Jeff's Battery Swapper On Sale Now!

[aussieaussieaussie]

Hi All,

What an amazing few weeks hey!

Just inquiring regarding this new battery swapper they have for sale over at: Truth In Heart CREDIT CARD ORDERING CENTER Cost is $1200

Development of the board can be found on youtube channel: machineoftime1

Great little idea, perfect for all those bedini enthusiasts.

There is very little information regarding this device on the website, so I was hoping some of us may be able to ask some questions as potential customers.
A FAQ if you will.

I will get the ball rolling....


Will you be supplying all the relays as well?
If so, What size relays will you provide?

How many batteries will it be able to swap? Only 4?

What is the power consumption of the device?

Under normal operating conditions how much energy will be wasted by the relays in watts or %? Or has this been taken into account in the previous question?

Any safety features, for those clumsy new OU experimenters, Fuse, Breaker, Polarity etc?

How will the device you are selling differ from the device you showed at the conference and on youtube?

I hope we can get some details on this fantastic new product.

Thanks,

Ozy

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Hi All,

What an amazing few weeks hey!

Just inquiring regarding this new battery swapper they have for sale over at: Truth In Heart CREDIT CARD ORDERING CENTER Cost is $1200

Development of the board can be found on youtube channel: machineoftime1

Great little idea, perfect for all those bedini enthusiasts.

There is very little information regarding this device on the website, so I was hoping some of us may be able to ask some questions as potential customers.
A FAQ if you will.

I will get the ball rolling....


Will you be supplying all the relays as well?
If so, What size relays will you provide?

How many batteries will it be able to swap? Only 4?

What is the power consumption of the device?

Under normal operating conditions how much energy will be wasted by the relays in watts or %? Or has this been taken into account in the previous question?

Any safety features, for those clumsy new OU experimenters, Fuse, Breaker, Polarity etc?

How will the device you are selling differ from the device you showed at the conference and on youtube?

I hope we can get some details on this fantastic new product.

Thanks,

Ozy

All info on the device will be available at Potentialtec website.
Thanks

[aussieaussieaussie]

Thanks Bits,

I Look forward to the spec sheet and FAQ.

Please post here, when the website has been updated with the information.

Thanks,

Ozy

[arKzeRo]

That's a lot of money for something that can be made very cheaply and easily from the many open source designs out there!

So what is so special to warrant such a hefty price? Is this something new?

My 4 batt swapper cost only a few pounds to make!

Best Regards

[aussieaussieaussie]

Hi ArkZero,

Please post details of your open source battery swapper here, so Bits can compare his model to yours and what improvements he has made.

A open source, micro processor controlled battery swapper, is only a few months away I am sure. But Bit's is well respected here, so I am sure he has something crafty and unique here that is worth the hefty price tag, I am sure?

I am sure he will explain soon,

Otherwise look forward to the design you refer to, not all of us have $1200 to fork out!

Ozy

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Hi ArkZero,

Please post details of your open source battery swapper here, so Bits can compare his model to yours and what improvements he has made.

A open source, micro processor controlled battery swapper, is only a few months away I am sure. But Bit's is well respected here, so I am sure he has something crafty and unique here that is worth the hefty price tag, I am sure?

I am sure he will explain soon,

Otherwise look forward to the design you refer to, not all of us have $1200 to fork out!

Ozy

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post117292

[kippered]

I might be wrong but the battery swapper is available if you want it for research purposes and not to start a product war.

It is easy to make something based on a timer that swaps batteries around but does it monitor the charge levels and make smart decisions?

If so then build one and put it up for sale at a better price!

personally I think $1200 is not expensive unless you place no value on his time. If you build one yourself that is as neat and tidy as Bit's has it will surely cost you more to develop a prototype and give you nothing for the time effort which is worth more than money in this world.

I want Bits to make money off this because he will then be encouraged to build bigger and better things. Imagine the work he could accomplish if he did not have to work on anything except free energy concepts?

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

It is always interesting to observe adoration at work
without any necessity for sufficient evidence upon
which to make an "informed" choice.

A BUSINESSMAN may attempt to charge whatever
price fancies him for his "offering."

A BUSINESSMAN with scruples will make an honest
effort to answer questions.

An UNSCRUPULOUS BUSINESSMAN will dodge questions
with display of emotion and doubletalk.

Is the "esteemed Bits" one or the other? Which?

An "image" is definitely taking shape.

At this particular moment in history it is easier than
it has ever been to make such a device. Is the present
"asking price" justified?

It will be most interesting to see how this discussion
"unfolds."

Not sure where you are trying to take this SeaMonkey, But I am going to take this as an attack on myself. Clearly this is against the forum rules.

Jeff

[kippered]

It is always interesting to observe adoration at work
without any necessity for sufficient evidence upon
which to make an "informed" choice.

A BUSINESSMAN may attempt to charge whatever
price fancies him for his "offering."

A BUSINESSMAN with scruples will make an honest
effort to answer questions.

An UNSCRUPULOUS BUSINESSMAN will dodge questions
with display of emotion and doubletalk.

Is the "esteemed Bits" one or the other? Which?

An "image" is definitely taking shape.

At this particular moment in history it is easier than
it has ever been to make such a device. Is the present
"asking price" justified?

It will be most interesting to see how this discussion
"unfolds."

The market place determines the value of products and this is no different. People will Buy it or build their own and sell it for cheaper because this market seems to be demanding the product (depending on actual sales), therefore there is more to financially gain.

The product itself has been well described more than once so I dont see any mystery. I personally will not buy this product because I am way far behind on energizer concepts to make it of any value to me right now and I dont have a solar array or battery bank to charge.

[SeaMonkey]

Not sure where you are trying to take this SeaMonkey, But I am going to take this as an attack on myself. Clearly this is against the forum rules.

Jeff

All things considered, I suppose this will go
where ever you take it. Actions often speak
louder than words.

Your response to the various questions up
to this point has been less than "illuminating."

It is not nice to try to take advantage of the
uneducated many.

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

All things considered, I suppose this will go
where ever you take it. Actions often speak
louder than words.

Your response to the various questions up
to this point has been less than "illuminating."

It is not nice to try to take advantage of the
uneducated many.

Well it's obvious you haven't take the time to read. I will C/P from the Conference thread the specs and see the link as it has dwgs attached.



While I demonstrated it on the 10 coiler at the show, this swapper can be used on almost any application. For example, I have a 48 volt Solar Panel that feeds the charging input of this device and the swapper maintains each battery while service my Grid Tie inverter.

The Battery Swapper and Charger is a compact, but very complex device to move batteries in and out of a load environment for the purpose of charging each battery individually. With its LCD read out , terminal monitoring, logging capabilities and complex programming, this device can be used as a “Auto” or “Manual” Charger by selecting functionality presented on the LCD or Terminal display. Each section presented in this manual will explain the operational features of this device.

The Components:

1. Housing
2. LCD
3. Reset Switch
4. Select Switch
5. Enter Switch
6. Auto / Manual Switch
7. Charging LED
8. Individual Battery LED’s
9. Terminal / Programming Input
10. Output Amp Meter

Connecting the Device: (See the load connection configurations at the end of this section).

1.Connect the Battery Cables to the Battery’s. *****CAUTION***** OBSERVE THE CORRECT POLAIRITY WHEN PLACING THE CABLES ON THE BATTERY’S.
2.Connect the AC Power Cable to the wall outlet.

Making a Selection:

When the Battery Cables have been placed Correctly on the battery and the AC wall adapter is plugged in, the LCD Panel will display “Select Auto or Manual Charge ” and “Press Enter”. At this point, using the “Auto / Manual” Charge switch” (6), place the switch in the desired mode, “Auto” or “Manual” then press the “Enter Switch” (5) to initiate the beginning of the mode selected.

The Auto Charge Mode:

With this mode selected, the device will initially test each battery to determine which battery has the least voltage. The battery with the lowest voltage in selected and placed onto the “charge rail”. The device then reads the voltage and displays that value on the LCD. After the device engages the charge relay it begins the charge cycle. The Battery’s voltage is consistently monitored at 15 sec. intervals. At the end of each charge cycle, the battery is allowed to “Rest”. At the end of the “Rest” period, the battery’s voltage is sampled. The complex programming of the device, determines if the battery is fully charged. If the battery is fully charged, the battery is placed back onto the load rail and the automatic selection of the next lowest battery is repeated. If the battery is still not fully charged, the charging cycle is repeated. This operation is continuous. If it is desired to terminate the Auto Charging process, pushing the RESET button (3) will terminate the process and return the device to the “Select Auto or Manual Charge ” and “Press Enter” screen.


The Manual Charge Mode:

If the “Auto / Manual Charge Switch” is place into the “Manual” position and the “Enter Switch” is pressed, the LCD will display “Batt 1” and by pressing and holding “Enter”, “Batt 1” charging would be started. Just as in the Auto Charge routine, the device engages the charge relay which begins the charge cycle. The Battery’s voltage is consistently monitored at 15 sec. intervals. At then end of each charge cycle, the battery is allowed to “Rest”. At the end of the “Rest” period, the battery’s voltage is sampled and the complex programming of the device, determines if the battery is fully charged. If the battery is fully charged, the battery is placed back onto the load rail. The program is then returned to the “Select Auto / Manual Charge” display. Should it be desired to select a different Battery, ensure the “Auto / Manual” Charge switch” (6) is in the “Manual” position, then press and hold the “Select Switch” without pressing the Enter Switch to scroll through the 4 different Battery Selection Options. “Batt 1”, “Batt 2”, “Batt 3”, and “Batt 4”. Continuing to press the “Selection Switch” at “Batt 4” will return to “Batt 1”. Once the appropriate Battery is selected for charging, pressing and holding the “Enter Switch” will begin the charging process as described earlier in the section.

Resetting the Battery Swapper:

At any time, the device can be reset using the “Reset Switch” (3). The device will cycle to the beginning of the program and prompt for “Auto” or “Manual” charging.


RS232 Mode:

Connecting a Serial Cable to the DB9 connector, and with a PC / Laptop running HyperTerminal, the information being displayed on the LCD can also be displayed to the terminal screen. Configure Hyper terminal for 9600, 8, N, 1 and make a connection. Start the MachineOfTime1 Battery Swapper as described earlier in this manual and observe the Terminal screen. Hyper terminal also has a logging feature that can be used to store information during the “Auto” or “Manual” charging process.


A BUSINESSMAN with scruples will make an honest
effort to answer questions. However, some may just not listen!


Thanks


Jeff

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Well it's obvious you haven't take the time to read. I will C/P from the Conference thread the specs and see the link as it has dwgs attached.



While I demonstrated it on the 10 coiler at the show, this swapper can be used on almost any application. For example, I have a 48 volt Solar Panel that feeds the charging input of this device and the swapper maintains each battery while service my Grid Tie inverter.

The Battery Swapper and Charger is a compact, but very complex device to move batteries in and out of a load environment for the purpose of charging each battery individually. With its LCD read out , terminal monitoring, logging capabilities and complex programming, this device can be used as a “Auto” or “Manual” Charger by selecting functionality presented on the LCD or Terminal display. Each section presented in this manual will explain the operational features of this device.

The Components:

1. Housing
2. LCD
3. Reset Switch
4. Select Switch
5. Enter Switch
6. Auto / Manual Switch
7. Charging LED
8. Individual Battery LED’s
9. Terminal / Programming Input
10. Output Amp Meter

Connecting the Device: (See the load connection configurations at the end of this section).

1.Connect the Battery Cables to the Battery’s. *****CAUTION***** OBSERVE THE CORRECT POLAIRITY WHEN PLACING THE CABLES ON THE BATTERY’S.
2.Connect the AC Power Cable to the wall outlet.

Making a Selection:

When the Battery Cables have been placed Correctly on the battery and the AC wall adapter is plugged in, the LCD Panel will display “Select Auto or Manual Charge ” and “Press Enter”. At this point, using the “Auto / Manual” Charge switch” (6), place the switch in the desired mode, “Auto” or “Manual” then press the “Enter Switch” (5) to initiate the beginning of the mode selected.

The Auto Charge Mode:

With this mode selected, the device will initially test each battery to determine which battery has the least voltage. The battery with the lowest voltage in selected and placed onto the “charge rail”. The device then reads the voltage and displays that value on the LCD. After the device engages the charge relay it begins the charge cycle. The Battery’s voltage is consistently monitored at 15 sec. intervals. At the end of each charge cycle, the battery is allowed to “Rest”. At the end of the “Rest” period, the battery’s voltage is sampled. The complex programming of the device, determines if the battery is fully charged. If the battery is fully charged, the battery is placed back onto the load rail and the automatic selection of the next lowest battery is repeated. If the battery is still not fully charged, the charging cycle is repeated. This operation is continuous. If it is desired to terminate the Auto Charging process, pushing the RESET button (3) will terminate the process and return the device to the “Select Auto or Manual Charge ” and “Press Enter” screen.


The Manual Charge Mode:

If the “Auto / Manual Charge Switch” is place into the “Manual” position and the “Enter Switch” is pressed, the LCD will display “Batt 1” and by pressing and holding “Enter”, “Batt 1” charging would be started. Just as in the Auto Charge routine, the device engages the charge relay which begins the charge cycle. The Battery’s voltage is consistently monitored at 15 sec. intervals. At then end of each charge cycle, the battery is allowed to “Rest”. At the end of the “Rest” period, the battery’s voltage is sampled and the complex programming of the device, determines if the battery is fully charged. If the battery is fully charged, the battery is placed back onto the load rail. The program is then returned to the “Select Auto / Manual Charge” display. Should it be desired to select a different Battery, ensure the “Auto / Manual” Charge switch” (6) is in the “Manual” position, then press and hold the “Select Switch” without pressing the Enter Switch to scroll through the 4 different Battery Selection Options. “Batt 1”, “Batt 2”, “Batt 3”, and “Batt 4”. Continuing to press the “Selection Switch” at “Batt 4” will return to “Batt 1”. Once the appropriate Battery is selected for charging, pressing and holding the “Enter Switch” will begin the charging process as described earlier in the section.

Resetting the Battery Swapper:

At any time, the device can be reset using the “Reset Switch” (3). The device will cycle to the beginning of the program and prompt for “Auto” or “Manual” charging.


RS232 Mode:

Connecting a Serial Cable to the DB9 connector, and with a PC / Laptop running HyperTerminal, the information being displayed on the LCD can also be displayed to the terminal screen. Configure Hyper terminal for 9600, 8, N, 1 and make a connection. Start the MachineOfTime1 Battery Swapper as described earlier in this manual and observe the Terminal screen. Hyper terminal also has a logging feature that can be used to store information during the “Auto” or “Manual” charging process.


A BUSINESSMAN with scruples will make an honest
effort to answer questions. However, some may just not listen!


Thanks


Jeff

A BUSINESSMAN with scruples will also ask the consumers what they want in a product.

Search on this thread;
What would you like in a Battery Swapper?

[SeaMonkey]

Well it's obvious you haven't take the time to read. I will C/P from the Conference thread the specs and see the link as it has dwgs attached.

...

A BUSINESSMAN with scruples will make an honest
effort to answer questions. However, some may just not listen!


Thanks


Jeff

You've responded wisely and have consolidated
your "selling points" into one easily found and
digested location.

This is encouraging to say the least.

Potentially interested "buyers" should not be
made to search in order to "cut and paste" a
precis together.

Next we must encourage you to seek out
spelling errors to make correction.

I am certain many will thank you for this effort.

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

You've responded wisely and have consolidated
your "selling points" into one easily found and
digested location.

This is encouraging to say the least.

Potentially interested "buyers" should not be
made to search in order to "cut and paste" a
precis together.

Next we must encourage you to seek out
spelling errors to make correction.

I am certain many will thank you for this effort.

So what are you going to produce? Spew does not count as a product. BTW, you’ll note there are NO spelling errors in this message!

Jeff

[SeaMonkey]

So what are you going to produce? Spew does not count as a product. BTW, you’ll note there are NO spelling errors in this message!

Jeff

I do not produce any products to be sold.

All that I fabricate is given freely to those
who have a need for some specific device
or service.

Retirement has its advantages.