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Aaron
08-04-2007, 11:04 PM
I'm suprised nobody has posted anything about global warming. Here is my idea of what it is:
Earth's Magnetic Field, Global Warming and Consciousness (http://www.energeticforum.com/energetic-science-ministries/888-earths-magnetic-field-global-warming-consciousness.html)

Just an idea, no claims to accuracy, etc... lol

Shamus
08-05-2007, 12:32 PM
To me (and I'll probably get flamed for saying this) man-made global warming is practically a new religion. And most, if not all, scientists that have been put on lists as supporting the idea have been put on without their approval or consent--but how many people bother to check such things? The 'inconvenient truth' of the matter is that it's being used to shepherd in a global carbon tax--basically a tax on breathing!

Not too long ago the man-made global warming crowd were wringing their hands about the coming global ice age, so it's hard to take them too seriously. And when you ask them about the melting of the ice caps on Mars and the melting of the ice on the moons of Jupiter that's going on right now they have no answer. ;)

Aaron
08-05-2007, 04:47 PM
Shamus, you're right, the Bilderbergs having their meetings to kick off an emission tax. We'll definitely see it added to the gas pump and in addition to that who knows elsewhere.

Weakening magnetic field basically letting in more solar radiation causes the warming.

We definitely welcome all ideas here so keep them coming! :)

firehorse
08-05-2007, 08:44 PM
Hi,

A few months ago there was a documentary in UK about The Great Global Warming Swindle. Basically it presented proof that carbon dioxide was not the cause of global warming but it was the increase in the Sun's output that was causing the global warming. There were some very respected scientist backing this claim.

YouTube - The Great Global Warming Swindle 1 of 8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=8f8v5du5_ag)
YouTube - The Great Global Warming Swindle 2 of 8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=R2S5OGS-g9g&mode=related&search=)
YouTube - The Great Global Warming Swindle 3 of 8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vufPWwsUu_k&mode=related&search=)
YouTube - The Great Global Warming Swindle 4 of 8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=U9Ku1_gruaQ&mode=related&search=)
YouTube - The Great Global Warming Swindle 5 of 8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=zalexeUwtNw&mode=related&search=)
YouTube - The Great Global Warming Swindle 6 of 8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=MvkX3jNjPK8&mode=related&search=)
YouTube - The Great Global Warming Swindle 7 of 8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=660hjo4f6Ig&mode=related&search=)
YouTube - The Great Global Warming Swindle 8 of 8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=S0c9K4QGIMY&mode=related&search=)

With love and gratitude
Alan

Shamus
08-05-2007, 08:45 PM
@firehorse: Excellent documentary! And spot on! :)

@Aaron: Interesting you should mention Bilderberg--not too many people know about them and what they're doing. ;) And as far as things being pushed by politicians, you've got to ask the question cui bono? With man-made global warming being crammed down our throats, it's not too difficult to connect the dots. :thumbsup:

Aaron
11-21-2007, 08:44 PM
Check out this link for something that just makes sense in regards to global warming.
http://www.energeticforum.com/agriculture/1401-survival-civilization-john-hamaker-donald-weaver.html

ren
11-22-2007, 01:06 AM
I was talking with a friend of mine the other day and he raised a point I hadnt considered. We dont really know what the earths cycles are do we? Whos to say that what is happening around our globe weather wise isnt just a natural occurence that cycles every "x amount" of years or such. We have such limited knowledge of our past and planet that it could be so many things.

I must say though that the pollution we spew into our enviroment cant be helping, but it is indeed an evil and clever scheme to tax the population on such a perceived truth. Reality is sometimes stranger than fiction....

Aaron, have you ever read Secret Societies and their power in the 20th century by Jan Van Helsing?

future pather
11-22-2007, 03:15 AM
Imo

I really don't care to argue the point. I'm too busy trying to improve ways of living so pollution is minimized, and our resources are renewable and in harmony with the Earth.

Really what is the point of finger pointing to others that they are scheming against us?

Rather, do right in your life and all will be well.

:color: XO Jessica

Jan H
11-22-2007, 06:05 PM
i'm also with shamus,
global warming is not something we are causing by burning oil and coal, We are like ants compared to the amount of CO2 that nature kicks into the atmosphere. I remember that global warming swindle docu as well, it basically states that the sea dumps many times more co2 into the atmosphere than all our emissions put together.
I really like that documentary, but be warned, as in the inconvenient truth, this documentary also has graphs that have been played with.

And still, burning oil is still a bad thing, because they are a very valuable resource in making plastics and all other synthetic materials. Besides, it sucks to be ripped off by the only "legal" cartel in the world (OPEC)
I want free energy because i don't like to get ripped off, not because i believe that we are "destroying the earth"

Aaron
11-22-2007, 07:24 PM
I agree with all of these essentially. However, I think there are a lot more legal cartels :)

There are a few facts and that is there is too much co2 in the atmosphere and there isn't enough plant life to pull it out of the air.

Even if we did or didn't cause global warming (which we didn't), we are at least polluting too much and adding co2 in addition to what the earth is giving off. It is getting warmer even if we stop polluting but if it is getting hotter, I would rather get hot and breathe clean air than get hot and breath dirty air. So no matter what the cause, I think most everyone will agree we need to stop pollution and work on getting the co2 out of the air.

Remineralize masses of land is probably the #1 solution. Even if we have free energy, it won't do us much good if there isn't enough plant life to pull out co2 from the air. We'll be able to light bulbs for free but if all the soil is dead, we'll starve or eat food that is empty in real nutrition.

The banking elite are working hard to for a pollution tax on the planet and it is only a matter of time until we are paying a global pollution tax out of our pockets when we get cars registered, etc... of course they will pull billions or collectively trillions out of the global economy into their pockets from this pollution tax venture and I don't see anyway to stop that. If it is going to happen, then we sure have a great incentive besides our planet's well being and mankind's health to reduce pollution as fast as possible.

I understand that we can stop all the pollution all at once and the globe will continue to warm because much of the pollution is actually reflecting much of the solar radiation back into space slowing down the actual warming effect on the surface. It is masking the severity of the natural events taking place. Either way, that isn't an excuse to keep polluting. We need to reduce pollution regardless of its connection to warming and we need to remineralize the soils on a massive scale to produce enough luscious plant life globally to pull co2 out of the air.

elias
11-22-2007, 08:27 PM
I agree with all of these essentially. However, I think there are a lot more legal cartels :)

There are a few facts and that is there is too much co2 in the atmosphere and there isn't enough plant life to pull it out of the air.

Even if we did or didn't cause global warming (which we didn't), we are at least polluting too much and adding co2 in addition to what the earth is giving off. It is getting warmer even if we stop polluting but if it is getting hotter, I would rather get hot and breathe clean air than get hot and breath dirty air. So no matter what the cause, I think most everyone will agree we need to stop pollution and work on getting the co2 out of the air.

Remineralize masses of land is probably the #1 solution. Even if we have free energy, it won't do us much good if there isn't enough plant life to pull out co2 from the air. We'll be able to light bulbs for free but if all the soil is dead, we'll starve or eat food that is empty in real nutrition.

The banking elite are working hard to for a pollution tax on the planet and it is only a matter of time until we are paying a global pollution tax out of our pockets when we get cars registered, etc... of course they will pull billions or collectively trillions out of the global economy into their pockets from this pollution tax venture and I don't see anyway to stop that. If it is going to happen, then we sure have a great incentive besides our planet's well being and mankind's health to reduce pollution as fast as possible.

I understand that we can stop all the pollution all at once and the globe will continue to warm because much of the pollution is actually reflecting much of the solar radiation back into space slowing down the actual warming effect on the surface. It is masking the severity of the natural events taking place. Either way, that isn't an excuse to keep polluting. We need to reduce pollution regardless of its connection to warming and we need to remineralize the soils on a massive scale to produce enough luscious plant life globally to pull co2 out of the air.

I simply don't feel good when I drive my car which makes people breath difficultly. How does a cyclist feel when he comes across a traffic with extremely polluted air? Very terrible. We are more harming ourselves than harming nature. Although nature is under stress too, because of our ridiculous behavior. One example is the pollution of the seas by using oil, another is killing or cutting the trees and plants. We have made our city look like a junkyard in about 30-40 years! Ignorance has become so vast. They simply cut the trees, destroy the fields and build ugly buildings.

Free Energy may cure some of our environmental problems, but it cannot cure the ignorance. The main problem with humanity is ignorance, not global warming,.... So the problem lies INSIDE humanity NOT outside. If everyone wakes up and cleans and beautifies his/her inside the outside will become beautiful also.

So lets beautify ourselves ... :rainbow:

Superlight!!!
Elias

Glenn
11-22-2007, 09:26 PM
I am in agreement with Aaron's explanations. Many years ago I had a friend who introduced me to new and higher levels of science, science fiction, etc. And yes, I watched NOVA before my TV was digitilized through a satellite. It is an amzing show.

The cyle of warming and cooling is a fact. It has happened before and it will happen again as long as we have an atmosphere and magnetic field - whether humans are still around or not. However, while we may not have started the process, we certainly aren't helping and are probably in fact hastening the natural process. What consequences this will have in the future no one knows. But it isn't nice to fool with Mother Nature.

One thought I had, which may be a little obtuse, is that when people are sleeping and reaching 7.83hz could be the reason why people dream, since they are tapping into the collective consciosness.

In addition to global warming/cooling cycles and the magnetic field flipping, the Earth also rotates on it's axis every so often (five hundred thousand years or so, but don't quote me on it).

:cheers:

Jan H
11-23-2007, 05:54 PM
Glenn,
The rotation you are talking about is called precession. It's the wobble of the earth's axis. Cycle takes 26000 years
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/time/precession.gif

Now you know :)

chewysdad
11-24-2007, 01:18 AM
I vote for sham science too. A ploy to create the need for global control over commerce (one world government) I heard of a 1922 New York Times headline - The Polar Ice Caps are Melting ... (doom and gloom)
It's been widely reported that solar activity has greatly increased. The sun injects much more energy into the atmosphere than man does.
It has been reported that the Antarctic ice is at record levels of depth. Is this why the oceans aren't rising? About 15 years ago there was a Popular Science article about the temperature reporting stations is rural areas. The average temperature was decreasing

A rotating magnetic core surrounded by a pulsating magnet field forms an electric motor. Here's a speculation from me; I don't remember ever reading this:The earth is a giant electric motor. What happens if the magnetic field of the core reverses? The motor reverses! I flew commercial from Edmonton to Seattle one clear day. Looking down at the mountain ranges they looked just like the carpet in the cartoon where the dog peels out on the carpet runner and it bunches up behind him. This is what the mountain ranges looked like. What I was told in school was that the ranges were pushed up over eons by seismic activity. Yet every ridge of broken layers of rock looked just like every other ridge and the valleys were nearly parallel with each other. They didn't come up one at a time inch by inch. If the earth's magnetic field reverses get ready for a bumpy ride. Maybe.:thinking: