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illusions
08-31-2008, 11:12 AM
I've come across so many people (and I was one of them!) who do EVERYTHING "right" - Visualization (including feeeling the feeeling, vision boards etc.); Meditation; Positive Thoughts; Changing their language to focus on the Positive; Imagining they already have what they want; Acting as if they already have what they want...... etc. etc. .... and STILL don't have what they want.

It's a frustrating position to be in because, from my own experience, the answer from others is always "But you should...", "Well you're not..." and so on. There always seems to be something to pick on that the person is doing "wrong".

When a person has done EVERYthing they've been taught in order to use the LOA to their advantage, and it's still not working, it's really frutstrating to hear there's something ELSE they should be doing. If it works for others with just visualisation, then it should work for everyone with just visualisation.

Here's what I've found.... If you want something, it is already yours from the moment you want it. What keeps it from you, is Old Programming.

From birth we are automatically picking up patterns, beliefs and programming that sit in the unconscious. So, I can do all the Visualisation and Positive thinking possible - I can Consciously believe I already have what I want. I can Affirm and Intend my heart out, but if every cell in my body is programmed with an Unconscious belief that I don't deserve it, or that it's dangerous to change the status quo, I will block what I want at all costs (obviously not consciously).

It's like driving with the brake on. Positive Visualisation and Affirmations etc. WILL work - but it takes much longer than we expect. We're trying to change Unconscious programming, not conscious thinking.

And here's something that makes a Huge difference:
It's different for everyone. Because of the UNIQUE experience of each human being, their unconscious programming is like no-one else's.

I found it effortless to attract my ideal life partner (I litterally just wrote down all the qualities I wanted in a partner, and then forgot about it. A couple of months later, I met someone who had all those qualities! (I only remembered the list after we'd been together a while. We've now been together for 10 years)... but no matter WHAT I did, I could not attract ANY money. And yet there are others who are able to attract plenty of money, but, although they've done EXACTLY what I did, cannot find love. Although I did EXACTLY what they did (spiritually AND physically!!), I could not attract money.....

That is because my unconscious programming MUST have had beliefs about money, that contradicted my conscious desires. I wasn't "doing" anything wrong - I was driving perfectly - exactly the way I'd been taught, and the way I'd watched others drive... but my brake was on and I didn't know it! ;)

So, if you're feeling despondent and frustrated that you're doing everything right and yet you still haven't got what you want. Take it easy on yourself - You're trying to use a pencil to write over instructions which are carved in stone. You may need to use another tool to file down those carved writings, before your new instructions will show clearly. And it'll take a while if you're using just a pencil.

Apart from patience, time, and understanding how much is involved in changing unconscious beliefs, you can also try a variety of tools which are designed to help clear old patterns and beliefs. (EFT, Paths, NLP, Self Hypnosis... there are many to choose from, pick the one that feels good to you). But remind yourself, it's not the tool that is creating/ attracting what you want. Those tools are to help clear old unconscious programming so that YOU can do, Automatically, what comes naturally - attracting what you focus on.

In the meantime, when things appear to go wrong, remind yourself "I'm driving with the brake on. But I'm working on releasing it." And hopefully that will help reduce the stress a little - which will contribute to your point of attraction in the moment of course ;)

Love and Light and Magic xxx

Gary
09-01-2008, 12:21 AM
Illusions, this is a fantastic and informative posts that I think many people need to read, especially anyone struggling with success in drawing what they want into their lives.

I feel like I might have been lucky as whatever blocks I was experiencing were washed away quickly with the use of PATHS and some self awareness, but I would imagine it would be incredibly frustrating for someone trying to execute life changes strictly using the principals of LOA with no turbochargers and experiencing limited or no success.

What may complicate matters more for people is the time it sometimes takes for things to transpire. People doing things right, not seeing any success and then stopping, unknowingly halting whatever success was initially set in motion. I guess everyone can be impatient from time to time, but there is quite a bit to be said for determination, consistency and perseverance. It seems you can almost always get things done when you stay on track no matter what.

Thanks for the great insight!

Rin
09-05-2008, 12:17 PM
I agree, thank you so much for the insight! You have written a very wise post (as per usual!), and by coincidence this is a topic that I have been pondering lately, and come to pretty much the same conclusion as you: everyone is different. This is one of the reasons I've become so reluctant to speak about my PATHS successes (and there are many), because I know for sure that they will not be relevant or helpful to other people, even those who are struggling with the same issues as me. Thank you for this post, Illusions! :heartthrob:

belle99
09-05-2008, 05:23 PM
Illusions,

This is so true for me--only my "old programming" is in the areas of career/work AND relationship. I can attract a relationship but then I lose it or I can't deepen it! I attract jobs that are half of what I want, and then I long for the other half! I am a powerful manifestor, and I know this to be true, because I have manifested things so incredibly....like almost new furniture for the cash in my pocket...the synchronicities I have had in my life (even prior to the synchronicity module) would be astonishing enough to be a sequel to The Secret.

I have found that PATHS has helped a lot with making it easier to loosen up the mental phlegm, but it is taking me a combination of other efforts (Grace's corrections, reading, visualizing) to let go of it all and it just seems to keep coming. I am fed up with the monumental task of getting that "brake" unstuck. It has cost me so much money and energy....But at least I feel like I finally have a useful "inventory" of what's there and what needs to go.

Thanks for speaking this truth!:hug:

illusions
09-05-2008, 06:31 PM
Hi Gary, Rin and Belle :)

Thanks so much for your responses - it's so great to hear your views on this. :hug:

Gary: "What may complicate matters more for people is the time it sometimes takes for things to transpire. People doing things right, not seeing any success and then stopping, unknowingly halting whatever success was initially set in motion."

Spot On, Gary!! That's exactly what I think so many of us do! (I know I've done that a few times!:rolleyes: )

Rin, I do feel that each of us is unique in the patterns and subconscious beliefs we develop because of our unique experiences; and that there is a different combination of tools and perspective tweakers that will work for each of us; but I also believe that the only way to find our own, is by hearing from others, and trying things out. The way I found Paths was by reading forum posts from others about the results they were having.

I think that as long as a person follows what feeeels good, and as long as they recognise that they have a unique combination of patterns and programs running on automatic - and that the way to clear or reprogram those may be one, or a combination of tools that may work differently for each person, they'll be drawn to what works for them. And as long as they have the patience with themselves (realising it can be as time-consuming as filing down carvings in stone before being able to carve new writings), they WILL do it.

And what works for you in one way, may work for someone else - in a different way. On the other hand, one thing that works for you may work for someone else exactly the same..... and yet something else you have success with may appear to have no effect on them. This may be because their unique programming needs something different, OR.... it may be that it just takes longer! ;) It's always great to hear from you Rin, and looking forward to hearing more. :hearts:

Belle, Well done for sticking it out! Good for you!! Presumably your Work/Career and Relationship programming is (like my finance programming was) really ettttched into that stone lol. And Paths, and Grace, and everything else you're doing, is sllllllowly filing that down. It's to be expected to take quite some time when you compare it to something like words carved deeply into stone. Almost like erosion by beliefs ;) Over and over that belief/idea/experience/reality has etched itself into the rock, and now it's bound to take a lot of filing to smooth it out. And that of course will take time, no matter how hard and fast you file.

Affirmations and Visualisation are like manual files - files you hold and personally push back and forth. Paths is like an electric file - more automated. You still have to hold it there (watch the modules), but it does the filing for you. However, with really deep etchings, it's going to still take some time. Not as long as the manual file, but still some time.

Keep going. As soon as you've erased those old patterns, the new ones will take over so quickly it'll stun you and appear to be Magic and Miracle. :D

Love and Light and Magic xxx

belle99
09-05-2008, 07:30 PM
Hi Gary, Rin and Belle :)


Belle, Well done for sticking it out! Good for you!! Presumably your Work/Career and Relationship programming is (like my finance programming was) really ettttched into that stone lol. And Paths, and Grace, and everything else you're doing, is sllllllowly filing that down. It's to be expected to take quite some time when you compare it to something like words carved deeply into stone. Almost like erosion by beliefs ;) Over and over that belief/idea/experience/reality has etched itself into the rock, and now it's bound to take a lot of filing to smooth it out. And that of course will take time, no matter how hard and fast you file.

Affirmations and Visualisation are like manual files - files you hold and personally push back and forth. Paths is like an electric file - more automated. You still have to hold it there (watch the modules), but it does the filing for you. However, with really deep etchings, it's going to still take some time. Not as long as the manual file, but still some time.

Keep going. As soon as you've erased those old patterns, the new ones will take over so quickly it'll stun you and appear to be Magic and Miracle. :D

Love and Light and Magic xxx

You just gave me an awesome idea for a visualization: there are many other ways to go about this:

The rock with the words etched into it is a tombstone, marking the life and death of Miss Negativity, may she rest in peace.
Or, I could blast through the rock with a laser of white light and let it turn into little diamonds, or seeds of flowers.
Or I could speed up time and watch the "millenia" pass in time-lapse photography as the sun and rain file those inscriptions away.


:grindaisy:

Adrienne
09-11-2008, 02:57 AM
hmm, thanks for starting this thread..
interesting, cuz i find that i have gone back to certain modules cuz the first time around filed down so much...
then next time another layer...
yes but it definitly is an electric file.
and i also too get tierd and frustrated with the continouse trudging of filing.
however reading here today has lifted me up to know i am following my desires which is to change the programing.
Adrienne

illusions
11-05-2008, 10:54 AM
I knew there was another analogy to describe this, and it's just come to me when answering another post on this subject.... :thumbsup:

Have you ever tried to change a parting in hair without using product - just combing it the other way? It takes a while because it's GROWN in that particular direction, and combing it the other way results in it springing back to it's original position :wall: - because that's how it's "programmed".

It takes a long time of wet combing it, over and over each day, to get it to eventually start growing into the new style. If you use a product like gel or hairspray (Paths for example), it still takes a while, but it's quicker than using just comb and water.

This is the same with changing patterns. Just keep doing what you're doing, and add to it: treating yourself with kindness, compassion and understanding. And remind yourself that it will take a while to change these patterns. If you remember just how many days of your life you've been living the old way (how many days that hair has been growing in that direction), it makes sense that it will take a while for the changes to show. :thinking:

Love and Light and Magic xxx

noises
04-28-2009, 04:27 AM
Keely's take on the LOA comes with a flipside I'd like to share.

Law Of Attraction

Juxtaposed coherent aggregates vibrating in unison or harmonic ratio are mutually attracted.


Law of Repulsion

Juxtaposed coherent aggregates vibrating in dischord are mutually repelled.


Now, attracting something to be thankful for by vibrating in harmony with having something to be thankful for by being thankful is pretty much what you guys have talked about so far here, not to nutshell it too much, am I right?

A hard truth some people never get around to facing is they're so attached to what they jump up and down and say they don't want, that it's all they vibrate in harmonic ratio with. Very important to understand, vibrating in grattitude for good health is in harmony with health and thus attracts or sustains good health, vibrating in tune with an intent to be rid of a symptom is vibrating in harmony with the symptom and thus attracts or sustains the symptom. Or to put it another way, don't expect the LOA to bring you joy and abundence if you're sitting there most of the day wishing you weren't so miserable and poor.

Also important to understand the second part of the LOA, the law of repulsion. If you're vibrating in tune with something else that isn't in harmony with what you spend 10 or 15% of your day trying to attract, you're engaging the law of repulsion for the other 85 to 90% of the day. Shall we do the math together on how long it takes to manifest the desired result with numbers like that working for you? Yes? Let's see then, never, divided by forever, carry eternity... let's round it down to 'quite a while.'

I'm also a bit worried that some people don't seem to apply the following logic. If you have athritis, you use the LOA bring you a way to heal the joints, not to make the pain stop so you can continue to grind your knuckles, wrists or knees to dust. It's common sense, and it not as if it only applies to the health and the LOA, be a bit lateral, it even applies to financial abundence - Treat the illness, not the symptom. Take some time to understand the real problem, and address that.

And as always, remember to spare a little to share a little.
Namaste,
nathan.