in the end. Parallel universe etc. The question is truly that of perception. If you see an event now, and try to send it to the past, when it was not there, I can see two possibilities. In one version the past self learns of the event and alters his actions. By extension you remember that this happened, while still remembering that you sent it back. This obviously becomes a chicken/egg issue. The second version is that somehow a part of yourself continues on in the past with now a different timeline. I am fascinated by time. Can't wait to get into it a bit more. Its on route. Funny thing is that if and when I learn to manipulate time it won't matter how long it took me to get there.
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Waves That Return To The Past by Takagi Kenshiro



It's no use crying over spilt milk, as the saying goes. To err may be human; but in the world of wave mechanics, the clock can be turned back; spilt milk can be returned to the saucer. This phenomenon is called a time-reversal wave, and it can be applied to light waves, ultrasound waves, or any other kind of wave.


Consider a uniform set of plane waves. As the waves travel along, they meet various boundaries, which reflect and refract the waves. If the surfaces of these boundaries are perfectly flat, the waves retain their original shape and maintain their original course, but ...

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This is in the field of "non-linear optics" and deals with PPCM's (pump phase conjugate mirrors, which reflect light time reversed back in the opposite direction not only directionally but also time-reversed)
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Aaron,

I know these have been up for a while, but I'm just now starting the synchronicity module. It was suggested to me as something that would jumpstart my desired goals and trajectories. (I'm also on Successful Living 1 again.) I'm especially interested in resolving a certain limitation, which is the stubborn gut sense that events in my past limit my ability to manifest something different or better, or to change course (i.e., "it is too late to improve.")

I hope to have something intelligent to say about all this, and report that I have positively shifted on a gut/automatic level.
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Dont look back

There is so much in the present...

To really effect the future do now.

The immuteable words of the Blue oyster cult.

"Dont look Back"

Remember what happend to Lot in the OT Bible

A pillar of salt

Look forward... Onward and upward always ahead!
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This is an interesting question...that holds untold possibilities. But, this is what comes to mind (first when watching back to the future...lol). If it were possible to go back in time and change events...well, then you would have already experienced the change that was made...so, changing the past is impossible, because your actions from the future time jump would already be manifested in your past timeline.
The only way this could be different is if in fact there could be a "time split" with multiple dimensions.
At least in my mind
I also believe this to be true for physical and mental time travel...mental time travel (what Einstein theorized could be the only form of time travel) would most likely result in the seeding of visions...which as we are probably all aware of, exist in multitudes. So again, if it is possible it is most likely already manifested. That's my opinion anyway...
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I also believe this to be true for physical and mental time travel...mental time travel (what Einstein theorized could be the only form of time travel) would most likely result in the seeding of visions...which as we are probably all aware of, exist in multitudes. So again, if it is possible it is most likely already manifested. That's my opinion anyway...
When did Einstein theorize that mental time travel is the only form of time travel? Where can I find that?
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Bumping this very interesting article:

Waves That Return To The Past by Takagi Kenshiro



It's no use crying over spilt milk, as the saying goes. To err may be human; but in the world of wave mechanics, the clock can be turned back; spilt milk can be returned to the saucer. This phenomenon is called a time-reversal wave, and it can be applied to light waves, ultrasound waves, or any other kind of wave.


Consider a uniform set of plane waves. As the waves travel along, they meet various boundaries, which reflect and refract the waves. If the surfaces of these boundaries are perfectly flat, the waves retain their original shape and maintain their original course, but ...

See the whole article here:
Waves that Return to the Past 1
Waves that Return to the Past 2

This is in the field of "non-linear optics" and deals with PPCM's (pump phase conjugate mirrors, which reflect light time reversed back in the opposite direction not only directionally but also time-reversed)
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Thank you very much Aaron for the article about Time Reversal and the phase conjugated optics. I knew something about this, but I have concluded that there is more information that the amount I thought.
Thanks again.
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Something strange is deffinately possible regarding past events, and to a lesser extent future events also.
I've been interested in paranormal investigations for over 20 years or so, and most of our group have seen things that can't be easily explained.

For myself, I think the oddest thing is that I see some past events as if I was really there. This cannot be from my own memories, as some are waaay older than that. Most involve a traumatic event, and this is known in paranormal investigations now that they seem to leave a larger impression in "time" than other more normal events.
I've never had much of an active imagination, nor read novels, but the things I have seen would warrant an explanation of having a vivid imagination - if they were not true, but they are.

It doesn't happen often, but when I'm 'listening' for past histories, I seem to tune into it. The funny thing is that my partner also picks up on things - and we compare notes afterwards - often getting a match on trivial details.

To you it may be unbelievable, but the folowing story may help -

I was sitting enjoying a coffee in a quiet bookshop in town, and while I rested, I saw the place in a different time and light. I was sitting on the windowledge of a large georgian window - looking at a man with short black hair, his white sleeved rolled up, while he proceeded to remove teeth from a man in an upright solid chair. The man was restrained by a burly chap and leather straps. This became a blur of lots of operations on lots of people - including surgery to arms, abdomen and what seemed like abortions being performed. Lots of blood soaked cloths and water were removed in white bowls - by taking them out through a door to the right of me, and down outside steps.
This was so vivid I had to investigate it.

I traced the history of the building through tax records held at the city library, and found several good maps of the town.
In 1853, the property was owned my a Mr. Alexander Fowler - A Surgeon Dentist - but only advertised as being a dentist. This was for a five year term - after which - he moved to the Americas. Co-incidentally at the date when the anaesthetic Ether was discovered. All his operations did not use anaesthetic.
From the map of the time - the building did indeed have back stais of stone, and the present day extension was not built.
The location, was right opposite the river - which was known at the time as the place where women of ill repute worked - mostly by doing laundry or other services. He was the closest doctor to them. There were only 6 other practicing doctors in the City at that time. His Father was a "Cupper" - a form of blood-letter involving copious ammounts of blood.
Interestingly, after He left, the property was vacant for over 5 years, before being taken as a lodging by a butcher.
I do feel that there were more than a few deaths there; being a student at the College - bodies for examination were in such short supply then, that they often dug them up. Any mistakes of his were likely not to be missed.

I remember feeling physically sick at this, and there is no way I could have just guessed all this.
There is deffinately a method for recording events somehow.
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There is a fascinating history about a machine that could see the past.
It was invented in the 1970's by a Italian father, called father Ernetti.
He and 12 top-scientists of that time, spent around 10 years trying to develop the machine to see the past.

The final result was a machine that viewed the past. He wasn't never revealed to the public domain, but I think it's possible to see the past.
The Chronovision theory was based in a book called:

MATERIA E RADIAZIONE, ORIGINE E STRUTTURA. Teoria unitaria dell'universo fisico
In english is:
Matter and Radiation: origin and structure. Unified theory of the physic universe.

I bought in the net the original version of that book (maybe it was the only one bought in the net in all time). It's a very-hard to find book, and it contains information about the nature of mass, space and the explanation of "what is memory" and how the universe record information.

I know in Italy has been several people that has played past sounds from solid objects. Others have created a special camera and had got some past images.
In Colombia, there is a scientist that has built a machine several years ago, that is capable of playing the sounds recorder in any solid object. He selects the time, and automatically the sounds start to play. In russia there is also some people that have accomplished the same thing. Steinmetz, for example built a machine called the Ultravision. And I have read that other people have played sounds from the past. I think it's not a very complex technique.
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all I can think of is Willy Wonka's elevator, and Mr Wonka explaining to Charlie that it goes upways, downways, sideways, backways, frontways etc. Time isn't linear, and change is constant. So lets just say the article doesn't surprise me and I recognise that since science can only state what it can prove, I fully appreciate they can't go the whole hog and state the past, present and future are all one anyhow, as a trinity of "nowness" comprised of what we think (past), what we know (now) and what we imagine (future). Without the mind to perceive it, there is no such thing as time. It's so liberating not having an academic reputation to protect!

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There is a fascinating history about a machine that could see the past.
It was invented in the 1970's by a Italian father, called father Ernetti.
He and 12 top-scientists of that time, spent around 10 years trying to develop the machine to see the past.
I have the book from quite a while back - Father Ernetti's Chronovisor.

In my opinion, when people see that time is a measurement of aetheric
resistance to mass instead of being a dimension, there will be a quantum
leap in consciousness. Again, my opinion.
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Here is a person who basically says time travel is real and the technology is becoming available. He has a strong science background and states we need to keep certain people/countries/organizations from playing with this technology because of the dangers involved. The Anderson Institute I just posted this info from my memory - not always the best but I think the web site is fascinating.
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