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Old 12-29-2014, 02:53 PM
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What about Sir Humphry Davy? Water as catalyst conbining nitrogen with hydrogen.

Originally Posted by tutanka View Post
For ammonia production you need hydrogen and nitrogen. Old method Haber-Bosch use high pressure and high temperature. The only way for another method of ammonia production from water is use an catalyst (or two) and an NEW method for water dissociation. Stan Meyer with the latest fuel injector patent was near to understand the process but don't have sense use the air
as electron absorber like an catalyst.. air isn't an catalyst!! And in fact I can't se at today an car working with the Stan Meyer technology. My vision is that in the near future we can use water molecules in an loop mode device for the energy creation similarry to Lyne furnace for production of electricity and heat at the same time.
What's wrong with the old method of referring to Sir Humphry Davy?

Yes, air in its natural state can not be a catalyst for this process to occur. But water can be.

“Nascent Hydrogen. The doctrine of the nascent state has been developed, for the most part, in terms of hydrogen. Davy noticed in 1807 that electrolytic hydrogen will combine with nitrogen in the presence of water, while ordinary hydrogen will not.”

What about Sir Humphry Davy? Is he not relevant to this discussion? Is not his claim that water is a catalyst for the formation of nitrogen hydride type compounds relevant to this discussion? Is not the nascent hydrogen which he refers to the same as the mono-atomic hydrogen resulting from the splitting of water? Is not the use of water equivalent to positively ionizing hydrogen separately from the positive ionization of air before combining them both?

In other words, "in the presence of water" means that water is catalyzing the reaction of nitrogen with hydrogen. Is water doing something other than ionization to catalyze this reaction?

How does water catalyze the combination of electrolytic hydrogen with nitrogen? Aren't we the least bit curious? What is chemically, and electrically, happening?

Because if we can duplicate this using other methods to achieve the same goal, such as using high voltage positive ionization of separate inlet streams of hydrogen and air, then we've secured ourselves an additional option to proceed with.
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