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Old 07-28-2009, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Naboo View Post
I actually agree Vortex, I say actually because this is my drawing

But yeah I have began to understand the problem, and air can fix it perfectly!
It will then look much like Heron's Pump, which I think already gives us free energy.
With a two-cylinder setup where water will fall in down in one, in such a way as to build up air-pressure in the second, which then pushes on the surface of the water, this could have worked. Again it will then be something very close in operation of the Heron Pump.

But, still with the old design, I've heard that wood is actually possible to use as the piston material, and then it could be fitted with rubber around the its outer surface. I guess the tube inside a flattened bicycle wheel could worked as the rubber. But then if that could work, I think that the biggest problem still is the cylinders or containers. However, if we used air pressure and water without any pistons, meaning less work and less expense, then we could have afforded combining several cylinders together forming a larger surface. Seems it could be possible..
Bye for now,
Julian
Take a 1,2 or 3 liter, cut the bottom off. Attach a hose to the cap. Screw the cap on. Push bottle into bucket of water. Presto! Air Piston/cylinder.
No fitting piston to cylinder. No rubber seals. That's about as easy as it
can get. Of course this makes the over all design much more complex.
Everything is give/take. You gain some here.. you probably lose some there.

I will be thinking of how to make use these SODA Bottle air piston/cylinder.
This is idle for what I'm looking to do. Pump water.
The pumped air is in a closed system. None coming in and none going out.

A float provides all the power I need to move the piston/cylinders.
As I said, this makes the design more complex .. but relatively cheap and easy construction is what I think is obtained.
Most importantly, something that is doable.

Naboo, this (what I'm trying to do) IS using gravity, just indirectly.
Gravity does cause upward movement TOO .

Oh, just a few holes in the bottom of the bottle, no need to cut the bottom off.

Last edited by Vortex : 07-28-2009 at 08:03 PM.
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