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    Hello,
    I recently (last week) purchased the Generation II & advanced system & I'm hoping some of the TVR'rs can steer me in the right direction here as I work through it.

    In S1-S3, I seem to be having some real AOL challenges as my accuracy is probably about 10-20% overall. I declare them but they seem to sneak back in.

    Oddly, I pretty much aced the intro exercises but once I set the structures & began following the protocol & tempo (not going slow) my accuracy is low

    Also, should I have a high S1-S3 accuracy prior to proceeding to S4?

    Thanks in advance for any advice

  • #2
    trv techniques

    Hi Ingram,

    Be very proficient at s1-s3 before going to s4. Make sure you can answer all the test questions and that you have pretty good consitency. How many of the first 50 targets in the back of the book did you do so far?

    Don't judge the s1-s3 by the pictures you draw in s3. Not that you are doing it, but one point to note is that the pictures at this point don't have to look anything like the target. It only has to have the general gestalts in it.

    With the aol's, it is more important to continue to just declare every one that you are aware of...more important than trying to have no aol's, which is counterproductive. Again, not saying you're trying not to have any...just a note.

    Kevin and possibly some others can give you some other advice, but this is my take on these things at this point.
    Sincerely,
    Aaron Murakami

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    • #3
      Hi Aaron,
      Thanks for your response!
      I've done the first three training targets from mod 3 but have been doing the targets from the student resources section of the web site.

      I find that I may get a few of the impressions correct but the major gestalts seem to be off which is why I suspect aols. I've probably done 20 - 30 targets in the last five days as i try to allow some time between targets.

      Your feedback is much appreciated

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      • #4
        limit daily targets?

        Hi Ingram,

        You may be doing too many targets daily. The limit is supposed to be 2 sessions a day with a couple hours between each one. Those basic sessions for stage 1 to 3, you could probably do 3 with no problem. You may be partially bi-located on older targets when you do new ones and that may be interfering.
        Sincerely,
        Aaron Murakami

        Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
        Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
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        • #5
          Yeah, I kind of suspected I was doing too many (darn it) so as yet today i've only done one. Interestingly, it happened to be the rodeo picture on your rv thread & I did much better than yesterday.

          I see talking about spirulina supplements in conjunction with paths, is there a particular product you prefer?

          Thanks!

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          • #6
            A few comments...

            First off, congratulations for entering a strange new world-one where you can know anything about anything once you have honed your skill.

            When in the initial learning cycle (6-12 months) you may experience extreme variations in data accuracy. Sometimes you may take 3 steps forward only to be followed by 4 steps back. This is not unusual. The human imagination is seemingly limitless and it takes time for the protocol to become autonomic.

            Aaron is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, do NOT fight AOL's, accept them as a normal part of TRVing. It may seem like AOL's should be frustrating, but it is just as much a part of the process as anything else and should be accepted as such. Always put them in the correct column, just like you would for any data. Always error on the side of caution and put anything that is possibly AOL in the aol column. If it is actual data it will be corroborated after the session and you will be able to see it in the AOL column. (this is known as "matching AOL's)

            Write down EVERY AOL. Drop your pen after every AOL. There have been times when I have had as many as 20 AOL's in a row (sorta like a stream of consciousness thing).

            If you do not write down everything that comes to your mind, AOL or not, then it will just sit there and influence the rest of the session.

            Listening to a LOW frequency binaural beat sound track while TRVing (here are some free ones Energetic Science Ministries™ | Resource Library ) will help quiet the conscious mind (imagination).

            Many times people will think they did NOT hit the target, when in fact they did a very good job of describing it.

            The single most important thing about developing TRV skills is to follow the instructions in the training exactly, with ZERO variations or "improvements"....and then PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE.

            In the beginning, when your sessions are short, 10-15 minutes, you can probably do 4-6 a day with 2 hour breaks in between. However, when they get longer, 30-45 minutes each, then you are pretty much limited to only 2 a day.

            Have Fun!



            Kevin

            PATHS For Healing
            Energetic Science Ministries
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ingram View Post

              I see talking about spirulina supplements in conjunction with paths, is there a particular product you prefer?

              Thanks!
              I like the E3Live Nectar here : E3Live Home Page

              It is actually afa blue green algae, which is recommended by PATHS as well as spirulina, but can be more expensive. I like it because I can just take a couple swigs or mix it in a drink rather than taking so many pills.

              Jessica
              Keep your mind on the aether www.PathsToSucceed.com

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              • #8
                Hi Kevin,
                Thanks very much for the constructive feedback, I've been trying to be very conscientious about learning & adhering to the protocols including aol's. Perhaps I should just make an additional page for all of those (joke)?

                I'm confident that the ups & downs I'm experiencing are common to many trv'rs so I try to practice with a grain of salt

                I tend to eat solid foods (pasta & meats) probably more than I should so I'm also going to modify the diet a bit for clarity as well as introduce additional supplements & I'm going to try the soundtrack with this afternoons session.

                Aaron suggested a PATHS TRV module so I e-mailed them for more information about that. If it can help increase the progress, I certainly want to consider it as I want to make a living TRVing.


                Thanks for the link Jessica

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ingram View Post
                  Hi Kevin,
                  Thanks very much for the constructive feedback, I've been trying to be very conscientious about learning & adhering to the protocols including aol's. Perhaps I should just make an additional page for all of those (joke)?

                  I'm confident that the ups & downs I'm experiencing are common to many trv'rs so I try to practice with a grain of salt

                  I tend to eat solid foods (pasta & meats) probably more than I should so I'm also going to modify the diet a bit for clarity as well as introduce additional supplements & I'm going to try the soundtrack with this afternoons session.

                  Aaron suggested a PATHS TRV module so I e-mailed them for more information about that. If it can help increase the progress, I certainly want to consider it as I want to make a living TRVing.


                  Thanks for the link Jessica
                  Hi Ingram,

                  Our Team of Professional Remote Viewers (see wefindout.com - Remote Viewing Investigators & Psychic Data Collection Detectives ) all started using the Increased Intuition and Insight PATHS Module when it came out. It made a significant and measurable increase in the quantity and quality of the data we get when TRVing.

                  Kevin

                  PATHS For Healing
                  Energetic Science Ministries
                  Meditation at the Click of a Button, Guaranteed!


                  ESM Forum Support Link

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                  • #10
                    Hey there Kevin

                    I got an e-mail back from PATHS pretty quick yesterday when I asked about a trv module.

                    We do not have a TRV Module at this time, but we do have a booster for increasing TRV efficacy.

                    The difference between a booster and a Module is that the boosters
                    have an average of 15-30 instructions compared to the thousands found
                    in the Modules.

                    Boosters are free of charge to anyone who has a paid PATHS Theater.

                    Also, the Intuition Module is a great choice for TRV'ing assistance as
                    well as the Increased Synchronicity Module.

                    Here is some more info on this Module:

                    http://www.energeticforum.com/paths/...re-module.html

                    http://www.energeticforum.com/paths/...-unveiled.html

                    Based on the very positive feedback for PATHS I see here & elsewhere I am very interested in using it, I just have to wait until my are accommodating. Hopefully very soon!

                    Yesterday I used the pink noise from the link you provided and my S3 accuracy was almost spot on. Frankly, in retrospect I think I was inhibiting the S1 & S2's but I kind of let go in the S3 & got very strong gestalt's of the target. Yay!
                    Last edited by Ingram; 05-29-2008, 07:41 PM.

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                    • #11
                      This morning I did some kinesthetic work on the subconscious as related to my TRVing & I guess it took because I just "nailed" my target from S1-S3 & all my aols were very specific to the site. Of course it might have been the spirulina too.

                      Oha-oha


                      ahem, I mean....I'm very pleased.....



                      I hope you guys (and of course ladies) don't mind me talking about this here?
                      Last edited by Ingram; 05-30-2008, 12:32 AM.

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                      • #12
                        technical remote viewing misc.

                        Hi Ingram,

                        I use the E3Live and/or the AFA in the Capsules from the same company. The link is usually in my signature.

                        Besides binaurals to help still the mind as Kevin mentions is the Synchronicity module. It helps one strengthen and develop more focus on the present moment meaning the reasoning/rational mind is yapping away turning data into meaning, worrying about the future or dwelling on the past. That is one of several focuses on that module and there has been a lot of response from people using it saying the mind is not as chatty as before.

                        What was the full name of the pink noise track you used when doing your session? Just curious.
                        Last edited by Aaron; 05-31-2008, 02:00 AM.
                        Sincerely,
                        Aaron Murakami

                        Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                        Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                        RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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                        • #13
                          Good morning Aaron

                          I went to the health food store & got some bulk spirulina and gel caps & have been taking three of those twice a day. The protein in them really fills you up!

                          I'm not sure of the full name of the track but here are the urls.
                          Energetic Science Ministries™ | Resource Library
                          http://www.esmhome.org/library/pink3...and8spikes.mp3

                          The only downside was that was the first time I used it I had it up too loud & in S3 the sound of the site was pink noise!


                          The more I consider it the more I am determined to implement PATHS as $$'s allow.

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                          • #14
                            +1 on Aaron reminding me of the synchronicity module...definite benefit to TRV data.

                            And I forgot all about the TRV booster!

                            You will find as you get hundreds and then thousands of targets under your belt that you will go thru stages...sometimes the the word data (s2, s4, s61/2) will be more descriptive, other times you will see the sketches (s3, s6) being more descriptive.

                            Of course, it is great when they are both dead-on!


                            Kevin

                            PATHS For Healing
                            Energetic Science Ministries
                            Meditation at the Click of a Button, Guaranteed!


                            ESM Forum Support Link

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                            • #15
                              bilocation frequency

                              Hi Ingram,

                              That is a good soundtrack for trving. 6 to 8hz is what the frequencies slowly transition between..basically the theta/alpha state and is perfect for bilocation.
                              Sincerely,
                              Aaron Murakami

                              Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                              Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                              RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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