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Old 06-29-2009, 08:41 AM
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Human urine is a Excellent Fertilizer !

During the NBC Nightly News on October 16, 1992, Tom Brokaw reported that, "In Egypt, rescue workers found a 37-year old man alive in earthquake rubble. He survived almost 82 hours by drinking his own urine. His wife, daughter and mother would not and they died"

What’s in urine?
Urine, 95% of which is water, 2.5% of which is urea, and 2.5% of which is a mixture of minerals, salts, hormones, and enzymes, is not a toxic waste product. Urine is a blood byproduct and though it contains some body waste, it is non-toxic. In 1975, Dr. A.H. Free, published his book Urinalysis in Clinical Laboratory Practice, in which he presents a few critical nutrients found in urine:

Alanine, total ..... 38 mg/day
Arginine, total ..... 32 mg/day
Ascorbic acid ..... 30 mg/day
Allantoin ..... 12 mg/day
Amino acids, total ..... 2.1 g/day
Bicarbonate ..... 140 mg/day
Biotin ..... 35 mg/day
Calcium ..... 23 mg/day
Creatinine ..... 1.4 mg/day
Cystine ..... 120 mg/day
Dopamine ..... 0.40 mg/day
Epinephrine ..... 0.01 mg/day
Folic acid ..... 4 mg/day
Glucose ..... 100 mg/day
Glutamic acid ..... 308 mg/day
Glycine ..... 455 mg/day
Inositol ..... 14 mg/day
Iodine ..... 0.25 mg/day
Iron ..... 0.5 mg/day
Lysine, total ..... 56 mg/day
Magnesium ..... 100 mg/day
Manganese ..... 0.5 mg/day
Methionine, total ..... 10 mg/day
Nitrogen, total ..... 15 g/day
Ornithine ..... 10 mg/day
Pantothenic acid ..... 3 mg/day
Phenylalanine ..... 21 mg/day
Phosphorus, organic .....9 mg/day
Potassium ..... 2.5 mg/day
Proteins, total ..... 5 mg/day
Riboflavin ..... 0.9 mg/day
Tryptophan, total ..... 28 mg/day
Tyrosine, total ..... 50 mg/day
Urea ..... 24.5 mg/day
Vitamin B6 ..... 100 mg/day
Vitamin B12 ..... 0.03 mg/day
Zinc ..... 1.4 mg/day
(Your Own Perfect Medicine? - Natural Health and Longevity Resource Center)
The following are the average quantities of various substances, in 100 milliliters of urine as reported in Introduction to Biochemistry by Dr. Pharon:
Substance Milligrams
1] Urea nitrogen 682.00
2] Urea 1459.00
3] Creatinin nitrogen 36.00
4] Creatinin 97.20
5] Uric acid nitrogen 12.30
6] Uric acid 36.90
7] Amino nitrogen 9.70
8] Ammonia nitrogen 57.00
9] Sodium 212.00
10] Potassium 137.00
11] Calcium 19.50
12] Magnesium 11.30
13] Chloride 314.00
14] Total sulphate 91.00
15] Inorganic sulphate 83.00
16] Inorganic phosphate 127.00
17] N/10 acid 27.80
Some other important urine constituents are:
Enzymes:
Amylase (diastase).
Lactic dehydrogenate (L. D. H.).
Leucine amino-peptidase (L. A. P.).
Urokinase.
Hormones�
Catechol amines.
Hydroxy-steroids.
17-Catosteroids.
Erythropoietine.
Adenylate cyclase.
Prostaglandin's.
Sex hormones.
HPS Urine Therapy UT Programs

Human urine is rich in plant nutrient. It contains higher Nitrogen, Phosphorus, and Potassium than animal urine. ...
It can be concluded that the compost with urine gave better quality fertilizer, and gave more complete composting activity, shorten composting time, and higher compost temperatures.
(ref: Composting With Human Urine ; Plant Fertilizer)

Human Urine is EXCELLENT PLANT FOOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(as long as the urine does not contain pharmaceutical agents and antibiotics)

allAfrica.com: Uganda: Human Urine Safe As Fertilizer (Page 1 of 2)
"It (urine) also repels pests such as Aphids which damage vegetable leaves. ... Under normal circumstances, an adult person releases 11 grams of nitrogen/urea, 1gram of phosphorus/super phosphate, 2.5 grams of pottasium in urine. ... Patrick Makhosi, also a soil scientist with Kawanda Agricultural Research Organisation confirms the efficacy of human urine as a fertiliser. He says that applying urine once every week for at least two months will more than double the yield of vegetables. ...
The urine should be diluted with water at a ratio of 1: 9 and applied to the plant, ..."


Urine contains most of the nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium we release.These nutrients are the major components of chemical fertilizers, and urine is an amazing plant fertilizer! It is typically sterile, and, if separated from feces, can be easily and safely reused. Urine collection can be as simple as peeing in a jar or installing a urinal or urine-diverting dry or composting toilet. Although female urinals haven't caught on yet, there are some designs and models available.
Urine is easy to purify -- all you have to do is wait. Urine leaves the body fairly acidic and then the pH increases rapidly until pathogens are unable to survive. This process takes from fifteen days in warmer Mexico to over three months in the chilly Scandinavian winter.
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Urine or Urea - yes, human urine is an excellent source of organic nitrogen for compost teas or as a free nitrogen activator for composting (45% N), can be used to create biogas which requires nitrogen .

Tworque: Waterless Urinals
Greenline » Waterless Urinals - How do they work?


Holy Smokes, I have to try this one:
Here is one for every one in the south who battles fire ants. It might sound crazy and disgusting but it really works. It's organic and it's free. Human urine. "Collected" indoors and poured on the mounds, they disappear within 24 hours. I didn't believe it when I first heard it, but tried it and it works. Supposedly the humun hormones both male and female does something to the ants.

And as they say: "Ah, Piss on it!"

Stop wasting that piss!

Besides being a excellent thing to do for your plants,
saving your piss could save your life some day, if your really thirsty.

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Yes, it works. My father in law is always tell me how dark green the branch of his dragon fruit plant is because he always watering it with a bucket of urine. He frequently told my son to piss at the flower at home too. I don't know if I should allow my kid or not though, because my wife would definitely pissed off, lol.

Still, my wife dragon fruit plant has color almost as dark as my father in law plant lately. It begining to become darker when I start adding copper tube to my watering hose just like I post in my thread.

I guess combining both thing is the ultimate, but I don't want my home smells like public toilet lol.
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:44 AM
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My lemon tree was doormat after being transplanted and showed little to NO growth over two years.

After one dose of urine and within one week it was covered in new shoots. Ive never tasted such good lemons
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:27 AM
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urine and biochar

There are a lot of tests going on around the world with urine and biochar... plastic urinals filled with biochar, etc...

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Old 07-07-2009, 05:21 AM
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Just get the word from my father in law that the best tobacco from kraksan probolinggo (one of the best of Indonesian tobacco) use collected cow's urine.
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A lady cured her self of 3 cancers and was in the paper here in Queensland.
She used urine ...

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Old 06-27-2010, 11:14 PM
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Last summer I had a couple spots where I could put a tomato plant or pepper plant. I had lots of trees to contend with. But I would pee on the soil at the base of a couple tomato plants where no one could see me. And I would save it in a jug then go out and pour it in the soil too. And them tomato's grew between six and seven feet tall. They could of been bigger but I didn't give em enough support early enough.

I'll definately be peeing on my soil in my garden this year when no one is around to see. And I've been peeing on the soil of the fruit trees so far this year.



That's interesting to hear about the urine and cancer. I've read a little bit about urine therapy. But not very much on it.

I can say though that I would definately not hesitate to drink my urine if I was in a situation where I couldn't get water.


Another thing that urine works awesome for is activating compost. I used to just pee into a gallon jug then I would take it to the compost pile and pour it on. It keeps the compost nice and hot.

I've also thought that if I were to design a house I would have a urinal that would go to a collection tank so that I could use it in the soil and compost. Urine definately works.
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Smile Eco-sanitation

Hi,

There is a place called 'Auroville' in the city of Pudhucheery, India where Eco-sanitation is being done to produce bio-gas from human excreta. It insists on maximum possible re-use of nutrients from excreta - Ecological Sanitation.

The Hardware Technology needs to be developed better in India for better application of eco-sanitation.
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excellent info have you seen the thread regarding urine electrolisys to hydrogen
and hho with P etc. as byproducts?
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I pee'd, bio-chared, michorised and rock dusted my garden to success last year and plan to do the same this year.


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Moe, dam that looks healthy, thanks for the updates.

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I pee'd, bio-chared, michorised and rock dusted my garden to success last year and plan to do the same this year.
Looks AWESOME!

I've only done 3 of those 4 but loved the results.
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I pee'd, bio-chared, michorised and rock dusted my garden to success last year and plan to do the same this year.
Moe,

All your missing now is sea salt.

The following is copyed from post 37 of the Soil Remineralization thread (Soil Remineralization):


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I just came accross the following article and thought about this thread.

The news article:

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Watering Tomato Plants With Diluted Seawater Boosts Levels Of Antioxidants

ScienceDaily (Apr. 29, 2008) — Watering tomatoes with diluted seawater can boost their content of disease-fighting antioxidants and may lead to healthier salads, appetizers, and other tomato-based foods, scientists in Italy report.

Besides their use in a variety of ethnic food dishes, tomatoes are one of the most commonly grown home garden vegetables, particularly cherry tomatoes. Scientists have linked tomatoes to several health benefits, including protection against prostate cancer and heart disease. Researchers have known for years that seawater does not stimulate the growth of tomatoes, but scientists know little about its effects on the nutritional content of the vegetables.

In the new study, Riccardo Izzo and colleagues grew cherry tomatoes in both freshwater and in a dilute solution of 12 percent seawater. They found that ripe tomatoes grown in the salty water showed higher levels of vitamin C, vitamin E, dihydrolipoic acid, and chlorogenic acid. All of these substances are antioxidants that appear to fight heart disease, cancer, aging, and other conditions. Using saltwater to irrigate tomato crops also appears to be a promising alternative to freshwater irrigation, especially in the wake of water shortages in some parts of the world, the researchers note.

The article "Irrigation with Diluted Seawater Improves the Nutritional Value of Cherry Tomatoes" is scheduled for the May 14 issue of ACS' Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry
Source: Watering Tomato Plants With Diluted Seawater Boosts Levels Of Antioxidants


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The aim of this study was to assess whether the nutritional value of cherry tomato can be improved by irrigating plants with diluted seawater (12%; EC = 10 mS/cm in comparison with a control at EC = 4 mS/cm). Berries of cherry tomato cv. Naomi were analyzed at the red-ripe stage for the contents of NADPH and NADP+ as well as for the amounts of the main antioxidants, such as ascorbic acid, lipoic acid, tocopherols, and phenolic acids. As compared to the controls, the fruits of salt-treated plants showed a higher titratable acidity and a higher concentration of reducing sugars. The fruits picked from tomato plants irrigated with diluted seawater produced berries characterized by a higher nutritional value. Following salinity, berries showed higher amounts of vitamin C, vitamin E, dihydrolipoic acid, and chlorogenic acid. It was hypothesized that protocatechuic, vanillic, caffeic, and ferulic acids were utilized to counteract the damaging effects of salinity-induced oxidative stress, allowing tomato fruits to maintain a high reduced status even following salinization.
Source: Irrigation with Diluted Seawater Improves the Nutritional Value of Cherry Tomatoes - Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry (ACS Publications)
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Moe,

All your missing now is sea salt.

The following is copyed from post 37 of the Soil Remineralization thread (Soil Remineralization):
The sea salt has the minerals in it because of the rock dust that
goes to the ocean by way of the glaciation process. You can do either
the rock dust or the sea salt (SeaAgri Inc. - SEA-90: Soil, Crop and Livestock Nutrients from the Sea) but it is
not necessary to do both.

The rock dust is cheaper than Sea Agri for example. For rock dust,
1 ton per acre is good for 1-1.5 years or so. Has been found that 10
tons of rock dust per acre will mineralize the soil for 10-15 years.
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The sea salt has the minerals in it because of the rock dust that
goes to the ocean by way of the glaciation process. You can do either
the rock dust or the sea salt (SeaAgri Inc. - SEA-90: Soil, Crop and Livestock Nutrients from the Sea) but it is
not necessary to do both.

The rock dust is cheaper than Sea Agri for example. For rock dust,
1 ton per acre is good for 1-1.5 years or so. Has been found that 10
tons of rock dust per acre will mineralize the soil for 10-15 years.
I'm not discounting its use, the issue I have with rock dust is in terms of mineral content, where would one get “rock dust” which contains as many elements as sea salt?

Unless I'm missing something, wouldn't you need to mix different types of rock dust (dust from rocks made up of different elements) in order to get something approaching the variety of elements in sea salt. So that the end result is food that is the best it can be for those who consume it. Unlike the so called stuff that is passed off as food, where it is lacking in every way shape and form.

Then again I may just be over thinking it.
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I'm not discounting its use, the issue I have with rock dust is in terms of mineral content, where would one get “rock dust” which contains as many elements as sea salt?

Unless I'm missing something, wouldn't you need to mix different types of rock dust (dust from rocks made up of different elements) in order to get something approaching the variety of elements in sea salt. So that the end result is food that is the best it can be for those who consume it. Unlike the so called stuff that is passed off as food, where it is lacking in every way shape and form.

Then again I may just be over thinking it.
Rock dust isn't one specific rock or generic mineral blend, it can be
but that is not what is recommended. Enough rocks to get a full spectrum
blend of all the minerals and trace minerals is what is recommended.

Sea salt gets the full spectrum blend of minerals by the glaciers grinding
down on multiple types of rocks over many years and that "glacial milk"
makes its ways down to the rivers and out to the oceans.

Rock dust can be had by going to various gravel pits and getting the dust
at a certain mesh size from various types of rock sources so that there is
a full spectrum.

Basalt is a very full spectrum blend and is one of the most recommended.

Anyway, http://remineralize.org/ this group is one of the most
authoritative on the subject. Don Weaver worked with Hamaker who was
very instrumental in bringing rock dust remineralization to the awareness
of much of the farming community.

In my garden, I actually used both rock dust and Sea Agri salt additive,
just to play around but it wasn't necessary.

You can see the history of rockdust here, check out my first post with
references if you're interested - the sea mineral connection was known
for a long time too - places that flooded with sea water - the farmers
thought it would kill the growth then they had "bumper crops" the
following years:
The Survival of Civilization by John Hamaker & Donald Weaver
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I read a very interesting news that a woman from China used to save her urine for plants.( SunFusion Solar). Urine contains metabolic wastes and high proportion of nitrogen. It is a ready source of nitrogen for plants.
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Recovery of P and N in Urine

If you're wanting to eliminate the ammonia from urine or just recover P and N then read this research. Laboratory studies on recovery of N and P from hum... [Environ Technol. 2004] - PubMed result

They say to just add a small amount of MgO and Zeolite to recover almost all the P and N in urine.

I've read that it's good to let the urine go to ammonia to kill possible pathogens, then drop out the ammonia with zeolite. But, some say this also makes the urine less effective as a fertilizer. If you're just going for P & N recovery then I don't think it matters much.

I've had good success with ph swinging salt water with lye water and using the washed precipitate as a fertilizer. Some call this Ormus, I just see it as dropping the minerals out of salt water.

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Pee, properly known as urine, a fraction isolated and filtered from the bloodstream by the kidneys, is a good and useful thing. What did the Bible say? The life of the body is in the blood.( or something like that ) In that case, pee, properly known as urine, ought to be pretty lively stuff.

Its the fact that they use it for those darn drug tests that bothers me.
How did we reach a point where drug tests can make or break a persons life and future. Big Brother... he seems to be into everything!
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I have been using human urine for several years now. Running it through a charcoal filter or just granulated charcoal, will eliminate most of the smell. It does make vegetables grow larger and faster and it seems to help make them more tolearant of disease. Ammonia has long been added to other ingredients to make fertilizer, but urine contains many more nutrients than just ammonia. All are beneficial to plants. Good Luck. stealth
If ur peeing on the char, mabe u should concider tossing THAT on the veggies. Just a thought. Char soaking up the minerals? I've peed on a lot of char to condition it and just let er loose on the garden. Ammon evaps, no biggie, pee away .
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A lady cured her self of 3 cancers and was in the paper here in Queensland.
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She used urine what drank it?
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she drank her urine

I heard of a guy who cured himself of cancer doing homebrew chemotherapy by drinking goats urine. He was told by a very unorthodox doc that hemlock would cure his cancer. The problem is/was hemlock will kill the patient before it kills the cancer. This was how Socrates killed himself. But goats can eat anything.
So he fed the hemlock to the goat and drank the goats urine and it got rid of the cancer.
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