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Old 04-24-2007, 08:28 PM
Joehan Joehan is offline
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Houston we have a problem

@Peter,

it seems some wrong interpretation is circling around. The information from the Bob Teal interview made it worse and many are thinking about a simple BEMF recycler. In my opinion it's an addon and not the main key! It would be nice if you can make a clear statement here which i can forward to the gnosis forum.

Thanx,
Joehan

That's a post from the gn0sis forum
rickfriedrich wrote:
[quote]Peter L's New DVD shows no secrets as advertised. My comments are below these relavent quotes.

John_Bedini wrote:
Quote:
Ted,
snip...
Also in the NEW movie, I built the engine you see running, I did the switching. as Teal's motor was not capable of charging any battery. the circuit you see with teal's drawing is not for storing energy at all. The circuit is a spark suppression for the points. The teal motor is not capable of charging batteries until you use the monopole circuit for recovery.
I'm not going to say anything more. Remember closing down all the fields is not an open system, no recovery possible.
John

Eddie Currentz wrote:
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Two things happened yesterday that have given me pause for thought. I watched Peter Lindeman’s new video on motors, and I hooked up my window motor to the shaft on my monopole to act strictly as a generator.
I found out that this window motor sucks as a generator. Even with all its windings in series it only generates about 8 volts @1000 RPM on an OPEN circuit, and this only after a minute or two. This made me realize that I am not going to get a lot of energy back from this motor no matter how it’s wired.
Peter made an interesting observation, among many, in his presentation when describing the limitations of modern motor design. He observed that with most motors, eliminating or overcoming back EMF is impossible with their current geometry.
This made me start thinking about how much I could expect to get from this motor. As a motor it runs fairly efficiently and produces pretty good torque on the shaft. As a generator it blows.
I’m going to try and build a dynamometer similar to the one peter describes in his video. Then I’m going to start working on getting more power out of this motor for the same input. For me it’s going to be more productive to get a better COP than a self runner.
Now, if anyone has a highly efficient generator design…

Ted
Peter L's New DVD shows no secrets as advertised

I hesitated to post this on this list because I don't want to distract anyone. But for the sake of the truth I had to write this, and John encouraged me to. I also have no personal conflict with Peter, my last visit with him was very good. This email concerns Peter's new DVD, and the credibility of free energy videos, etc.

Chronological Overview:
On my first visit (July 2005) to John's shop Peter was very nice and showed me many of John's machines. At the end he showed me this supposed Teal setup, which now I find out John really built (and not Peter, and it was also not a Teal machine but a Bedini machine). This is the motor shown in Peter's new DVD. I was allowed to film everything in the shop, and take pictures of everything but this setup. This was all hush hush, not for John but Peter everything about it was whispered. I was shown a stack of papers of old patents going back over 100 years, which John shared now that mostly came from him. So I went home wondering if this was the most important thing. I looked up the patents but did not find anything significant; and after a little experimenting went on from there to other more important setups.

The setup was what you saw, but had the hall switching, which may or may not have still been on there in the DVD. In the DVD you see no circuit but you can see 4 or 5 strands coming off of the coil and beside that another clump of strands together, which was a multistrand coil Bedini uses for stage 2 monopoles. These go to several transistors but they are not shown. All you see is a big aluminum heat sink. But the impression you get is that this is a Teal motor, which it is not as I write below.

On my last visit to the shop some weeks back Peter showed up now and then doing his own thing and adding a few comments about this window motor experiment and Mikes setup. He was filming this DVD by himself in the back. He talked to me about various points as you see in the DVD. I wasn't sure of where he was going with all this and didn't have time to get into it.

Not long after this time Aaron starting promoting Teal and this new DVD by Peter. So below you see the progress of the posts and my responses.

My concern below is this, that several things (secrets) are promised and not delivered. Secondly, we have no way of knowing if any secrets are known or if any really even exit. Thirdly, the only significant thing in this DVD is nothing new, but is John's recovery circuit. Fourthly, Teal is made to be the grand savior of the environment and world economy when nothing significant is presented of his work, while it is really John's recovery that has the most significance. Fifthly, the final motor is only theory and no demonstration is given, as well as no demonstration of Teal's motor working or recovering anything. All of this adds up to a big question of what is the purpose of the video? I am forced to say that it is not just bad editing but bad science. I only say this for the cause of truth. I wish I did not have to write this. I just cannot support these claims. Below you will see more details about specific claims in the book. Please correct me if I am wrong in any statements above or below.

Rick

> > > > a1c3m <qiman13@> wrote:
> > > > Hi all, we had to change the web address:
> > > >
> > > > Bob Teal missing interview:
> > > > Energetic Science Ministries | Bob Teal | Magnipulsion
> <http://www.esmhome.org/library/bob-teal/index.html>
> > > > You can now watch this on Youtube right on that page.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Teal discussion forum about Electric Motor Secrets:
> > > > http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/
> <http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/>
> > > >
> > > > Peter Lindemann will be posting some info about his new video release in the next 24 hours.
> > > >
> > > > Take care!
> > > > Aaron

> > --- In Magnetricity@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Magnetricity%40yahoogroups.com>, "a1c3m" <qiman13@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That electromagnetic piston is a pretty cool concept but in Peter's new video, he shows how he eliminated the need for that in a more simplified rotor style. Will be giving more details here:
> > > http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...lectric-motor-
> <http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/271-electric-motor->
> > secrets.html
> > >
> > > --- In Magnetricity@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Magnetricity%40yahoogroups.com>, Rick Friedrich
> > > <rickfriedrich@> wrote:
> > > >
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