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Bob Smith
07-23-2008, 03:02 AM
I'm wondering if anyone's found a method for gum tissue regeneration. I've been drinking alkalyzed water for 4 months, and it's done wonders for my health, but my gumline is receding faster than usual. In addition, I am now gluten and dairy free, on the specific carbohydrate diet about 3 months, juicing regularly, but the gumline seems to keep receding.

I saw something on an Arnold's Way video on youtube that a raw food diet may promote gum tissue regeneration. I'm wondering if zapping or using a home made version of the mexi-stim might help as well.

Any thoughts/suggestions from anyone?
Bobby Smith

Aaron
07-23-2008, 03:07 AM
Hi Bob,

Ascorbic acid and cayenne pepper is something I have used with actually some basic results but that is NOT for everyone..lol...depending on how much you like cayenne papper on your gums.

I've been experimenting with some PATHS instructions for not only gum regeneration but also "tooth bone" regeneration. It may be available this year but not sure yet.

Ayurved
07-23-2008, 03:40 AM
Hi Bobby!
I can pass along what I've experienced.

I have had really good luck with clients with all sorts of tooth and gum complaints...switching them to a neem toothpaste, and using seseme seed oil. In morning after brushing, you massage some seseme oil over gums with finger. At night before bed, swish some seseme oil, and leave as much on overnight as you can. A light rinse if you must.

This is different than oil pulling....where you swish 1st thing in the Am, larger amount and for a whole 10 - 15 minutes min. Oil should be foamy when spit out for healing method too, but oil after oil pull it has changed even more, its broken down and almost watery. Oil pulling would prob have this additional benefit of helping gums too.
Ayurveda considers gum receding mostly ++ vata; tooth and gum prob, vata and pitta, esp if bleeding. Whole system balance can help too....what led up to gums getting unbalanced.

I used to have spongy, bleeding gums and after a few months of neem toothpaste, my gums were so strong, my dentist couldn't them down to adjust a crown!

You can also chew a tsp white seseme seeds a day, this exercises the gums and is super high in calcium. Reg toothpaste is really bad for the mouth and causes tartar.

All Best to you!!! Send your gums some love!!!
Nancy

Aaron
07-23-2008, 05:10 AM
You can also chew a tsp white seseme seeds a day

Hi Nancy,

That is interesting on the seseme seeds because I read that is one of the main oils for oil pulling...maybe a connection? I haven't tried oil pulling yet but will. I haven't brushed with "regular" toothpaste in many years. The only thing I use these days is Xylitol toothpaste and Spry is my favorite.

I sold a lot of Neem toothpaste in my health food store before but never used it myself.

Ayurved
07-23-2008, 06:26 AM
Gee Aaron,
I don't know how connected todays 'oil pulling' practice is with Ayurveda.
Its super cool and interesting that its had a resurgence!
Ayurveda has a super long history of using oils in the mouth, wide usage of oils for everything! ie, if you want to get creative with oils...look to Ayurveda!

Seseme is most likely to be the only type used in this case (ayurv speaking)....as seseme is the most nurturing and heavy to calm vata. Receeding would point to a lack rather than excess, so tissue has to be 'built'.

I just started AM oil pulling myself...feels good so far!

In Graditude,

Nancy

Bob Smith
07-23-2008, 04:03 PM
Thanks everyone for your responses. I've been using extra virgin olive oil for my pulling; will switch to sesame, and will try and see if I can find the neem toothpaste (I don't use paste right now, only baking soda once in awhile).
Apprecatively,
Bob

wpage
07-23-2008, 09:10 PM
Hi,

A research MD recommends:thumbsup: brushing with baking soda.

Follow with rinsing with hydrogen peroxide & water 50/50 mix.

This is better gum therapy. He is not a dentist but a immunologist...:notworthy:

W:peaceflag:

Bob Smith
07-25-2008, 03:06 AM
Wpage and everyone else, thanks for sharing your info. I've done some more research, and found info stating that gum problems are often a secondary effect of calcium loss in the jawbone. If a person's calcium intake is low, and the body is acidic due to poor diet or infection (or for any other reason), calcium will be leeched from the bones to buffer the body's overall acidity. According to what I read, as calcium is leeched from the jaw, teeth become loose, bacteria get in at the roots, and problems begin with the gums.

This makes sense. My gum problems accelerated after my wife and I bought and began using a water alkalyzer. We both experienced candida die-off, which I believe would lower the body's pH (ie. raise acidity level). In addition, my doctor told me my calcium was low, and I needed to be taking calcium supplements. Given the fact that I am dairy intolerant, all the more reason... My calcium supplement-taking was sporadic, with gaps of days and sometimes weeks. Now I understand the importance (and am back on, needless to say :o).

Some time ago, I had read that Dr. Hulda Clark recommends putting a few drops of oregano oil in a spoon, rubbing one's toothbrush bristles in the oil, and massaging the oil into the gums. This is supposed to kill the bacteria (I think claustridium) well below the gumline. I've done it a number of times. Sure feels invigorating to the gums, to say the least, and the burning only lasts about a minute.

Anyway, that's it for me for now. Thanks again everyone for sharing.
Bob Smith

future pather
07-25-2008, 05:12 AM
Bob,

I think you've got things correct in your situation. However I see it slightly different.

The acidity would be the problem that caused the calcium to leech from the bone, just like when a chicken bone is in vinegar the calcium separates.

In many cases, people do not solve the acidity problem and taking calcium actually becomes a problem bc their body already had stored calcium which separated from their bones and which became artery plaque and stones. (Some is excreted but not all.)

In your case, you are creating an environment where your body can now do the proper thing with calcium and since you don't do dairy it sounds great that you are adding calcium.

All of the water I drink has a pH of 7.5 by using a faucet filter from phmiracleliving.com (changes from 6.5 to 7) and sprinkling a bit of baking soda in (changes to 7.5).

Once a day I take an alkalizing powder which is mixed in liquid (I use vanilla soy milk) and it contains lots of vitamins and minerals, and has calcium.

The alkalizing powder imo is probably the simplest way for someone to combat acidosis but there are many.

Good foods to help are avocado and cucumber. Believe it or not, lemon actually alkalizes after it is digested.

Jessica

future pather
07-25-2008, 05:16 AM
PS also the way I see the candida situation would be the imbalance of the acidity would have "invited" them. The water you used would have made it no longer hospitable.

I don't think their dye off would acidify.

I have not researched this particular detail but it makes sense to me.


Jessica

Bob Smith
07-27-2008, 07:44 PM
Jessica,
Thanks for your insights. I've got a good water alkalyzer. My wife and I are on the Specific Carbohydrate diet (ie. no grains, no starches, no dairy) as well, with lots of fresh vegetable juicing while things are in season. I'll keep popping that calcium, and will check in again later on in August. Thanks again.
Bob

Mali
08-02-2008, 04:03 AM
A friend of mine who had done a lot of heavy recreational drugs and as a result had extreme gum damage, used CO Q 10. She sqeezed the contents of the gel cap on a tooth brush and brushed her gums with it. She did this two times daily. Her dentist was amazed with the results. He had told her there was nothing that could be done to save her teeth and gums. The gums healed remarkebly well. Love Mark. PATHS | Energize Your Mind ~ Transform Your Life (http://www.paths-home.com/)

henrii
08-02-2008, 11:25 AM
I'm wondering if anyone's found a method for gum tissue regeneration. I've been drinking alkalyzed water for 4 months, and it's done wonders for my health, but my gumline is receding faster than usual. In addition, I am now gluten and dairy free, on the specific carbohydrate diet about 3 months, juicing regularly, but the gumline seems to keep receding.

Any thoughts/suggestions from anyone?
Bobby Smith



Hello Bobby,

Have you read this thread. http://www.energeticforum.com/health-fitness-nutrition/2088-fix-loose-teeth.html

On another forum it's the solution for receding gum line.

P.S. sorry for the grammar, hehe mistyped it:D
Henrii

Bob Smith
08-30-2008, 02:11 PM
Hi Everyone,
Thanks for all your helpful feedback and direction to sources for help. I'm now working with the following protocol:

-Oil pulling with extra virgin olive oil 15-20 min daily in morning
-3 drops of oregano oil on toothbrush, massaged into gums once a day
(let sit 1-2 minutes, swish around, gargle and swallow)
-Co-enzyme Q10 (thanks Mali) massaged into gums after night brush and
floss each day. I found Metagenics has a liquid CoQ10 that is reasonably
priced. I half-fill a teaspoon, wick up with toothbrush and massage into
gums (don't rinse away) and go to bed. Seems to be really helpful.

Some context: I am about 6 months into radically changed diet due to celiac diagnosis. Following Elaine Gotschald's Specific Carbohydrate Diet in her book Breaking the Vicious cycle. More at: Main template (http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/) It has cleared up a number of health problems for me (she claims it cures Krohn's, IBS, alleviates some symptoms of Autism, among other benefits including some forms of mental illness which are directly tied to ingesting grain-based starch).

For related info on grains, also see:
James Braly, Dangerous Grains: Why Gluten Cereal Grains May Be Hazardous To Your Health at Amazon.com: Dangerous Grains: Why Gluten Cereal Grains May Be Hazardous To Your Health: James Braly M.D., Ron Hoggan M.A., Jonathan Wright: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Grains-Gluten-Cereal-Hazardous/dp/1583331298/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220105645&sr=1-1)


Thank you again everyone for your very helpful input.
Have a good long weekend.
Bobby Smith

Damien
09-09-2008, 03:23 PM
Hey guys,

In relation to this topic have a look at the following
Low intensity pulsed ultrasound - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_intensity_pulsed_ultrasound)
looks like teeth can be regrown

Aaron
09-09-2008, 05:18 PM
There are quite a few studies that have been done with stem cell injections, etc... and it regrows back any bone loss and/or gum degeneration. Of course that is a high end way to do it, probably costly and probably won't be a regular treatment anytime soon. But, it was nice to see that biologically, it is absolutely possible regardless of what dental professionals believe because it has been proven over and over.

timh651
03-07-2009, 06:30 PM
I have a suggestion. I don't know if you want to try this but I do know that it works. I have long be interested in cognative enhancement and a while back I had a book called smart drugs & nutrients by M.D. Ward Dean. In this book a number of different drugs are described as well as their possible side effects. One of the drugs mentioned in this book is Dilantin (phenytoin sodium). While you're not interested in cognative enhancement, this drug has a side effect that you might be interested in. This drug is used to control seizures and is suppost to have a number of possible side effects. The only undesirable effect I noticed(for me anyway) was this. I was brushing my teeth on day and I noticed that my gums were growing. This is one of the possible side effect of the drug. I have good teeth and gums so I stopped taking it because of this, But reading your post made me think that if you are haveing problems with a receeding gum line, you could possible take this for a while and make them grow back.

Aaron
03-07-2009, 10:34 PM
That stuff looks pretty heavy duty with a lot of potential side effects...but with the gum growth, if it is known the exact method that the medicine has this effect, something like that can be honed in on - if safe.

jtstatic
03-16-2011, 06:23 PM
I've tried some aloe vera tooth paste recently after hearing good comments about it from a neighbor who is close friend of my wife. Apparently good results have been seen especially with people who have gum problems, aphthous ulcer etc.. Also some people told they even surprised their dentists who thought their mouth was incurable etc. - the usual miracle stories, best taken with a grain of salt :)

This one was made by forever living products. Don't know much about the company, haven't heard of them before.

Will have to see how it goes, I thought it's at least worth trying before going for more extreme methods. Now after a few weeks of use I do think that my gums actually do feel a bit better, but it also might be just placebo. The first few days my gums actually felt quite weird though, almost sore, so I almost stopped using it, but it soon faded away and now they do feel a lot better.. not sure what was causing the effect.

Anyway, I have the whole tube to go, so plenty of time to test. At the moment I'm willing to try anything than regular tooth paste.

Aaron
03-16-2011, 09:22 PM
Gary Young's Forever Living MLM company has good but very overpriced
products.

I knew someone that worked on a lavender farm in Idaho that witnessed
that the lavender had been treated with chemicals, but were labeled as
"organic" by the company. I don't know if it is true. For the most part,
they are known for their oils, which are supposed to be some of the best.

Glenn
03-16-2011, 09:52 PM
My 2 cents, be careful of essential oils. They are harmful to cats and dogs (even the vapors) - not sure what the long term effects on humans may be.

We have been using EcoDent Daily Care toothpaste for years. It is a baking soda formula with no chemicals. We also use a good electric toothbrush. You can also rinse with a few drops of GSE (grapefruit seed extract) to kill bacteria, weaken plaque, strengthen gum tissue, etc. And of course, the PATHS Dental module is an amazing tool for good oral health as well!

alvinflurd
03-16-2011, 10:52 PM
Receding gums refers to acknowledgment in the roots of the teeth acquired by a accident of gum tissue Regeneration of the allowance from the acme of the teeth. Gum Regeneration is similar to ascent and basis burying in that the ambition is the same-gum regrowth.

shawn
03-18-2011, 01:01 AM
An important thing to never do is use any kind of glycerin based tooth paste as it coats the teeth preventing re-enamalizing.
Just brush with simple soap and baking soda or add some of the other items posted above by the others.

Gums,...... I know I had receding gums at one point and I stopped drinking coffee and smoking and the gums eventually grew back.
Perhaps collagen would help
Google "neocell collagen type 1 and 3"
Iherb.com has the best prices I have found yet for that.
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