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  • Stan Meyers VIC for the Injectors

    We know the VIC is used to charge the Water Fuel Cell Capacitor.

    We know it has a primary, secondary, a set of chokes, and a diode, but how does it work?

    The concept of the VIC

    When no voltage is applied to the water molecule, no water will be split!

    It should make sense to everyone here that in order to have the highest efficiency the applied voltage should be constant.

    Stan Meyers VIC does exactly that, it provides a constant high voltage output, 100% duty cycle.

    How it works

    The best way to describe Stan’s VIC is by looking at it as two separate circuits.

    Each circuit has an inductor, and shares the same capacitor. Each circuit has the same resonant frequency.

    The first circuit puts out a resonant pulse of a 50% duty cycle, as soon at it’s pulse ends the second circuit puts out a resonant pulse of a 50% duty cycle. Add the two and you get 100% duty cycle, constant voltage.

    As Stan States in patent # 4,936,961: talking about the Resonant Charging Choke circuit:
    "In this manner a continuous voltage is produced across the capacitor plates…”

    The Blocking diode

    When an inductors magnetic field collapses the current flow reverses, the blocking diode prevents this, keeping the capacitor charged continusously.

    Stainless Steel 430 wire:

    The 430 SS wire is needed!

    In this case we’ll use an auto ignition coil as an example.

    In an auto ignition coil, the high voltage is produced by having more turns on the secondary than the primary, commonly known as the turns ratio. The secondary has thousands of turns of tiny copper wire, which has a high resistance to current flow because of it’s size. (typically 8-13K ohms)

    The VIC gets it’s high voltage from capacitance multiplying (not from the turns ratio). Because of this there is much less wire, so the SS wire was used to get the needed resistance of 11.6K ohms.


    Electrical Steel core:

    The Grain Oriented Electrical Steel core is mentioned numerous times in the Tech Brief as being the core for the VIC, and the pictures of the VIC confirm this.

    The Grain Oriented Electrical Steel Core is used for many reasons. First, it has a very high permeability, which makes for large inductances, ( Up to 30 Henries per coil in the VIC!) The high inductance causes a greater current lag (restricting current), and also reduces the resonant frequency.

    Take a 100pF capacitor, and a 10mH inductor, the resonant frequency is 159kHz

    Now take the same 100pF cap, and use a 10H inductor, the resonant frequency is just 5kHz!

    From my calculations ( studying Stan’s pictures, Tech Brief and talking with people who have seen them first hand) I believe the water fuel injector will have a capacitance in the range of 1000-5000pF as the dielectric changes.

    High inductance is needed to reduce the resonant frequency, the lower the resonant freq is, the smaller the changes in resonance will be (the dielectric changes continuously within the water capacitor.)


    The use of the different wire sizes was to get the coils to have matching inductance, I have to thank H2OPOWER for he taught much about the VIC.


    The drawing below shows a way to build the Injector VIC with only 1 choke. The VIC has 14 cavities, and the drawing shows only 2 pancaks coils per cavity, in reality there should be more.

    This VIC is modeled after a typical ignition coil, see the following post to understand why:

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    The drawing above shows one way the injector VIC could be built, but as I have learned the VIC is better with 2 chokes because of mutual inductance, see post # 4.
    Last edited by HMS-776; 06-01-2009, 05:51 PM.

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    This is my vic it works quite well
    Your schematic miss one choke and the diode direction i think is wrong

    discussion about phase lock loop design by meyer
    help Feedback winding for resonance with pll 4046 - Electronic Circuits Projects Diagrams Free
    Last edited by sebosfato; 07-17-2012, 07:49 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by HMS-776
      Mutual Inductance & Coupling Coefficient

      All coils voltage flow is in the same direction. One side of the VIC will have all the positive connections, and the other side of the VIC will have all the negative/ground connections.

      YES, but be careful in how the circuit is connected or you wont get the 4x inductance!
      See JPG. below
      Last edited by TRON; 09-23-2009, 06:47 PM.

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