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Kevin
04-09-2007, 07:23 AM
WOW! It has been 3 years or so ago that Aaron turned me on to the concept of open systems. I had a really hard time grasping all that he was saying.

I kept telling him he had to talk in plain english if he wanted my lil ole brain to understand what he was saying. :)

I finally understood enough to build my own little battery charger. (but not before I TRV'd to find out if what he was claiming was possible!) :D

Not only is it possible, but we got a lot of data about how to improve on what little he had told us (he and Bedini and Linderman already knew most of it, they just had not told us everything :rolleyes: ).

I have a notebook full of test results showing thousands of hours of tests that I ran, charging batteries out of energy "in the air". I know that is not the techno talk for it.

But the bottom line is that I can charge a battery with another battery and have much more in the charged battery than I took out of the source battery! :thumbsup:

I was working on building a full sized unit that would run our entire house without having an electric bill...when I got interrupted with PATHS. Within a year I will return some of my energy to finishing the full sized unit to power our house!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Kevin

linesrg
04-11-2007, 04:41 AM
Kevin,

I think it is safe to say you're the first person I'm aware of who has made the claim to be able to charge one battery from another and get more work out of it than you put in.

Is there a particular secret you feel you can share or even EM me direct on?

Regards

Richard

Aaron
04-11-2007, 07:45 AM
Hi Richard,

There have been a few people in the private 3 initials group that have said they got over 1.0 COP. Doesn't that exactly mean in the Bedini circuits that they got more work out of the output battery than they put into the circuit from the input battery?

I shared the SG stuff with Kevin a few years ago and I believe this is what he is referring to unless he was doing another battery charging system I didn't know about.

However, Kevin did incorporate one concept into the SG charger that was never discussed by John or Peter openly and it is not in any of the Yahoo groups...the exact specific that I am referring to is nowhere to be found online to my knowlege and I only alluded to it briefly in certain groups but nobody paid attention to exactly what I said. He discovered it independently by TRV data, applied it and benefited from it. I learned of the exact method directly by Peter.

Kevin
04-11-2007, 07:54 AM
Richard,

That is sort of surprising to me. I know Aaron has done it, and I am pretty sure he says publicly that he has done it.

I read some of those free energy forums a few years ago, but there was so much jabbering on them, that I quit wasting my time.

I am pretty sure my only sources have been Aaron, Peter Lindeman, Bedini's info and TRV data.

I started with the basic Bedini "schoolgirl" circuit, and made a few changes to it.

I do not think most of the changes I made are secret. I used multiple wires on the coil, I used a different transistor and I reckon that is about it.

To tune it, I use a digital oscilloscope to get the best balance between amps out, voltage in and ideal wave form (which is not really a wave so much as a spike).

I have thousands of hours of testing where I would regularly use about 1 amp input and get 1.9 amps output (work). This became so commonplace that I spent time experimenting with how to squeeze even more out.

I have all the stuff stored away right now, but will get it unboxed in the next few weeks and post some pictures of the unit, and some of the test data.

:)

linesrg
04-11-2007, 11:10 PM
Kevin/ Aaron,

Go on then I'll 'bite' - what is TRV?

Regards

Richard

Pamela Vicik-Smith
04-11-2007, 11:14 PM
Hi Richard -

TRV is technical remote viewing. Kevin has a three-part post on this forum about it. Absolutely fascinating stuff.

I am currently studying for my PATHS certification. I would like to take the TRV course once I am done.

Love and joy,
Pammie

Aaron
04-12-2007, 12:49 AM
Hi Richard,

Part I of trv is here. US govt has used it for years. What is interested is that the trv data showed EXACTLY what Peter told me and even exactly where on the circuit the modification goes.

http://www.energeticforum.com/general-discussion/80-what-technical-remote-viewing-part-i.html

adam ant
08-28-2007, 03:06 AM
i took a short online course on TRV, and the very first time i was almost 100% correct. after that first success though, i have yet to be accurate. i keep letting my AOLs get the better of me. my imagination seems to overpower my ability to utilize my intuition. i even have a really hard time with kinesiology.

Pelagaia
08-28-2007, 05:51 AM
I am particulrly interested in alternate energy producing technology because I live north of the Arctic circle where power is very expensive. Many towns and villages produce electricity exclusively with diesel run turbines. I have bought a mobile home (trailer) and am looking forward to using it as a experimental place for trying out whatever alternate energy sources may be practiucal to use; winters, as you can imagine, are extreme energy-guzzling seasons with weeks of no direct sunlight and months of sub-zero temperatures. Up here, people are craving any heat-producing process that saves money and decreases pollution; it's a good place for something that actually really works to grab the public's interest. I look forward to reviewing the posts here and eventually setting up something that could be a technological breakthrough.
Your advice, suggestions and thoughts will be most welcomed.
Jonathan

future pather
08-28-2007, 12:50 PM
Adam (Bryan),

I don't know a lot about TRV but I have picked up from reading posts here that it is important to wait a certain period of time (I think 2 hours) between TRV sessions or your later ones won't be accurate.

It probably says that in your course, but just in case I thought I'd mention it.


Pegagaia,

Nice to "meet" you here. This is a great place for what you are writing about. We hope you stick around :thumbsup:


-Jessica

adam ant
08-28-2007, 02:03 PM
no, actually they did not mention that.
the course was all tied together, and i did like 4 or 5 back to back.

now that i think about it, that might have been the problem. i had images and preconceived ideas from the first TRV when i was doing the latter ones.
the accuracy dropped lower with each new session.

thank you for the insight, i may go back and try it again, but im going to read Kens thread first before i start.


-b

Pelagaia
08-29-2007, 03:08 AM
Adam Ant:
I have been TRVing consistently for over five years. The instructors said to wait two hours minimum between sessions. They have a saying that "The people who TRV the best are the ones who TRV the most" so for the first three years I really tried to do two sessions a day and usually was able to do so. That discipline may be why I am a reasonably comptetent TRVer today - I don't really know; everyone learns in his or her own way and the two-per-day regime may not be best for you or anyone else. The best thing is to follow exactly what the instructions indicate as you do each session.
Jonathan

adam ant
08-29-2007, 03:33 AM
i will try it again, no doubt, but i need some consistent time for this.
im pretty eager to start building the SG motor, and i have little time as it is.

thank you for your input.


would you let me give you a single blind test???

Kevin
08-29-2007, 04:42 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

"That discipline may be why I am a reasonably comptetent TRVer today"

Jonathan is one of the BEST TRV'ers in the world! We are MOST FORTUNATE to have him participating in the forum here. :notworthy:

:thanks: Jonathan!


:blowout:

Kevin
08-29-2007, 04:55 AM
Jonathan,

Regarding alternate clean energy, there seems to be two paths one can go down right now to get it.

One is the use of hydrogen from water. I am not familiar with that other than the posts here in this forum.

The other is by using a souped up version of the Bedini SG charger. I am very familiar with that.

If you follow the directions for building a multi-coil, multi-circuit SG, you will be able to charge multiple batteries everyday and then use an inverter to convert the 12 volt DC from the batteries to the 120 volt AC that you are probably using in your home.

It is a lot of soldering and probably a hundred plus hours of work, but would be worth it in the long run.

Another item that can probably help up in the Great White North is the NASA technology that you can add to interior or exterior paint.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/906-nasa-technology-our-home-barn.html

We will be painting our home and barn within the next 30 days with this and be reporting on the efficacy of these little ceramic microspheres!

:thumbsup:

theremart
07-20-2008, 02:02 AM
Richard,

That is sort of surprising to me. I know Aaron has done it, and I am pretty sure he says publicly that he has done it.

I read some of those free energy forums a few years ago, but there was so much jabbering on them, that I quit wasting my time.

I am pretty sure my only sources have been Aaron, Peter Lindeman, Bedini's info and TRV data.

I started with the basic Bedini "schoolgirl" circuit, and made a few changes to it.

I do not think most of the changes I made are secret. I used multiple wires on the coil, I used a different transistor and I reckon that is about it.

To tune it, I use a digital oscilloscope to get the best balance between amps out, voltage in and ideal wave form (which is not really a wave so much as a spike).

I have thousands of hours of testing where I would regularly use about 1 amp input and get 1.9 amps output (work). This became so commonplace that I spent time experimenting with how to squeeze even more out.

I have all the stuff stored away right now, but will get it unboxed in the next few weeks and post some pictures of the unit, and some of the test data.

:)



Hi Kevin,

I am shooting to learn all that you have done to acheive the results you have obtained.

Which transistor are you using now ( you stated you changed something )?

When you say 1.9 (work) out are you saying the measured Joules of energy?

This would also include your using an earth battery?


Thanks.

dynamite
07-20-2008, 02:49 AM
TRV is an interesting concept to me, i have done courses in cold reading that things like that (mentalist magic) so this makes me a little skeptical when i see it on TV.

the TRV methods your using, lets you get a feeling of whats going on at present time, or at any time.

if it's at any time, could one of you skilled TRV-ers see if you can get stan meyers original schematic?

lol

Vulcan
07-20-2008, 03:46 PM
whoa whoa whoa, So you know how to put in 1 amp and get back 1.9 amp? Can you explain in detail how you do this please because I'm pretty sure this would help a lot of people on this board.

Kevin
07-23-2008, 09:58 PM
TRV is an interesting concept to me, i have done courses in cold reading that things like that (mentalist magic) so this makes me a little skeptical when i see it on TV.

the TRV methods your using, lets you get a feeling of whats going on at present time, or at any time.

if it's at any time, could one of you skilled TRV-ers see if you can get stan meyers original schematic?

lol

Here are a couple of posts on TRV as I (and many others) practice it.

http://www.energeticforum.com/psychic-paranormal/80-what-technical-remote-viewing-part-i.html

http://www.energeticforum.com/psychic-paranormal/120-what-technical-remote-viewing-part-ii.html

Yes, we could either TRV the current location of Meyers original schematic, or the relevant principles outlined in his schematic. No one has ever employed us to do so, and each of us is pretty backed up with personal things we want to TRV when not doing TRV work for others. (visit wefindout.com - Remote Viewing Investigators & Psychic Data Collection Detectives (http://www.wefindout.com) )

:peaceflag:

Kevin
07-23-2008, 10:17 PM
whoa whoa whoa, So you know how to put in 1 amp and get back 1.9 amp? Can you explain in detail how you do this please because I'm pretty sure this would help a lot of people on this board.

I believe I have outlined in detail exactly how I built my SG. It is buried in one of the threads here.

Rather than go looking for it, I will recount, to the best of my ability, the relevant factors. (it has been over 2 years since I have done any work with my SG).

I followed the instructions for the Bedini SG as outlined by him. I did not/still do not have any significant understanding of the principles involved, nor did I think I knew better, or take any "short cuts" or make any "improvements". I followed the instructions to the T.

After getting the basic unit operating I then went about experimenting with modifications that were discovered by TRV data.

The TRV data was always run by either John Bedini, Peter or Aaron BEFORE implementing it. Only ONE modification at a time was implemented, then tested, before trying the next modification.

Here is a list of modifications that I remember (Aaron may remember more)

1. 2 circuits sharing the same trigger wire on one coil.
2. Magnets glued and taped to each other before attaching to wheel
3. Earth battery wire
4. Different transistor (I believe it was a MJ2194)

I cannot think of anything else I did differently than all the original Bedini instructions (which Aaron helped me understand).

Some (or all) of this is old news now, but back in 2004 & 2005 this info was not published.

At the time I did read about a lot of people building the SG and having problems...almost everyone I read about were NOT following the basic instructions. I had an advantage...since I knew nothing, I had to follow the instructions. When I did, it worked.

That is not to say that I did not spend hundreds (probably thousands) of hours fine tuning and experimenting (AFTER I GOT IT RUNNING per the basic instructions), because I did.

Hope that helps, and if I forgot any other mods, please chime in Aaron.

:peaceflag:

Aaron
07-24-2008, 01:50 AM
Hi Kevin,

The transistors were mjl21194.

Any trv data I got, I would go out and chat with John and Peter...during that time, Peter was working at John's daily.

One synchronicity was that when Kevin and I were figuring out the opposing magnet configuration was that John was starting to do the same thing but his magnet pairs were 90 degrees to what Kevin had on his rotor.

Also, the trv data showed an earth connection in some curious configuration...so I went out and talked to Peter about it...or at least the concept and it was almost identical to what he was describing to me. But with no big surprise, Peter and John already knew about the concepts. I was already aware of the earth ground connection on John's school girl schematics because he has shown them since the beginning of the school girl release. But this one the data showed was not the same and indicated a unidirectional movement of "energy", which I believe was figured to mean a diode to keep in in one direction.

Now the magnet configuration was different from John's...the N were both facing each other on each magnet set but the N opposing fields were squished out to trigger the coil on John's setup and on Kevin's the S faces were pointing down so 2 squish fields from 2 different magnets sets squished out to trigger the coil...and it ran like that.

Kevin conditioned his batteries and did consistent charge/discharge cycles more than anyone else I knew including myself and almost as much as it seems that John did. This seemed to go on for months. Everytime Kevin and I talked on the phone...with me pacing around the floor of my health food store...the motor was either running and charging the batts or he was discharging the batts....non-stop. That is one of the primary keys that most people aren't willing to do in order to see over 1.0 cop gains in the output batts.

How much of the effect came from the earth rod or from the magnet configuration? I don't know but with is charging/discharging, magnet configuration and earth rod setup...over 1.0 cop was a breeze.

theremart
07-24-2008, 02:37 AM
For that additional input.

I did recall the two norths facing one another. I tried that but did not have as good results as the standard double stacked magnets. I do recall this because i SUPERGLUDE the magnets together to get them to stay in this position, and it took a chizel to get them apart :)

The configuration of the coils sounds like a multi coil configuration. hard for me to visualize that...

I have been at the conditioning process for months, but as I have been looking I have not been doing deep conditioning, and there were breaks of time. I am now focusing on one set of batteries that I intend to do 16 times of discharging to the low point, and then charging to the max again.

It has been much easier for me to charge the semi batteries as to the golf cart batteries, which have much thicker plates.

The problem I see with my auto battery swapper is that it does not focus the charge on a single battery. With the larger set of batteries, I need a much more focused charge for the conditioning process.

So... one by one 16 X I will see if this gets me anywhere.

Aaron
07-24-2008, 04:26 AM
Mart, you wouldn't have to chisel the magnets apart...you can simply rotate them 90 degrees to have John's method. The "standard" double stacked magnets are still with the north faces touching each other. At least if you're using the "scalar" norths to trigger the coil.

ashtweth
07-24-2008, 03:16 PM
Gee thanks allot guys another document i need to write up for the forum:rofl: :eek: :D