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Old 07-21-2014, 06:06 AM
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Use for there 3BGS

Let me begin by stating that all of the following is supposition, conjecture and bulldoodie. But what if it isn’t?

One of the VERY FIRST things I talked about with the 3BGS is that you have to balance the loads between the load on the motor and the load on battery 3. When you do, you get the extended run times that everyone wants. In my very first post I even explained HOW to balance the loads, but of course very few folks pay much attention to that. If they had, here is what they would have discovered with just a tiny bit of research on their own. If you get the loads to balance, you will get a certain run time per amp hour on your batteries. SOMETIMES, when you double the load on the motor and get it into balance with the load on battery 3 (or double the load on battery 3 and get the load on the motor into balance… and doubling one does NOT mean you automatically double the other) you will get the EXACT SAME run time per amp hour measurement on your battery even though you have doubled the load. Triple the load, get it into balance, and SOMETIMES you get EXACTLY THE SAME run time per amp hour on your batteries. Luther and I have always said that we aren’t putting ENOUGH of a load on the system to really understand what it is capable of doing for us.

Suppose you have a DC motor Let’s take a Razor Scooter motor as an example. To it you attach an “energizer” device consisting of some coils and some rotors with magnets that when turned will produce some electricity. To this you attach a flywheel, so that once it is up to speed, it will continue at about the same speed as long as you remember to pulse that Razor Scooter motor.

Suppose this “energizer” or generator produced 120 volts per coil at one amp (under load), or 1440 watts of (resistive only loads) electrical output. The construction specs of this energizer are not something I came up with by the way. The design is not mine to share, but is something I replicated and then spent a lot of time and money working with different sized coils, different sizes and lengths of wire, different numbers of strands. But the relationship of how the coils and rotors and magnets all work together is not my design.

Suppose the razor scooter motor ran on 12 volts at 7 amps once it reached its run speed of 1800 rpm’s. That would be an input of 84 watts to the motor to turn the generator. But for fun, lets round it up to 10 amps at 12 volts for 120 watts consumed. But the generator puts out 1440. Already, it would seem, the generator is putting out more than it takes to run. Even if each coil only put out .5 amps it would be WAY more. Even if the coil put out .25 amps.

Issues
1. The motor speeds up when you run a resistive load, but slows down when you attach an inductive load.

2. The motor requires a controller so you can charge batteries during the “off” time of the motor with output from the generator or the battery will run down

3. The motor needs an assist to get up to the 1800rpm run speed. You have the magnetic lock of 16 coils to the cores plus the weight of the flywheel to overcome, and it draws enough amps to smoke the wiring on the motor. I have done THAT a couple times.

4. Because you can only run resistive loads you must deposit the generated power into batteries or capacitors before it can be taken out to do real work


Now let us suppose that we use the pulse motor designed by Matt Jones or the aysemetric motor designed by UFO. Either one would probably need much higher voltage than 12 volts to have the power to keep the gen running, but lets assume for a moment that the thing would run with one of them at some higher voltage

Run the motor in the 3BGS setup as “the” motor. But you need to balance it to get long run times, so what do you do? You put a second motor on battery 3 as the “load” on battery 3. Then you add whatever loads you need to get the system balanced.

What do we use that second motor for that is running for “FREE” as the load on battery Three???? (As long as the two loads are balanced) We use it to power a second generator that is putting out 120 volts per coil at just over one amp. And what do we do with the energy produced by the second generator?? We use SOME OF IT to make sure ALL batteries are always charged up. Would pulsing the first motor or USING a pulse motor automatically pulse the second motor??? I have wondered about this. There probably isn't enough juice in battery 3 to run the motor, so it would only run because we have a complete circuit that connects it with the other two batteries. If we are breaking that circuit by pulsing the first motor or using a pulse motor, won't that pulse the second motor also? I think it will, but haven't gotten that far.

We might even be able to connect inductive loads to the second generator. Why is it different that the FIRST generator?????

Connecting an inductive load to the second generator bogs down the second motor which is attached to battery 3. This causes motor number one to SPEED UP and put out MORE power. Of course that puts things "out of balance" and we have to solve THAT problem again.

Could this work? Like I said, all conjecture, supposition and bulldoodie. Until it’s not.

I have built the first generator and have been testing it off and on for several months. Those test runs have resulted in several design changes and modifications to make the thing stronger and run more smoothly. They have also allowed me to move the rotors closer to the coil cores which should increase output. Higher speed would do that too, but the machine has been designed to run at 1800 rpm because that is where I get an output of 120-130 volts, which is what I wanted.

This is not a toy. A lot of time and money has gone into this, and a lot of research. If everything works out, we will probably share some stuff here sometime in the future. And you needn't worry that I will vanish into the woodwork like many others have, because there are several folks, some who have posted on this forum, who have all the details of the construction of this generator and have seen videos of it in operation.

Before you begin to cry like a baby because I'm not sharing, There are only four parts to this setup, and John Bedini talked about what the parts are in his "Free Energy" book.

DC motor
Energizer (magnets/coils/rotors)
Flywheel
Pulse control circuit so you can recharge battery while motor is in "off" position.

I built it and then I messed around with it. And I am not the only one to get it to work. Someone else here on the forum sent me a video of his working before I built mine. I just had lots of ideas for a bigger model with lots of changes. I would suggest a two coil model to start. When you see that you can get out more power with two coils than you put in, THEN spend the time and money to build a bigger unit. Plus, the pulse motor Matt designed will run a two coil model at lower voltages, so you can see all the principles in action.

Dave
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Last edited by Turion; 07-21-2014 at 05:10 PM.