View Single Post
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 03-16-2009, 08:36 PM
Vortex Vortex is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 899
Quote:
Originally Posted by ANTIQUER View Post
Hi Vortex;

As I understand it, this is the form to get out from under their thumb.

The points stated make the case pretty clear.
Please correct me if I or it are wrong.

Al
NO absolutely NOT NO
ANTIQUER, read 14th Amendment explained

The document you linked to has a DISCLAIMER:
"If the work is yours please email me and we can work something out.
I want to give the author the credit they deserve or remove the piece.
"
The document is written by an Unknown Author with an unknown history.

ANTIQUER said: " points stated make the case pretty clear"
Ok, clear to you as a non legalese expert ?, that's how we the non-legalese
language users keep getting suckered. "points seemed pretty clear."
That's the game, to make you think you know what is going on.
legalese : the specialized language of the legal profession

Business done in the legal play ground has to be done using only legalese.
Their rules, their game, their playing field and you MUST use their words.
Do you really want thier play in that game?

I didn't read the document, I didn't have to read it to know it is wrong.
I will try to explain why.

Would you send that document or any other such document to the
manager of Walmart? Of course not, he/she has no authority over you
unless you work there at that Walmart.
No authority, no action, no document.

If the manager of Walmart walks up to you and tells you to mop the floor
what are you going to do if you don't work there?
It's obvious the manager has mistaken you as a citizen, I meant employee.
Exactly, same difference.
He thinks you signed up voluntarily, filled out the employee contract.
No big problem really and you instruct him otherwise, the manager assumed
and was mistaken.

You don't seek out the manager of Walmart and tell he/she "I'm not going to
follow any orders you might give me." That's crazy, right?
Well that manager is going think you are crazy and you could end up in deep trouble, might you?

If you sent the manager of Walmart a NOTICE saying
"Hey, I'm going on vacation for the rest of my life, keep my health benefits paid up ok?"
Do you not think the manage of Walmart would get the impression you are
a citizen, I meant employee, of Walmart? The manager would instruct another
employee to fire you (put you in jail).

The authority believes they have authority like the mistaken manager of Walmart.
Same difference.
But you don't go hunting them down and getting in their face and tell them listen to me...

I thought I could do this, I can't.
Listen to the audio archives ..
It isn't easy. You have unlearn or forget things you have been told.
You probably will not get it the first time.
You have to put in a lot of time. You have to learn how to listen.
Think about how long it took to be programmed.
It's not a course, there isn't a 1,2,3.
Live interactive 09:00 PM EDT Monday-Friday

Understanding comes with time, some of what the UCC folk teach is of value
for understanding whys, but NOT the hows.
A lot is like walking on razor blades.

Randy
I strongly suggest you watch this
video to get a feel of what this legalese IS.
Theft By Deception - Deciphering The Federal Income Tax
Reply With Quote