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Old 02-25-2014, 07:57 PM
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Motor-Generator

An invention in which, due to the non-standard method of generation and unique design of the motor-generator, the electric motor and the generator modes are combined into one and are connected inseparably.

As a result, on applying the load, the interaction between the magnetic fields of the stator and the rotor creates a torque, which by its direction coincides with the torque generated by the external drive.
In other words, when the power consumption of the generator load is increased, the rotor of the motor-generator starts to accelerate and thus the power consumption of an external drive goes down.
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Motor Generator, Experiment 2 eng - YouTube

All details of the working principle can be found on our website at: generator-motor.info
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An invention in which, due to the non-standard method of generation and unique design of the motor-generator, the electric motor and the generator modes are combined into one and are connected inseparably.

As a result, on applying the load, the interaction between the magnetic fields of the stator and the rotor creates a torque, which by its direction coincides with the torque generated by the external drive.
In other words, when the power consumption of the generator load is increased, the rotor of the motor-generator starts to accelerate and thus the power consumption of an external drive goes down.
YouTube-Video:
Motor Generator, Experiment 1 eng - YouTube
Motor Generator, Experiment 2 eng - YouTube

All details of the working principle can be found on our website at: generator-motor.info
Hi Miroslav,

You have a very interesting design there. Congratulations on your patent award.

I wonder if the implementation (shown below) of your design might work.



It sort of reminds me of the WITTS Generator.

Analysis of the WITTS Generator

I wrote (I don't know if you could call it a paper) paper on it.

I am also reminded of Tesla's Converter.



Analysis of the WITTS Generator
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Released on February 14, 2014

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Thank you for sharing your information with us.

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PS: I went to their website and looked at their information. Very well written and very informative. generator-motor
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Old 02-28-2014, 08:12 AM
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Thumbs up Thank you Miroslav13

I went to your website and watched your videos and read all of the pages and pdf files. Thank you for the information, it is very clearly explained and helped me on my quest to understand exactly how magnetism and electricity work. EXCELLENT JOB and I wish you all the best
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Old 03-01-2014, 05:29 PM
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Hi Miroslav,

Thanks for showing this interesting motor-generator concept. There is a question I am pondering on: how such setup compare to the performance of a conventional DC motor? I mean if there is a standard permanent magnet DC motor with say 70% efficiency at a given input power and consider your setup is drawing similar input power than a normal DC motor: what could your motor efficiency be? I know your motor drives directly a built-in generator of course but the motor's output power basically the torque times speed.
So have you done such efficiency considerations or measurement?

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Old 03-02-2014, 02:50 PM
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Hi Gyula. How does this device as a motor, I can not say. I'm not working generator until collected. There is only speculation, but without proof, I can not talk about them. Sorry for my english, I use googol translator. Could look like a three-phase motor generator.
multiphase generator - YouTube
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:58 PM
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Hi Miroslav,

Thanks for your answer, I understand.
I watched your 3 phase animation, including the second one with the vertical magnet arrangement: I consider them as good ideas! Can you build and test them?

Maybe you have not read the other thread here:
Analysis of the WITTS Generator

where member Woopy (Laurent) did a small test with your setup but he found normal Lenz law effect when he loaded the output coil. I ask whether there is a special ratio needed between the diameter of permanent magnet and inner diameter of the half ring core?
What was the core material you used in your 2nd test video? Ferrite or laminated core?

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Old 03-02-2014, 06:11 PM
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I used laminated core. Figures shown when, not working/
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Old 03-02-2014, 06:20 PM
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Design requires precise geometry and winding. distance between the magnet and coil be minimal
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Old 03-02-2014, 07:21 PM
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Hi Miroslav,

Thanks for the drawings, I understand how not to wind the coil on the core.

You mention the distance to be minimal between the core and the magnet: this is a requirement for receiving the highest output power possible from the induction and NOT a requirement to get the lower input current consumption when you load the the output, is this correct?

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Old 03-02-2014, 07:28 PM
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Distance to the magnet, it only affects the output power.
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Old 03-02-2014, 07:41 PM
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Okay, thanks. Regarding the windings, you used a single layer coil or a multilayer coil in the 2nd video? If a multilayer coil was used, then how did you continue the winding when you completed the first layer on the core: you continued winding backwards or you jumped the wire again to the other side where you started the first layer?

One more question: what is the problem in the winding you wanted to illustrate in your middle drawing as not correct? (I got the first drawing and the third drawing why they are not correct. The middle drawing shows a very tight winding which is not good? Or only the distance is too big so output can be small?
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Old 03-02-2014, 08:05 PM
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Continued winding backwards. Middle figure. the center line of the magnet, outside the winding core.
need to wind the wire coil to a coil.
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Old 03-02-2014, 08:17 PM
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Okay, I understand: the center lines should match.

I invited Woopy (Laurent) to this thread, perhaps he will have some more questions next week.

Regarding your 3 phase setups: they should work and of course should give more output than the single core setup does, hopefully for less input power. Perhaps a possible looping (feeding back some of the output power to the input
could be done for the 3 (or more) phase setups.

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Old 03-02-2014, 08:22 PM
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All right. I will answer all questions.
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I used laminated core. Figures shown when, not working/
Thanks Miroslav,
Good start to what looks like a very interesting build.

This is something I've tried to replicate with the Lockridge device and such. But no success. This is something I can experiment with.

Thanks again,
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Old 03-08-2014, 03:14 AM
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Hi miroslav13 thanks for this great video. I have been struggling to build a radially wound armature and you have showed me it is far better to wind a radial half toroid. Thanks
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Very interesting research!

What if the rotating magnet where placed inside the coil?
This might explain how Newmans motor works and why he is shorting the coil after each impulse?

Also interesting in this context is one of Tesla patents nr 390721:
Retrieving Patent from PAT2PDF.org - Free PDF copies of patents: Download and print!
(BTW, its "best available copy")

And a more recent patent nr 20030025416:
Retrieving Patent from PAT2PDF.org - Free PDF copies of patents: Download and print!

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Old 03-22-2014, 04:27 AM
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Hi everyone,

I made a small replication to test the basic effect but fail to see any advantages.

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ_Fo7GNfGs

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Old 03-22-2014, 07:38 AM
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Hello
I have already written to work requires the precise geometry. Figures errors at which the device is not working.
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I ask everyone to pay attention to what is written in the claims:
The length of the statorís magnetic core is equal to the length of statorís winding so that the extreme points of the magnetic armature coincide with the extreme points of the stator winding, and the length of the winding does not exceed the length of the semicircle, and the central angle formed by the central lines of the different induction rotor poles is equal to the central angle that is formed by the extreme points of the winding.
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Old 03-24-2014, 04:45 AM
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Thumbs up I have been working on the ACMM 381.970

I have made my own ACMM, and i have seen effects of load that is connected, it does not affect the input.

Testing ACMMJB v2 TPU ECD Plus Joule Thief, Special Effect With Iron Wire - YouTube

Im now looking for and efficient generator to hook up to my ACMMJB

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Hi Miroslav,

You have a very interesting design there. Congratulations on your patent award.

I wonder if the implementation (shown below) of your design might work.



It sort of reminds me of the WITTS Generator.

Analysis of the WITTS Generator

I wrote (I don't know if you could call it a paper) paper on it.

I am also reminded of Tesla's Converter.



Analysis of the WITTS Generator
Version 1.0.7.D


Released on February 14, 2014

Download Your Free Copy


Thank you for sharing your information with us.

Regards,

Vidbid

PS: I went to their website and looked at their information. Very well written and very informative. generator-motor
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Hi Miroslav,
I got a few Questions about the Design. Does it have any reason, that you used at the outer Side 12 Magnets and 18 Coils or is it only for to drive the Wheel.
That 12 Magnets are the same arranged as the inner Magnets with half Circle S and half N poles?
Would any other Design work too for just driving the Disc?
As you did put your device together, the inner Magnets are actually on the side from the Ring, not inside?
How much layers maximal do you suggest on the inner core? I would usual think, as more layers you make there, as more Energy you can extract from it?
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Old 03-24-2014, 11:56 AM
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Hello Joit. I do not speak English. I use a translator. Unfortunately distorted sense of long sentences. Repeat questions please just do shorter phrases. Sincerely Miroslav
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Ok I try it short.

Is there a Reason, that you use 12 Magnets at the outer Side and 18 Coils?

Are the outer Magnets arranged like the inner Magnets?

Would any other Design work too for just driving the Disc?

The inner Magnets are actually on the side from the Ring, not inside?

How much windings would you make on the inner core?
I think when you have more, you can more Energy you can extract from it.

I can try to rewrite this, if it still is not translated well.
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I'll try to answer. The more turns wound onto the core, the greater the energy output. Where is the magnet from the side, from the coil, or inside, is not affected. All the experiments I did, from what I could find. I hope I understood correctly questions. Sincerely Miroslav
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Thank you. The most important parts are answered for me.
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Old 03-25-2014, 02:08 AM
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Здравствуйте Мирослав

Я постараюся більше тестів

Привіт

Люк

Hello Мирослав

I will try more tests

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Video by Sterling Allan on this generator

Did you see his video?

Free Energy March 2014 Generator Motor from Ukraine - YouTube

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Additional instructions to build the estator.

Hi Miroslav,

Thanks you very much for showing your motor-generator designs. There is a question; Is there some document describing some additional instructions to build the estator and achieve precise geometry?,,,,Or we just have to fix geometry based on pictures, like in your examples.

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Hello Unfortunately, detailed assembly instructions not. We are now at the stage of experimental design work. As soon as the results, I'll show you.
Sincerely Miroslav.
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