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Old 12-31-2014, 05:22 AM
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clearing up some discrepancies...

Referring to the five stages elaborated in post #18...


I was mistaken. Not all five parts to this system will be in resonance. In fact, it can't be. At least not exactly. At best, maybe in harmonic resonance. Because the iron of the fourth stage will tend to slow down the frequency which it receives generated by the first two stages, #1 and #2, transferred to it by stage #3.

This means that stage #3, the output terminal of a Tesla coil, has to be split up into two non-identical harmonically resonant shapes: one remains on top of stages #1 and #2 - the Tesla coil transmitter - while the other is strung out on a wire long enough to take it out of the magnetic field of stages #1 and #2 so that the magnetic field of stages #4 and #5 do not interact with #1 and #2. Stage #3 has to be adjacent, or cuddled up, along side both stage #2 and stage #4 to receive from stage #2 and be able to transfer its static field to stage #4. So, a longish wire could be employed to separate the transmitter from its receiver?

As you can see, this configuration creates problems involving non-resonance and inefficiency, so...

Why not shield the perimeter of a Tesla coil with a (magnetizable, non-permanent magnet) {iron?} magnetic shielding? This shield would be a stage #4 wireless pickup reception from stage #3. Surround the shield with a copper coil, stage #5, fed to a load; and possibly line the inner surface of this stage #4 shielding with an electrostatic pickup identical to the stage #3 (aluminum?) material sitting on top of the Tesla coil transmitter.

Conceptualizations of the design described above...
  1. The appearance of this arrangement makes it look as though this idea is a modification of Tesla's wireless transmission of power in which the gap between the broadcast of stage pairs #1/#2 and the reception of stage pairs #4/#5 is the transmission from stage #3 to stage #4.
  2. The image on the left is a Tesla coil with extra output terminals on top to completely fill up the length of the interior of stage #4. When stage #4 is placed around these multi-output terminals and charged up (depicted by the image in the center), it could then be removed (right-most image) because it may now be functioning as a load up to whatever limit the charged condition of stage #4 can accommodate without "stalling" the load. The PMH condition of stage #4 should never stall itself, in theory, despite the possibility of stage #5 stalling if the load exceeds the stored capacity of stage #4.
  3. But if it is expected that the load will frequently - or always - stall (as in the circumstance of driving an electric motor under heavy torque demand, such as: a submarine), then stages #1, #2 & #3 might always have to be charging up stages #4 & #5? This may explain the apparent discrepancy between William Lyne's story that Tesla's Special Generator powering the German Electro-U Boats of WWII were continually run with compressed air driving a reciprocating shaft in an electromagnetic field (which vibrated no more than 1/16"; and the compressed air was stored in liquified air tanks), while the story of my electrician friend was that his co-worker's TSG was no bigger than the dimensions of a spiral bound notebook powering a medium sized motor (which may not have been under any torque-limiting load?). So, I suspect that his friend's TSG was already fully charged to power a load up to a limit without the test condition stalling the idling load. Hence, his friend kept his demonstration tailored to accommodate the predetermined limitation of his particular device.
  4. The difference to Tesla's wireless analogy breaks down, because stage #4 slows down the frequency put out by the broadcast station of stages #1 and #2 which is OK since a Tesla coil is running at an impractical frequency, as it is, for a home appliance to power off of. The massive iron of what would have constituted the braking magnet in a watt-hour meter is "braking" the frequency received, plus soaks up the excess power not immediately used (if it's large enough) not unlike that of a capacitor except that this is an electromagnetic storage.
  5. The power stored in stages #4/#5 could be bled off to supply a load, or else stages #4/#5 could directly serve as a bank of electromagnet stators driving a motor since they'll already be iron-core wound coils. All that is needed is to add some more electromagnets, or permanent magnets, onto a rotor.


Last edited by Vinyasi; 01-01-2015 at 04:27 PM. Reason: correction for stage #3 and its gap with stage #4
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