I never tried with my own cap pulsers or otherwise.

About 6 years ago I did hold on to the output of my machines but did not experience the same as I did at John's shop. However, I was the only thing on the output and I didn't hold onto the output as it was going to batts like at John's.

I don't know how much was placebo or what...I didn't have anything in mind as to what to expect. I was just very wired for a couple days without getting tired or hungry.