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Aether Force Exposing Aether Force and their fraud against the work of Eric Dollard. Techzombie of Aether Force was born Rayam Azab Youssef, changed his name to Ray Savant then changed his name to Mohamed Youssef. This is to address his fraudulent allegations.

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Old 07-21-2013, 08:22 AM
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All the donators should have receipts, and in my opinion they should be asking
for their money back until a properly organized accounting structure is
implemented. Depending on what premise they donated on they may have legal
recourse to claim a reinbursement of their donations, Especially if
misappropriation of funds is occurring somewhere.

As far as Sterling goes I don't like the way he spends crowd funding, and he is
like the pot calling the kettle sooty (political correctness) but the article
touches on some valid points even if all names were left out and the specific
situation involved other characters.

I think if forgetting all the specific characters there needs to be proper accounting of any publicly funded organisation.

Are the donations tax free or deductible ? If tax needs to be paid is it being paid.

All the equipment under the sun is no use if there is no stable environment to use it.

Even though I may have some issues with Eric i am a compassionate human
being, I know what it is like to suffer, mentally and physically and financially.
It would be great to see Eric in his own Lab where he has all the say.

But who would risk his wrath to try to work for him or with him ?

I have a similar problem trying to find people to help me do farm work, people
don't use common sense and break stuff, it happens to me all the time, If I
feel there is no hope for them I tell them to go away and do it all myself, even when
putting up kilometers of fencing. Can't be avoided, good help is hard to find.
And if you want a job done right then do it yourself.

In my time I've had to learn how to take people to court and represent myself.
I've had to learn many things so that I can do it myself. I build my own
buildings and just about everything else. I can't even trust people to mow the
yard properly and do other things without committing machine abuse.

Mostly it pays not to allow others to use my machines because of it. A lot of
people are almost useless at most things, but they are still people with
feelings and rights. If people want to be useless it is entirely their right, just
let them go, sack them. Who is the boss.

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Old 07-21-2013, 07:35 PM
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Wow the **** has really hit the fan around here hasn't it but i shouldn't be surprised this all ways happens when money is involed- The Love of money is the Root of all Evil

lets put all this crap behind us and get back to what this forum is really about Sharing Ideas
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Ray Savant - Tech Zombie - Pro Adolf Hitler

Look at what Ray posted about keychests.com where he had Eric's book:


Now look at this video exposing the fact that Ray Savant is the one who actually owns keychests.com not his 'friend' like he posted. He is covering his tracks because he was pushing tons of pro Adolf Hitler material on that site - here's proof:

Ray Savant - Tech Zombie - Pro Adolf Hitler Racist - YouTube

He is now scrambling to do private registration for his sites to hide this but it is ALREADY in google cache, etc...
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:12 AM
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Exclamation Edward Mitchel - H20Power - Exposed!

Ray Savant has Edward Mitchel's statement against me claiming I'm suppressing his work in his video claiming that I'm manipulating Eric with Meth.

Edward Mitchel is h20power or h2opower and is self-proclaimed Stan Meyer master who replicated his work. If any of you remember a few years back during a lot of talks in the ionization thread, it was Edward Mitchel that denounced that Meyer ever had anything to do with nitrogen. He continued to attack myself, MJN, Tutanka, etc... as being idiots because we did not agree with him and it got nasty.

Edward Mitchel wound up threatening my life so I posted a satellite image of his work to show where he lived and was about to contact the FBI in Arlington, Texas because of this. That is why he was banned in the end.

He is a disinformation agent and is making lies that I banned him to suppress his work. He was living in a fantasy world and we heard right here in the forum that he is arrogant, won't listen to anyone and thinks he knows everything about Meyer.

Since he wants to bear false witness against me, and like a fool, he does so publicly via Ray Savant's video, I posted this to expose him, his false claims about Meyer, etc... to show he has no credibility in anything he says and there are many witnesses here that remember this issue with him before he was banned.

Edward Mitchel - Disinformation Agent Exposed - H20power H2opower - YouTube

It is boring in the technical details, but I'm establishing the facts that show that this "Meyer Expert" actually never read any of the Meyer documents that I review.

Jerry Vollard, you're next.
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I have been following aetherforce for a while now and this situation has made me decide to register here. I believed that it was Eric Dollard behind the aetherforce website. But it turns out EPD lab is a completely separate organization?

After seeing Eric actually has posts here yet nothing really proving Eric's affiliation with aetherforce I really am starting to wonder. With this in mind and re watching some of the videos posted on that site it really does almost seem like Eric is unaware he is being recorded!
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I have been following aetherforce for a while now and this situation has made me decide to register here. I believed that it was Eric Dollard behind the aetherforce website. But it turns out EPD lab is a completely separate organization?

After seeing Eric actually has posts here yet nothing really proving Eric's affiliation with aetherforce I really am starting to wonder. With this in mind and re watching some of the videos posted on that site it really does almost seem like Eric is unaware he is being recorded!
Thank you, I will clarify.

If you go here:
https://www.facebook.com/TheAetherForce

Look at the banner, it says Eric Dollard.

What does it say under that?

"AetherForce, Science and Engineering of the Aether. WE have NOTHING TO DO WITH Eric Dollard and accept NO DONATIONS"

Ray Savant registered Ericdollard.com without his permission. Eric demanded Ray go to meet him. All Eric wanted Ray to do was film him in the bush to raise some money. That was the ONLY thing Eric wanted Ray to do. Everything else, Ray invited himself into Eric's life.

Ray then forwarded Ericdollard.com to aetherforce.com, which is composed of Ray Savant, David Webster, John Polakowski and David Wittekind as far as I know.

It was supposed to include Eric Dollard and aetherforce did do a lot of good for Eric. That is true. However, there were internal conflicts and Eric absolutely did NOT want Ray involved with anything and wanted him out, COMPLETELY.

To make a long story short, aetherforce was representing Eric in a way that Eric did not like, he did not appreciate and in many ways he was represented, Eric was never even notified of. Many things were done without Eric's knowledge or consent.

There is a lot more than that, but that is the gist.

The Eric Dollard thread here is the only place online that Eric personally posts when he can get in front of a computer. He drafts out what he wants to post and someone else types it in. He doesn't want to go anywhere else, and Ray Savant and others from Aetherforce made many demands of him to stop posting here so that they could have exclusive control over everything Eric does, but Eric wasn't having any of that.

Every single thing that Ray Savant (Tech Zombie) is accusing me of, he is the one that is actually guilty of doing himself.

You should hear Eric's interview I did with him over the phone.

And Ray Savant's response was to create a video claiming that I hooked Eric on meth in order to brainwash him and put him against Ray and the others. None of that is true - not even close.
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I have been following aetherforce for a while now and this situation has made me decide to register here. I believed that it was Eric Dollard behind the aetherforce website. But it turns out EPD lab is a completely separate organization?

After seeing Eric actually has posts here yet nothing really proving Eric's affiliation with aetherforce I really am starting to wonder. With this in mind and re watching some of the videos posted on that site it really does almost seem like Eric is unaware he is being recorded!
*We have a situation where exist four separate entities, (where Eric Paul Dollard is / has been a common factor.

#1, T-rex, Mr Wizard, The Coyote (Eric Paul Dollard).
#2, EPD Labs (David Wittekind, Dave Webster, Eric Dollard, plus unknown others?).
#3, Energetic Forum (Aaron) – Postings by T-rex, (Eric Dollard via David Webster).
#4, Aether Force website / Facebook. (Ray Savant – Aka Techzombie).

First it must be understood that Eric does not like digital technology / modern society etc. I believe he borrows the screens of computers to read the forum and the like but he doesn’t run or operate websites at all. As far as I know he doesn’t have any responsibility for what is put on the Aether force, nor is it him who posts on Facebook. Someone has been doing either it on his behalf, or not even on his behalf, just doing it anyway. – Readers of Aether force (up till now) have assumed any Eric Dollard material has had Eric’s permission to be there. Along with anything else either posted on Aether force or Facebook it has been assumed that it has had Eric’s “blessing” particularly if it is posted under his name. The real situation is unclear. (I believe he (Ray) originally had permission to post the early videos related to the Indiegogo campaign, but it all got out of control and now Eric disapproves of it).

As I understand it, Ray runs /ran the Aether Force website, the Facebook page and he also started the Indiegogo campaign.

EPD Labs – Has no official website of its own or an online presence that I know of (as yet). (Although Aether force had some connection with it). Most of its information is kept secret. The only thing that is known is that David Wittekind bought the building / lab & essentially owns it. As far as I knew David Wittekind is the President, David Webster is the Secretary and Eric Dollard is the Treasurer. Other executive persons are unknown or unconfirmed. The current status of EPD Labs and the executive persons of EPD Labs at this time still remain unclear.

The Energetic forum (moderated / co-founded by Aaron) was / is an outlet for Eric Dollards writings (T-rex) through / via David Webster primarily. These writings have been posted for the last two years approximately.

*Note: what I have written here is my understanding of the situation which I believe to be correct, however I am not directly involved with any of this so I may be wrong on some accounts.

**Aaron has answered you above, (better than I) before I could post this. I’ve typed this it out now so I’ll post it anyway.

Sputins.
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EPD Labs – Has no official website of its own or an online presence that I know of (as yet). (Although Aether force had some connection with it). Most of its information is kept secret. The only thing that is known is that David Wittekind bought the building / lab & essentially owns it. As far as I knew David Wittekind is the President, David Webster is the Secretary and Eric Dollard is the Treasurer.

Other executive persons are unknown or unconfirmed. The current status of EPD Labs and the executive persons of EPD Labs at this time still remain unclear.

The Energetic forum (moderated / co-founded by Aaron) was / is an outlet for Eric Dollards writings (T-rex) through / via David Webster primarily. These writings have been posted for the last two years approximately.
Thank you Sputins,

Wittekind does have a lab site, but I think it should be kept discreet for now. Nothing really on it, but not appropriate to promote it yet. And it is actually dedicated to the lab with no connection to aetherforce that I could find.

Wittekind is the president, Webster is actually registered as the treasurer and it is Eric who is actually the secretary.
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If you click this link:

keychests.com - Whois Data

You will see Google's cache of keychests.com, which had Eric's book on it.

Is there anyone here willing to click that link and post what email the account was registered at? And make note of the date that google cache capture happened on?

I've done it, but I'm just hoping others are willing to state exactly what the records show. Ray Savant is trying to cover it up and he already changed the email.
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Domain Name: KEYCHESTS.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: eNom - domain name, web site hosting, email, registration
Name Server: NS1.LEETSTRADINGCO.COM
Name Server: NS2.LEETSTRADINGCO.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 04-nov-2012
Creation Date: 04-nov-2012
Expiration Date: 04-nov-2013

Domain name: keychests.com

Registrant Contact:
Leets Trading Co
Leets Trading Co ()

Fax:
po box 824
ny, NY 10108
US

Administrative Contact:
Leets Trading Co
Leets Trading Co (techzombie432@gmail.com)
+1.6467091297
Fax: +1.5555555555
po box 824
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Status: Locked

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ns2.leetstradingco.com

Creation date: 05 Nov 2012 01:47:00
Expiration date: 04 Nov 2013 17:47:00


Note also techzombie432@gmail.com - Email Data provides the following:

The list below contains all domains related to the email address techzombie432@gmail.com. The list is made of domains using the above email address on their website or in their whois record. We also link domains to email addresses by using our internal algorithm.

The email techzombie432@gmail.com is related to these domains :
1. aether1.com
2. aether1.net
3. aetheracademy.com
4. aetherforce.com
5. aetherone.com
6. aetherone.net
7. ericdollard.com
8. etherforce.com
9. healthlevelup.com
10. vidyousee.com
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Thanks Mahakal, I hadn't run across some of those other domains.

Ray also owns jinnWE: The Revolution Begins

jinnwe.com - Whois Data

He already changed the registrant info but you can see it is still on the leetstradingco.com server, which is Ray's.



And,

whois funhi.com
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Minor update -

Supposedly Ray Savant put the money from the Lone Pine Writings book into the EPD Lab fund. That looks good, but it goes completely against what Eric Dollard wants.

Eric wanted that money to go to Webster - wanted him to get some of it if not all of it. And he doesn't want Ray to do anything with it - you already know that. Just another example of them doing what they want regardless of what Eric asks.

Just like Webster forcing Eric to give him half of the money put into Eric's hands at the end of the conference so it could go to the lab.

Getting money for the lab is fine, but it has to be done with integrity. And Eric has a right to have money that is his own.
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:08 AM
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Exclamation Ray Savant - Tech Zombie - Jew Basher

Ray Savant put his Keychests.com site back up:
https://www.keychests.com/?c=159

Look at this - SHOWING THE PRO HITLER BOOKS in Google cache:
Banned Books of Truth by wad

EDIT: THE GOOGLE CACHE HAS UPDATED TO HIS NEWER PAGE WHERE HE HID THE HITLER BOOKS, ETC... BUT IT WAS ALL RECORDED BY VIDEO AND SCREENSHOTS AND IS PERMANENTLY RECORDED IN OTHER CACHE'S.

And of course the Google cache of Ray Savant (techzombie) registration of keychests.com.
keychests.com - Whois History 2012-11-08

He must have an ulcer by now having his coverups filmed in live streaming time. There is a lot more that will be revealed soon. Ray Savant is an amateur at damage control and he has no idea what he is leaving in plain site and he is not going to be able to remember what it is! I guarantee you!

“If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.” Mark Twain


You can compare the very first two links and see that he conveniently removed Hitler's book and a few others.

He claims I had lawyers take his site down, but really, he was making his registration private and taking the site down to cover up what I was saying. And, he still leaves quite a few books that are considered extremely Anti-Semetic.

Ray Savant claims to be 100% Semetic and both parents are Semites. Well, a friend who is more like a brother to me that happens to be Palestinian came to my house because I had to find out what the deal is.

He said if Ray is Egyptian, most likely he is not a Semite. And he said it doesn't matter. For Ray to claim he is Semetic as a defense that offering Anti-Semetic books would be crazy, is NOT a defense. Palestinians are Semites too. So, Ray pushing the Anti-Semetic material makes sense since he hates Jews because the book are against Jewish Semites and not Arab Semites. He said there are plenty of Arab Semites who are completely anti-Jewish Semites.

Why is this even being discussed here? Because in the video that Ray made making it look like Eric hates Jews and you hear Ray say "ok, enough of the Jew Bashing", Ray is actually editing it creatively to cut his own self out of the picture as the one that kept bringing it up with Eric.

When Eric said Ray is an admirer of Hitler, that is for real. It has been established that Ray (Techzombie432) is the real owner of Keychests and not some friend as he claims. It DOES have a folder with Anti-Semetic books - and many are STILL there as you can see, but if you compared the two links above, he deleted Hitler's one, the Protocols book, etc...

Those are being shown to be posted by an avatar named WAD, but that is actually Ray himself and Wad is from the jinnwe.com site, which by no surprise is owned by Ray Savant.

And like I said, Eric's material is on this keychests site being intermingled with Pro-Hitler books or at books promoted by Hitler and the Nazis like the protocols book.

1. Book titled "Second Book" authored by Adolf Hitler himself.


2. The Secret Relationships between Blacks and Jews - "The Anti-Defamation League criticized the Nation of Islam and the book." The book has been labeled an Antisemitic canard by historians including Saul S. Friedman, who contends that Jews had a minimal role in New World slave trade. Henry Louis Gates, Jr., head of the dept of Afro-American studies at Harvard University, called the book " the Bible of new anti-Semitism"



3. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is an antisemitic hoax purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. Adolf Hitler and the Nazis publicized it like a valid document, although it already been exposed as fraudulent. After the Nazi Party came to power in 1933, it ordered the text to be studied in German classrooms.

4. Eustace Mullins Book - "Eustace Clarence Mullins, Jr. (March 9, 1923 – February 2, 2010 was a populist American political writer, biographer, and antisemite."


I posted that in youtube when Sterling Allen claimed none of the books are anti-Semetic. Well, I have 100% irrefutable proof that not only are/were those books on Ray's site, but some that are still there are still considered by scholars to be very Anti-Semetic.


I'm not taking sides with anything and I'm not about hate on either side - I don't support any of it.



What Eric said about Ray being Pro-Adolf Hitler is not true just because Eric said it, I did the research and posted it here for the world to see. Ray Savant has been promoting Pro-Adolf Hitler material and other Anti-Semetic material on his own websites and got caught doing it! Look at that second link to Google cache - he has Hitler's book, the protocols book, etc... that are all conveniently missing from the live site now.



And even if he is an Arab Semite, that is irrelevant because as the facts stand, there are Arab Semites that dislike Jewish Semites and there are Jewish Semites that dislike Arab Semites. Therefore, Ray Savant's defense that he is a Semite and therefore "I'm off my rocker", is nothing but fairy dust for fools.



For the record, we can see what an objective peacemaker and 5-star reporter Sterling Allen from Peswiki is. I caught him trying to remove his post that reveals both his ignorance on the matter and his choice to side with Ray Savant and work to cover up the facts about what the books actually are. WHY??????????????????????????????????????????????? ????

I thought you were for the TRUTH and wanted to support this field. Instead, you are drawn to the workings of the walking dead and you have the audacity to mention God in your emails.

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I have all posts recorded.

I know you disclaimed yourself.

What is your current comment about your statement in Ray's video? Please state this publicly.
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"This message has been deleted by garrettm4."

GarrettM, why did you delete your post that was attacking me?

I have copies.

My question to you right now is...

Do you or do you not support the video from Ray and your testimonial in it? Please comment.
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I don't support my quotes being used in the manner they are. My thoughts were clarified in my second post which got no mention in the video. I have requested they be taken down only to be told they are on a public forum which is besides the point, a little thing called mutual respect and moral would at least have me approached before my full name and quoted material is posted in such form. This whole thing could have been dealt with differently by just about everyone involved, myself included.

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Aaron I will say this quite clearly, I do not like you. Furthermore, I absolutely do not approve of the way you handled the various situations surrounding Eric P Dollard. Likewise, the same sentiment applies to Ray with regards to the "video" he recently made available.

Despite your smarmy claims, David Webster and John P. are very upstanding people, why you deemed it fit to repeatedly dirty their names is beyond me. Ray on the other hand shouldn't have been assaulted as you have done, a discrete "intervention" (say hangover 3) was all that was needed. Mud slinging is all I see here, and you are the King of the mud fight, with Ray coming in second. To be honest, I don't think Ray would have posted the "Eric is a Meth-Head" video had you not have insulted him so deeply. Why make people angry? It only serves to blind them into doing things that they wouldn't normally do and which they will then find regrettable. Do you find any of your actions regrettable? I hope so. I know I do, but that's what being an adult is: admitting to faults and then try to correct them.

Out of respect to Eric, and only to Eric, I thought I would clean this thread up, and remove my comments which were hot headed and severed to do no good. That said, I do stand by my initial comment that you indeed were trying to instigate trouble, which we can all see was correct.

I find it bizarre that you need to personally state that you have saved my posts. Why keep such petty things? Why even bring that up as if it were relevant? My distaste for you only grows. Do what you will with them, as apparently you have given yourself ownership of something I find to be of absolute uselessness.

In the future, I do hope you learn to control your aggressive behavior, as look where it has gotten Eric: nearly lab-less, called a meth-head, nearly destroyed all his interpersonal relationships, a declining reputation and mud smeared all over everything.

To not be contradictory myself, I plan to do the same and control my temper and stay out of fights in which I don't belong, which certainly has done no good in any of this. To all who care about Eric, lets just drop the issue and let the people behind the scenes solve their own problems. I'm done with this internet soap opera. Days of Our Lives featuring Eric P Dollard and Friends.
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Aaron I will say this quite clearly, I do not like you. Furthermore, I absolutely do not approve of the way you handled the various situations surrounding Eric P Dollard. Likewise, the same sentiment applies to Ray with regards to the "video" he recently made available.

Despite your smarmy claims, David Webster and John P. are very upstanding people, why you deemed it fit to repeatedly dirty their names is beyond me. Ray on the other hand shouldn't have been assaulted as you have done, a discrete "intervention" (say hangover 3) was all that was needed. Mud slinging is all I see here, and you are the King of the mud fight, with Ray coming in second. To be honest, I don't think Ray would have posted the "Eric is a Meth-Head" video had you not have insulted him so deeply. Why make people angry? It only serves to blind them into doing things that they wouldn't normally do and which they will then find regrettable. Do you find any of your action regrettable? I hope so. I know I do, but that's what being an adult is: admitting to faults and then try to correct them.

Out of respect to Eric, and only to Eric, I thought I would clean this thread up, and remove my comments which were hot headed and severed to do no good. That said, I do stand by initial comment that you indeed were trying to instigate trouble, which we can all see was correct.

I find it bizarre that you need to personally state that you have saved my posts. Why keep such petty things? Why even bring that up as if it were relevant? My distaste for you only grows. Do what you will with them, as apparently you have given yourself ownership of something I find to be of absolute uselessness.

In the future, I do hope you learn to control your aggressive behavior, as look where it has gotten Eric: nearly lab-less, called a meth-head, nearly destroyed all his interpersonal relationships, a declining reputation and mud smeared all over everything.

To not be contradictory myself, I plan to do the same and control my temper and stay out of fights in which I don't belong, which certainly has done no good in any of this. To all who care about Eric, lets just drop the issue and let the people behind the scenes solve their own problems. I'm done with this internet soap opera. Days of Our Lives featuring Eric P Dollard and Friends.
You made a claim against me without knowing the facts and that is worth saving. If you make a claim against someone, you had better be able to prove it.

If you have the slightest bit of common sense, which you have shown to not have, you would understand why this was brought public.

Every avenue was exhausted to deal with this in private.

Get this through your thick skull...

They were trying to commandeer Eric's organization as a fact. Eric wanted his friend on the board of directors, someone who would actually be doing most of the work. Their response? Trying to get Ray on the board so that Eric will continue to have a minority vote since Eric doesn't have enough people on his side to ever get his vote approved for what he wants. That is the game they were playing with Eric. Ray refused to back off so Eric decided it was time to go public. I said I would back him up as I saw from Ray's attack to me in email was all that I needed to see that Eric really is being strong armed in a way that leaves Eric without any real say-so in his own organization.

And what has it gotten Eric? Ray will not be on the board of directors. If you're too feeble-minded with your degenerate mentality to see that this will wash out where everyone will see that Ray Savant is a liar and he concocted everything and it is all going in Eric's favor now, then you are a truly hopeless cause.

There is not one person who choose to stand by Eric's side that was willing to come forward in his defense against Ray - not even Webster and Polakowski.

You have NO idea who is good or bad because you haven't seen the facts. I will reveal another fact about Webster because I caught him in a lie and it will be pointed out. You are delusional and have been drinking too much kool-aid.

I actually defended Webster many times believing it was just out of a misunderstanding, he means well, etc... then I saw him outright lie about something and that was the end of it.
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Old 07-24-2013, 01:18 AM
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Dollard has spoken.

Seriously guys regardless of the propaganda and regardless of the he said she said we all CLEARLY heard Dollard's own words saying he wants nothing to do with TechZ and wants TechZ to have nothing to do with EPD labs and that is that.


Also Aaron has said that he plans to help out Dollard as long as he can but has other interests of his own to deal with as well.

The only question I have are 1. Will there be another website where Dollard's materials/research/updates can be found LEGALLY (but honestly when you think about it most of the posts at aetherforce.com had nothing to do with Eric's actual work and only used him to go viral anyway :P ) and 2. Is that is even a good idea considering he really doesn't want anymore attention from the MIB.
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Aaron is a raving lunatic. You're an obvious toady. Please stop posting in response to my posts. I only like to converse with intelligent people. Thank you very much.

You're only proving Eric Dollard's point -- and I quote "The people in the Energetic Forum are useless pieces of sh---." That's a direct quote from Dollard Himself and one you are doing a very good job of verifying.

Have a nice life.
Sir, Please show some respect, why don't you? After all, Aaron is hosting this forum. We wouldn't be able to have this conversation if it weren't for him.

As for what Mr. Dollard said, that quote could have been taken out of context. Would you provide a link to a video of him making that statement?
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@Danielpoet, you are a hypocrite to the fullest.

YOU replied to my first post with "who asked you"...Was I not allowed to have an opinion?

YOU label me a "toady" for Aaron, and continue ranting about Aaron labeling you a "plant" for Tech.Z

YOU call Aaron irrational for replying with insults, yet all of your replies to me contained insults. You call me unintelligent because I dont agree with you.

THEN you actually post this:
"You should realize how unflattering your own posts are to your character given the way Aaron rants, threatens, bans, and carries on."

Does none of that apply to you?
Ironic indeed...Pot meet kettle.
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:04 PM
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Tech Zombie Fraud

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Would you provide a link to a video of him making that statement?

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Sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL7yMKVtNE4

The quote is at 9:33 of the video. [/quote]

Daniel and all who care to know.

At 9:33, Eric is complaining because there are people here he doesn't get along with. You obviously don't know anything about Eric. He snaps and bites at virtually EVERYTHING. That is why he is known as a human coyote! And at the SAME time, his favorite people that are understanding and working on this stuff are also right here in this same forum.

Also, how can I video Eric when he is over 1000 miles away? If you heard the interview where he denounces Tech Zombie, it is on a conference call recording - so what am I doing - sending him digital meth over the phone line while forcing him to say those things with telekinetic power?

Right before 9:33, he says good things about this forum because it really did change his life. All the donations gathered for him over the last few years made a huge difference for him. All that was before Techzombie Ray Savant ever did anything. And over those years, I repeatedly promoted Eric's work and his thread in my newsletters that go out to 10's of thousands of people all over the world. That drives traffic to his thread and he winds up getting donations from that.

Eric didn't appreciate Ray and the others demanding him to stop posting here. Ray wanted to be in exclusive control over Eric's material and that is why Ray is acting this way. Eric gave Ray the finger because he is sick and tired of having Ray in the picture. It is really a very simple concept.

My intention from the beginning is very simple - Eric is a guest speaker and I will publish that presentation to raise money for him him personally (not for the lab - that is what Ray and them were supposed to be doing - raising their own money). Then Webster makes Eric give up half of the donations to him to pay rent on the building. That's unacceptable. Ray will blame it on Eric coming to the conference, but that is bogus. They have plenty of film, etc... they can use for a campaign but there they are with David at the conference making Eric fork over money to pay rent when Eric was promised from the beginning that all that would be covered.

And, despite Webster's hand in that operation, I was still up here with Eric going through my friend's warehouses helping Eric get tons of Glom. Literally, there might be several thousand pounds of equipment worth many thousands of dollars. We already had Eric's "glom meister" ready to drive up here but when some of the guys tried to pull the "we're putting Ray on the board" trip, Eric wasn't having it and we decided to hold off on the equipment move until after Ray was out and the lab was settled to Eric's satisfaction.

I've done nothing but support Eric not just personally, but also the lab. I promoted their Indegogo campaign, scored tons of glom for the lab, etc... and this is how they stab not just me in the back but also Eric. Notice they say they haven't seen Eric on meth (in the Eric Dollard thread - Polakowski and Wittekind), yet they won't openly denounce Ray's video as being a bunch of BS. They gave a lawyer answer. I think they're scared to say anything and their skin isn't thick enough to put up with Ray's potential attacks if they say something. They see what Ray painted me and Eric out to be. lol They'd be popping a valium every time a dog barked.

I can take all this crap they want to throw - I'd be wealthy if I had a dollar for each time I was accused of being the men in black or an information suppressor, had a death threat, etc... The reason it always works out in my favor is simple - I tell the truth EXACTLY as it is so I never have to worry about being clumsy or having to cover something up. Especially, in this digital age where everything is recorded in multiple places. It is very hard to lie and get away with it when pulling this crap online in front of so many people.

And what Ray is doing is actually building an upside Pyramid where he is on the bottom. The more people he brings into the lie to harass me, etc... will simply get to the point that it will smash him like a pancake.

Liars always think they have enough fingers to plug the leaks but soon, the leaks accelerate and he is out of fingers. He drowns.

Eric and I both win 100% no matter what. The whole deal is rigged in our favor.

Why? Because he just got a bunch of people to buy into his crap who are threatening me and when they find out that Ray misled them, he will be the star victim in his own self-created zombie movie trapped in a corner where they will be screaming for his brains. He is rapidly manifesting a real life nightmare for himself and he has himself convinced that he can keep up the illusion indefinitely. It will never go away and it will haunt him for the rest of his life.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:06 PM
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Eric Dollard Speaks

1-(218) 844-3182 pin code 92918065

I don't believe you need the # sign after the pin code.

Eric discusses this Ray Savant suppression claims.

That was recorded live with Eric and I on a conference call system a little while ago. It takes about 2-3 minutes for it to get started (will be silent for a few) so be patient.

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Old 07-24-2013, 09:23 PM
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Eric Dollard Speaks

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Please spread this so that it goes viral all over the net.
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:45 PM
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Eric Dollard debunks Techzombie's Supression Myth

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Does it cost anything to listen to the recording?
Just a long distance charge for 218 area code. If you have free long distance on cell phone, then it is free.
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:57 PM
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Eric Dollard Debunks Techzombie Supression Hoax

Eric Dollard Debunks Techzombie's Suppression Hoax - YouTube

Youtube version.
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:31 PM
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:58 AM
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Eric Dollard

Here is Eric Dollard with me.

Eric Dollard Video Interview - YouTube

Does any of this video match the claims against both Eric and I? He is cool as a cucumber. Look at him. Completely chill and composed. You can't see my beer because it is down by my feet so I'll share that one with Eric. lol

Notice this is after the conference and I'm speaking highly of David Webster and John Polakowski and I even promote the aetherforce website. AND, this interview was about 4 days AFTER I received the emails with the accusations.

Anyway, please share and like that video! We can't let these psychos get away with painting Eric like they did. What a big man Ray Savant is to attack a United States Veteran with a disability.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:39 AM
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This is ridiculous.

TechZombie's video is nothing more than a bunch of highly edited clips taken out of context. It also contains a couple of spelling errors and shows his lack of both editing skill and apparent care for the english language. He claims to have stayed up three days straight to make it. Wonder how he managed to avoid sleep for that long...

If truth were his objective, then he'd post the full video clips to provide context for the quotes.

Seems pretty obvious that Eric's side of the story is supported by the events of the recent past, while Techz's story has shifted and altered as Eric's opinion of him became known.
Also seems pretty obvious that he was taking advantage of the fact that Eric is not chained to a computer like most of us.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:10 AM
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I saw this post on another forum:

"I’m judging is Aaron Murakami. He started it, and he brought this whole mess into the public. And his statements are some of the most vile and nasty things I’ve read on the internet."

Had a look around and here and that seems pretty true. Aaron Murakami seems to have a lot of hate for a lot of people. Going about it nasty ways, too. Just my 2 cents.

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