Hi Danny,

That is a great question and yes, there can be systems within systems.

If there is a battery powered toy boat on a lake...the battery power part of the system is a closed loop. If the boat has a sail on it, any wind input would be part of an open system. So what is it...an open or closed system? Both. It depends on what part you're looking at or how big of a whole system do you want to see it as.

Even the closed loop battery powered motor 'may' be considered open to some degree...perhaps gravity is different in day and night (which it is)...but the downward push of the aetheric gravity push on the wire may cause the battery circuit to be stronger or weaker. Another system in a system. A closed system in a larger open system.

This concept could be nit-picked to death but it is something to think about.

At least getting the basic concept of the difference is very profound in my opinion and that is why I stressed it so much in the book. I think one of the most powerful things Tom Bearden ever taught besides all the technical details of machines, etc... is the simple concept of open vs closed systems.

I think you might see that from some of the simple analogies of open systems in the book that after reading that explanation that it is practically common sense that any opens system can easily output more than we have to put into the system. It is just that this distinction is not happily pointed out in school or about anywhere else. The closest that these concepts seem to come to the public's awareness is amongst those who are tinkering with "free energy" systems and they learn about it this way.

Anything physical is sustaining itself by its open interaction with aether in its local environment. Are we made by it or just powered by it? At the most fundamental level of what all sub-atomic "particles" are composed of, I would say that we are made of the aether.