Hi aladinlamp,

I think the best way to describe the situation is that there are now none known that are off the shelf ready to be done with Peter's method. That being said the first ones that have been shown are the custom made soleniod one at Bedini's shop, and the DC motor that had it's stator coils removed and stator cut with the preferred shape had to have work done on them to get them to work, and even then they were not up to the same standard of a Bob Teal motor. They did demonstrate that there is sound reason to believe that Bob Teal was really on to something.

I posted the other motors, but they are merely suggestions, not guarantees... of them working. I can understand where Peter is coming from in not endorsing these motors, they come some were in the ballpark for Teals design, but they are not as good as a custom motor with the geometry correctly designed for this application.

To this end, one can take an off the shelf DC motor and customize it, but will be hard pressed to get a COP >1.

Jetijs is doing the hard way, making it from scratch. Yet this way has the most promise as it is as close to the best design structure of the Teal motor. Yet when you go where others have not been you have to struggle with unseen problems of the art. Balancing, parts, EXACT specs, and working with materials to learn their breaking point can bring one close to ones own breaking point ... But this is an art, and I believe Jetijs is learning this art. The first motor is a bear to make, but the next ones will come much easier once the master pattern has been forged.

I myself, want to start small and maybee work up... I am just looking at this project from different angles. I suggest you look at the start of this thread, you will find links to the original motors and others looks at the design.

Cheers